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For all you guys saying 500 plus hours is way to much and it should be boring for me by now.
NO! here is why.
Every single blizzard game has been made to be timeless, think about it... Its their signature game designing move. They made this game so we could play it constantly... again... again... and again... Doing raids, killing bosses... Do you KNOW how much time I spent on d2?
There is nothing thats like making me feel the feel when I go to sleep "awww, I wana get a better shoulders! or omg I can't wait till schools over so I can get home and play" That is almost non-existant...
People saying I spent 40 hours and I'm pleased... Sure makes sence for a bioware game... But as a blizzard game, this is just bad...
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Do I think that D3 is perfect? Far from it. Do I think it's bad? Far from it.
I believe a ton of people bought D3 expecting a game for the ages that would last a decade of 6 hours a day of playing... That's unrealistic, regardless of what game/company/franchise you're talking about. I loved D2. I played off and on every so often; finished it on Hell with all the classes, although I never had any characters above level 58.
When I bought D3, I was expecting pretty much the same as D2 with better graphics. I was not disappointed... then again, I wasn't expecting a life altering experience. I also realize that my glasses were quite rosy. I actually went back and played some D2 the other day (after having done D3) and it really made me realize how many improvements D3 brought that make it more fun.
Yeah, it also brought some flaws, particularly in the Inferno portion of the game... but the main fun of the game for me was always the trip from level 1 to beating Diablo/Baal on the hardest difficulty setting; it wasn't mindlessly grinding to 99, or trading in chat channels (ugh, so boring/annoying) or mindlessly running bosses for the 1580th time in the hopes of getting the drop you wanted.
My usual barometer for how pleased I am with a game is at least an hour hour of entertainment for every dollar spent (and I don't just mean playing it while bored like the first 20 hours of FFXIII, for example). Anyway, I've gotten way more than that already, so I can't really be disappointed or mad.
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On July 12 2012 04:46 Mr.Bimbles wrote: For all you guys saying 500 plus hours is way to much and it should be boring for me by now.
NO! here is why.
Every single blizzard game has been made to be timeless, think about it... Its their signature game designing move. They made this game so we could play it constantly... again... again... and again... Doing raids, killing bosses... Do you KNOW how much time I spent on d2?
There is nothing thats like making me feel the feel when I go to sleep "awww, I wana get a better shoulders! or omg I can't wait till schools over so I can get home and play" That is almost non-existant...
People saying I spent 40 hours and I'm pleased... Sure makes sence for a bioware game... But as a blizzard game, this is just bad... 500 hours in 2 months, that's over 8 hours a day, about as long as a full-time job. If you keep playing one single game for so long, you'll obviously get burned out. All those Blizzard games that you played previously, I bet you never came close to 500 hours in the first 2 months after release.
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500+ hours is a lot of time, i think you got your moneys worth with the avg of a game being like 10-15 hours these days. But since you spent money on a new computer and stuff, why not use it to play other games? I was really bored of D3 aswell and actually got it refunded to me, but I am not really complaining about it and making posts on TL about why I didn't like it.
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It's not bad, just boring if u play too much per day.
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On July 12 2012 10:30 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 04:46 Mr.Bimbles wrote: For all you guys saying 500 plus hours is way to much and it should be boring for me by now.
NO! here is why.
Every single blizzard game has been made to be timeless, think about it... Its their signature game designing move. They made this game so we could play it constantly... again... again... and again... Doing raids, killing bosses... Do you KNOW how much time I spent on d2?
There is nothing thats like making me feel the feel when I go to sleep "awww, I wana get a better shoulders! or omg I can't wait till schools over so I can get home and play" That is almost non-existant...
People saying I spent 40 hours and I'm pleased... Sure makes sence for a bioware game... But as a blizzard game, this is just bad... 500 hours in 2 months, that's over 8 hours a day, about as long as a full-time job. If you keep playing one single game for so long, you'll obviously get burned out. All those Blizzard games that you played previously, I bet you never came close to 500 hours in the first 2 months after release. Were you not around for the SC2 release or something?
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Gentlemen, this is the new D3 end-game: Rant posts of legendary length.
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its not bad for a game with no subscription fee. Even though i refuse to pay another subscription to play a game as games just arnt worth it now of days. I got my moneys worth i guess even though i got perma banned on bnet forums for complaining about how bad it is. lol
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You went off!!! Kudos to you sir, because Blizzard spent so many damn years making a big pile of shit.
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On July 12 2012 04:46 Mr.Bimbles wrote: For all you guys saying 500 plus hours is way to much and it should be boring for me by now.
NO! here is why.
Every single blizzard game has been made to be timeless, think about it... Its their signature game designing move. They made this game so we could play it constantly... again... again... and again... Doing raids, killing bosses... Do you KNOW how much time I spent on d2?
There is nothing thats like making me feel the feel when I go to sleep "awww, I wana get a better shoulders! or omg I can't wait till schools over so I can get home and play" That is almost non-existant...
People saying I spent 40 hours and I'm pleased... Sure makes sence for a bioware game... But as a blizzard game, this is just bad...
So because Blizzard has a good track record, it comes back to bite them. Blizzard needs to make a game 100x better than a bioware game, yet still charge the same amount, in order for it to be called good, else its utter trash? It's not ok for a 60 dollar game to only be enjoyed for up to 100 or so hours just because blizzard made it? I'm ok with people pointing out issues with a game, so long as its somewhat constructive and thought out, but this is straight up whine. It doesn't have this, doesn't have that.... blizzard never said they here going to have those things. The development of this game wasn't shrouded by mystery in any form. You should've known what to expect at purchase, you should've figured out if you truly enjoy the game at the end of normal... It's just a game. You don't have to spend hundreds of hours attempting to like it. There is no reason to. If you're not having fun then stop playing it. It's just a game. It's not Blizzards or the D3 developers fault you wasted your time. Granted you bought a new comp just for this game, its just a sunk cost fallacy. I read that analogy that its like trying to watch a film and trying to appreciate it, which makes sense, but due to the monotonous nature of D3, you don't need hundreds of hours to figure it out. If you don't know about the sunk cost fallacy I feel bad for you, google it up and maybe you get along with your life.
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On July 12 2012 10:55 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 10:30 Heh_ wrote:On July 12 2012 04:46 Mr.Bimbles wrote: For all you guys saying 500 plus hours is way to much and it should be boring for me by now.
NO! here is why.
Every single blizzard game has been made to be timeless, think about it... Its their signature game designing move. They made this game so we could play it constantly... again... again... and again... Doing raids, killing bosses... Do you KNOW how much time I spent on d2?
There is nothing thats like making me feel the feel when I go to sleep "awww, I wana get a better shoulders! or omg I can't wait till schools over so I can get home and play" That is almost non-existant...
People saying I spent 40 hours and I'm pleased... Sure makes sence for a bioware game... But as a blizzard game, this is just bad... 500 hours in 2 months, that's over 8 hours a day, about as long as a full-time job. If you keep playing one single game for so long, you'll obviously get burned out. All those Blizzard games that you played previously, I bet you never came close to 500 hours in the first 2 months after release. Were you not around for the SC2 release or something? Unless you play vs AI for 500 hours...
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I beat the game today. I was undergeared for it, but I beat the game.
And that basically summarizes my attitude towards D3. I would never say I beat Diablo 2, or Guild Wars, or Titan Quest (all of which I