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I don't think the police just showed up to kill this war veteran for no apparent reason. Obviously, there is more to this story than is being reported. Maybe we should wait before jumping to conclusions.
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Don't worry the facts will come out at trial...
oh that's right there's not even going to be one.
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Just goes to show that no matter what line of duty or job there are always horrible people. Doesn't matter if they are police officers, military, or doctors etc there are still going to be terrible people in the world.
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I call BS here, and to say that its like the trayvon martin case while providing less than shit for evidence is pretty lame.
Was this pendant magic in that it calls the police, records audio, saves lives, and possible even makes the man sleep better?
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On May 07 2012 05:19 TheGeneralTheoryOf wrote: Don't worry the facts will come out at trial...
oh that's right there's not even going to be one. funny how we have this constitution and laws that dont force defendants to go through a potentially bankrupting trial when there is not even enough evidence to convince a grand jury that the defendant did something wrong under greatly lessened evidentiary burdens.
i'm sure you (and the rest of the people who are upset about no indictment) knew more about the facts than the grand jury though. you are obviously omniscient and knew what evidence the prosecutor would present at trial better than the people the prosecutor actually presented the evidence to.
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On May 07 2012 06:43 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 05:19 TheGeneralTheoryOf wrote: Don't worry the facts will come out at trial...
oh that's right there's not even going to be one. funny how we have this constitution and laws that dont force defendants to go through a potentially bankrupting trial when there is not even enough evidence to convince a grand jury that the defendant did something wrong under greatly lessened evidentiary burdens. i'm sure you (and the rest of the people who are upset about no indictment) knew more about the facts than the grand jury though. you are obviously omniscient and knew what evidence the prosecutor would present at trial better than the people the prosecutor actually presented the evidence to. There's no evidence because the cops can do whatever the fuck they want with it. North America has as backwards ass justice system. A cop basicly has to snitch on another cop with a shit ton of evidence for anything to happen to the police officer.
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On May 07 2012 07:11 BandonBanshee wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 06:43 dAPhREAk wrote:On May 07 2012 05:19 TheGeneralTheoryOf wrote: Don't worry the facts will come out at trial...
oh that's right there's not even going to be one. funny how we have this constitution and laws that dont force defendants to go through a potentially bankrupting trial when there is not even enough evidence to convince a grand jury that the defendant did something wrong under greatly lessened evidentiary burdens. i'm sure you (and the rest of the people who are upset about no indictment) knew more about the facts than the grand jury though. you are obviously omniscient and knew what evidence the prosecutor would present at trial better than the people the prosecutor actually presented the evidence to. There's no evidence because the cops can do whatever the fuck they want with it. North America has as backwards ass justice system. A cop basicly has to snitch on another cop with a shit ton of evidence for anything to happen to the police officer. yep, they sure hid the evidence in this case:
District Attorney Janet DiFiore, who referred to the shooting as a tragedy, said Thursday that the grand jury heard from 42 witnesses, including Police Officer Anthony Carelli, who fired the fatal shots.
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After seeing that video, i am fuming. My blood is boiling. I know this must happen everywhere around the world. Power gives people the false sense of superiority. Argh so angry!
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After skimming through 8 pages so far, I've only seen like four posts saying "calm down, innocent 'till proven guilty, relax and put down the pitch forks".
What's even crazier is that I've known for a while now that many users of TL laugh about how people fall prey to sensationalism, yet when there's a thread like "North Korea to test launch missile" or "The Shooting of Trayvon Martin" or "Student tortured, sues for 20 million", the ignorance and uneducated opinions just pour out like the Daybreak waterfall. It's hypocritical hell.
Then you get the people who don't even live here pretending like they know the justice system or the constituents or the Star Spangled Banner based on Google or Wikipedia, linking BS sources and YouTube videos, because they've seen American TV shows or movies or some other random American media, and throwing words like "constitution" or "amendment" or "patriot act" around, and thinking they know shit like the exact figure of the US debt or exactly how powerful the US Army is. It's just sad.
"There won't even be a case" - like shit, I'm a huge pessimist, and I've had bad run-ins with cops too, and I know how dirty they can get having grown up in Queens (you have NO idea what the term dirty cop means if you've never lived in New York City - lol), but is it the 'cool' thing now to hate on cops? Everyone hates on the "moralfags" and shit? I wonder when the non-conformists start switching to the other side...
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On May 07 2012 07:14 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 07:11 BandonBanshee wrote:On May 07 2012 06:43 dAPhREAk wrote:On May 07 2012 05:19 TheGeneralTheoryOf wrote: Don't worry the facts will come out at trial...
oh that's right there's not even going to be one. funny how we have this constitution and laws that dont force defendants to go through a potentially bankrupting trial when there is not even enough evidence to convince a grand jury that the defendant did something wrong under greatly lessened evidentiary burdens. i'm sure you (and the rest of the people who are upset about no indictment) knew more about the facts than the grand jury though. you are obviously omniscient and knew what evidence the prosecutor would present at trial better than the people the prosecutor actually presented the evidence to. There's no evidence because the cops can do whatever the fuck they want with it. North America has as backwards ass justice system. A cop basicly has to snitch on another cop with a shit ton of evidence for anything to happen to the police officer. yep, they sure hid the evidence in this case: Show nested quote +District Attorney Janet DiFiore, who referred to the shooting as a tragedy, said Thursday that the grand jury heard from 42 witnesses, including Police Officer Anthony Carelli, who fired the fatal shots. Why are you so nieve? You think an honest unbiased investigation is going on right now? Any witnesses who don't corroborate the cops story are going to have their statement thrown out. The department will do anything and everything to put the blame somewhere else or come up with some bogus self defense story. Your telling me multiple officers cant detain a 68 year old man without lethal force? You must be family or something the way your defending these guys.
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On May 07 2012 07:59 BandonBanshee wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 07:14 dAPhREAk wrote:On May 07 2012 07:11 BandonBanshee wrote:On May 07 2012 06:43 dAPhREAk wrote:On May 07 2012 05:19 TheGeneralTheoryOf wrote: Don't worry the facts will come out at trial...
oh that's right there's not even going to be one. funny how we have this constitution and laws that dont force defendants to go through a potentially bankrupting trial when there is not even enough evidence to convince a grand jury that the defendant did something wrong under greatly lessened evidentiary burdens. i'm sure you (and the rest of the people who are upset about no indictment) knew more about the facts than the grand jury though. you are obviously omniscient and knew what evidence the prosecutor would present at trial better than the people the prosecutor actually presented the evidence to. There's no evidence because the cops can do whatever the fuck they want with it. North America has as backwards ass justice system. A cop basicly has to snitch on another cop with a shit ton of evidence for anything to happen to the police officer. yep, they sure hid the evidence in this case: District Attorney Janet DiFiore, who referred to the shooting as a tragedy, said Thursday that the grand jury heard from 42 witnesses, including Police Officer Anthony Carelli, who fired the fatal shots. Why are you so nieve? You think an honest unbiased investigation is going on right now? Any witnesses who don't corroborate the cops story are going to have their statement thrown out. The department will do anything and everything to put the blame somewhere else or come up with some bogus self defense story. Your telling me multiple officers cant detain a 68 year old man without lethal force? You must be family or something the way your defending these guys. not defending them. i dont know what happened, so i dont make uneducated opinions about whether they are guilty or not. i leave that up to the justice system, including grand juries. when i read posts like yours, i say "bullshit" because you have no basis for your statements other than your own prejudice.
edit: and please, when you want to insult someone's intelligence and call them naive, at least do it without having multiple spelling and grammar errors in your insult. it just makes you look silly.
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On May 07 2012 08:02 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 07:59 BandonBanshee wrote:On May 07 2012 07:14 dAPhREAk wrote:On May 07 2012 07:11 BandonBanshee wrote:On May 07 2012 06:43 dAPhREAk wrote:On May 07 2012 05:19 TheGeneralTheoryOf wrote: Don't worry the facts will come out at trial...
oh that's right there's not even going to be one. funny how we have this constitution and laws that dont force defendants to go through a potentially bankrupting trial when there is not even enough evidence to convince a grand jury that the defendant did something wrong under greatly lessened evidentiary burdens. i'm sure you (and the rest of the people who are upset about no indictment) knew more about the facts than the grand jury though. you are obviously omniscient and knew what evidence the prosecutor would present at trial better than the people the prosecutor actually presented the evidence to. There's no evidence because the cops can do whatever the fuck they want with it. North America has as backwards ass justice system. A cop basicly has to snitch on another cop with a shit ton of evidence for anything to happen to the police officer. yep, they sure hid the evidence in this case: District Attorney Janet DiFiore, who referred to the shooting as a tragedy, said Thursday that the grand jury heard from 42 witnesses, including Police Officer Anthony Carelli, who fired the fatal shots. Why are you so nieve? You think an honest unbiased investigation is going on right now? Any witnesses who don't corroborate the cops story are going to have their statement thrown out. The department will do anything and everything to put the blame somewhere else or come up with some bogus self defense story. Your telling me multiple officers cant detain a 68 year old man without lethal force? You must be family or something the way your defending these guys. not defending them. i dont know what happened, so i dont make uneducated opinions about whether they are guilty or not. i leave that up to the justice system, including grand juries. when i read posts like yours, i say "bullshit" because you have no basis for your statements other than your own prejudice. edit: and please, when you want to insult someone's intelligence and call them naive, at least do it without having multiple spelling and grammar errors in your insult. it just makes you look silly. Wow you seem too robotic to even be human. Keep placing your faith in a justice system that has failed us multiple times in the same situation. I'm envious of you, the world you live in seems way nicer then reality.
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On May 07 2012 06:43 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 05:19 TheGeneralTheoryOf wrote: Don't worry the facts will come out at trial...
oh that's right there's not even going to be one. funny how we have this constitution and laws that dont force defendants to go through a potentially bankrupting trial when there is not even enough evidence to convince a grand jury that the defendant did something wrong under greatly lessened evidentiary burdens. i'm sure you (and the rest of the people who are upset about no indictment) knew more about the facts than the grand jury though. you are obviously omniscient and knew what evidence the prosecutor would present at trial better than the people the prosecutor actually presented the evidence to. yeah bro, we have a 100% transparent legal system, and cops always get fair trials.
how delusional are you?
On May 07 2012 07:14 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 07:11 BandonBanshee wrote:On May 07 2012 06:43 dAPhREAk wrote:On May 07 2012 05:19 TheGeneralTheoryOf wrote: Don't worry the facts will come out at trial...
oh that's right there's not even going to be one. funny how we have this constitution and laws that dont force defendants to go through a potentially bankrupting trial when there is not even enough evidence to convince a grand jury that the defendant did something wrong under greatly lessened evidentiary burdens. i'm sure you (and the rest of the people who are upset about no indictment) knew more about the facts than the grand jury though. you are obviously omniscient and knew what evidence the prosecutor would present at trial better than the people the prosecutor actually presented the evidence to. There's no evidence because the cops can do whatever the fuck they want with it. North America has as backwards ass justice system. A cop basicly has to snitch on another cop with a shit ton of evidence for anything to happen to the police officer. yep, they sure hid the evidence in this case: Show nested quote +District Attorney Janet DiFiore, who referred to the shooting as a tragedy, said Thursday that the grand jury heard from 42 witnesses, including Police Officer Anthony Carelli, who fired the fatal shots. find me one police officer who snitched on another. i'll mail you $20.
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On May 07 2012 08:02 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 07:59 BandonBanshee wrote:On May 07 2012 07:14 dAPhREAk wrote:On May 07 2012 07:11 BandonBanshee wrote:On May 07 2012 06:43 dAPhREAk wrote:On May 07 2012 05:19 TheGeneralTheoryOf wrote: Don't worry the facts will come out at trial...
oh that's right there's not even going to be one. funny how we have this constitution and laws that dont force defendants to go through a potentially bankrupting trial when there is not even enough evidence to convince a grand jury that the defendant did something wrong under greatly lessened evidentiary burdens. i'm sure you (and the rest of the people who are upset about no indictment) knew more about the facts than the grand jury though. you are obviously omniscient and knew what evidence the prosecutor would present at trial better than the people the prosecutor actually presented the evidence to. There's no evidence because the cops can do whatever the fuck they want with it. North America has as backwards ass justice system. A cop basicly has to snitch on another cop with a shit ton of evidence for anything to happen to the police officer. yep, they sure hid the evidence in this case: District Attorney Janet DiFiore, who referred to the shooting as a tragedy, said Thursday that the grand jury heard from 42 witnesses, including Police Officer Anthony Carelli, who fired the fatal shots. Why are you so nieve? You think an honest unbiased investigation is going on right now? Any witnesses who don't corroborate the cops story are going to have their statement thrown out. The department will do anything and everything to put the blame somewhere else or come up with some bogus self defense story. Your telling me multiple officers cant detain a 68 year old man without lethal force? You must be family or something the way your defending these guys. not defending them. i dont know what happened, so i dont make uneducated opinions about whether they are guilty or not. i leave that up to the justice system, including grand juries. when i read posts like yours, i say "bullshit" because you have no basis for your statements other than your own prejudice. edit: and please, when you want to insult someone's intelligence and call them naive, at least do it without having multiple spelling and grammar errors in your insult. it just makes you look silly.
Your faith is well placed. No one in the justice system has any external incentives other than to see law prevail. [/sarcasm]
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On May 07 2012 08:12 BandonBanshee wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 08:02 dAPhREAk wrote:On May 07 2012 07:59 BandonBanshee wrote:On May 07 2012 07:14 dAPhREAk wrote:On May 07 2012 07:11 BandonBanshee wrote:On May 07 2012 06:43 dAPhREAk wrote:On May 07 2012 05:19 TheGeneralTheoryOf wrote: Don't worry the facts will come out at trial...
oh that's right there's not even going to be one. funny how we have this constitution and laws that dont force defendants to go through a potentially bankrupting trial when there is not even enough evidence to convince a grand jury that the defendant did something wrong under greatly lessened evidentiary burdens. i'm sure you (and the rest of the people who are upset about no indictment) knew more about the facts than the grand jury though. you are obviously omniscient and knew what evidence the prosecutor would present at trial better than the people the prosecutor actually presented the evidence to. There's no evidence because the cops can do whatever the fuck they want with it. North America has as backwards ass justice system. A cop basicly has to snitch on another cop with a shit ton of evidence for anything to happen to the police officer. yep, they sure hid the evidence in this case: District Attorney Janet DiFiore, who referred to the shooting as a tragedy, said Thursday that the grand jury heard from 42 witnesses, including Police Officer Anthony Carelli, who fired the fatal shots. Why are you so nieve? You think an honest unbiased investigation is going on right now? Any witnesses who don't corroborate the cops story are going to have their statement thrown out. The department will do anything and everything to put the blame somewhere else or come up with some bogus self defense story. Your telling me multiple officers cant detain a 68 year old man without lethal force? You must be family or something the way your defending these guys. not defending them. i dont know what happened, so i dont make uneducated opinions about whether they are guilty or not. i leave that up to the justice system, including grand juries. when i read posts like yours, i say "bullshit" because you have no basis for your statements other than your own prejudice. edit: and please, when you want to insult someone's intelligence and call them naive, at least do it without having multiple spelling and grammar errors in your insult. it just makes you look silly. Wow you seem too robotic to even be human. Keep placing your faith in a justice system that has failed us multiple times in the same situation. I'm envious of you, the world you live in seems way nicer then reality. shall we return to lynching and vigilantism?
On May 07 2012 08:18 Tyrant0 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 08:02 dAPhREAk wrote:On May 07 2012 07:59 BandonBanshee wrote:On May 07 2012 07:14 dAPhREAk wrote:On May 07 2012 07:11 BandonBanshee wrote:On May 07 2012 06:43 dAPhREAk wrote:On May 07 2012 05:19 TheGeneralTheoryOf wrote: Don't worry the facts will come out at trial...
oh that's right there's not even going to be one. funny how we have this constitution and laws that dont force defendants to go through a potentially bankrupting trial when there is not even enough evidence to convince a grand jury that the defendant did something wrong under greatly lessened evidentiary burdens. i'm sure you (and the rest of the people who are upset about no indictment) knew more about the facts than the grand jury though. you are obviously omniscient and knew what evidence the prosecutor would present at trial better than the people the prosecutor actually presented the evidence to. There's no evidence because the cops can do whatever the fuck they want with it. North America has as backwards ass justice system. A cop basicly has to snitch on another cop with a shit ton of evidence for anything to happen to the police officer. yep, they sure hid the evidence in this case: District Attorney Janet DiFiore, who referred to the shooting as a tragedy, said Thursday that the grand jury heard from 42 witnesses, including Police Officer Anthony Carelli, who fired the fatal shots. Why are you so nieve? You think an honest unbiased investigation is going on right now? Any witnesses who don't corroborate the cops story are going to have their statement thrown out. The department will do anything and everything to put the blame somewhere else or come up with some bogus self defense story. Your telling me multiple officers cant detain a 68 year old man without lethal force? You must be family or something the way your defending these guys. not defending them. i dont know what happened, so i dont make uneducated opinions about whether they are guilty or not. i leave that up to the justice system, including grand juries. when i read posts like yours, i say "bullshit" because you have no basis for your statements other than your own prejudice. edit: and please, when you want to insult someone's intelligence and call them naive, at least do it without having multiple spelling and grammar errors in your insult. it just makes you look silly. Your faith is well placed. No one in the justice system has any external incentives other than to see law prevail. [/sarcasm] it certainly has its flaws. yet, i choose to trust it more than uninformed opinions in this forum.
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Did we not learn our lesson to wait until the evidence is all out in the open with the Martin case?
Guess not..
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On May 07 2012 05:16 Obamanation666 wrote: I don't think the police just showed up to kill this war veteran for no apparent reason. Obviously, there is more to this story than is being reported. Maybe we should wait before jumping to conclusions.
This man beat me to my point =\
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On May 07 2012 08:21 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 08:12 BandonBanshee wrote:On May 07 2012 08:02 dAPhREAk wrote:On May 07 2012 07:59 BandonBanshee wrote:On May 07 2012 07:14 dAPhREAk wrote:On May 07 2012 07:11 BandonBanshee wrote:On May 07 2012 06:43 dAPhREAk wrote:On May 07 2012 05:19 TheGeneralTheoryOf wrote: Don't worry the facts will come out at trial...
oh that's right there's not even going to be one. funny how we have this constitution and laws that dont force defendants to go through a potentially bankrupting trial when there is not even enough evidence to convince a grand jury that the defendant did something wrong under greatly lessened evidentiary burdens. i'm sure you (and the rest of the people who are upset about no indictment) knew more about the facts than the grand jury though. you are obviously omniscient and knew what evidence the prosecutor would present at trial better than the people the prosecutor actually presented the evidence to. There's no evidence because the cops can do whatever the fuck they want with it. North America has as backwards ass justice system. A cop basicly has to snitch on another cop with a shit ton of evidence for anything to happen to the police officer. yep, they sure hid the evidence in this case: District Attorney Janet DiFiore, who referred to the shooting as a tragedy, said Thursday that the grand jury heard from 42 witnesses, including Police Officer Anthony Carelli, who fired the fatal shots. Why are you so nieve? You think an honest unbiased investigation is going on right now? Any witnesses who don't corroborate the cops story are going to have their statement thrown out. The department will do anything and everything to put the blame somewhere else or come up with some bogus self defense story. Your telling me multiple officers cant detain a 68 year old man without lethal force? You must be family or something the way your defending these guys. not defending them. i dont know what happened, so i dont make uneducated opinions about whether they are guilty or not. i leave that up to the justice system, including grand juries. when i read posts like yours, i say "bullshit" because you have no basis for your statements other than your own prejudice. edit: and please, when you want to insult someone's intelligence and call them naive, at least do it without having multiple spelling and grammar errors in your insult. it just makes you look silly. Wow you seem too robotic to even be human. Keep placing your faith in a justice system that has failed us multiple times in the same situation. I'm envious of you, the world you live in seems way nicer then reality. shall we return to lynching and vigilantism? Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 08:18 Tyrant0 wrote:On May 07 2012 08:02 dAPhREAk wrote:On May 07 2012 07:59 BandonBanshee wrote:On May 07 2012 07:14 dAPhREAk wrote:On May 07 2012 07:11 BandonBanshee wrote:On May 07 2012 06:43 dAPhREAk wrote:On May 07 2012 05:19 TheGeneralTheoryOf wrote: Don't worry the facts will come out at trial...
oh that's right there's not even going to be one. funny how we have this constitution and laws that dont force defendants to go through a potentially bankrupting trial when there is not even enough evidence to convince a grand jury that the defendant did something wrong under greatly lessened evidentiary burdens. i'm sure you (and the rest of the people who are upset about no indictment) knew more about the facts than the grand jury though. you are obviously omniscient and knew what evidence the prosecutor would present at trial better than the people the prosecutor actually presented the evidence to. There's no evidence because the cops can do whatever the fuck they want with it. North America has as backwards ass justice system. A cop basicly has to snitch on another cop with a shit ton of evidence for anything to happen to the police officer. yep, they sure hid the evidence in this case: District Attorney Janet DiFiore, who referred to the shooting as a tragedy, said Thursday that the grand jury heard from 42 witnesses, including Police Officer Anthony Carelli, who fired the fatal shots. Why are you so nieve? You think an honest unbiased investigation is going on right now? Any witnesses who don't corroborate the cops story are going to have their statement thrown out. The department will do anything and everything to put the blame somewhere else or come up with some bogus self defense story. Your telling me multiple officers cant detain a 68 year old man without lethal force? You must be family or something the way your defending these guys. not defending them. i dont know what happened, so i dont make uneducated opinions about whether they are guilty or not. i leave that up to the justice system, including grand juries. when i read posts like yours, i say "bullshit" because you have no basis for your statements other than your own prejudice. edit: and please, when you want to insult someone's intelligence and call them naive, at least do it without having multiple spelling and grammar errors in your insult. it just makes you look silly. Your faith is well placed. No one in the justice system has any external incentives other than to see law prevail. [/sarcasm] it certainly has its flaws. yet, i choose to trust it more than uninformed opinions in this forum.
Skepticism is what (should) keep law enforcement and our legal system honest. Everyone has a right to ask questions, and they're simply waiting to be answered as more facts come out. I certainly don't think that involves endorsing (a strawman) lynching and vigilante justice.
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Ugh, I really do expect too much from you guys sometimes. I'm glad there are a few people that are rational and don't fall prey to the immediately-jump-to-conclusions knee-jerk-reactionary style news that we get spoon fed nowadays.
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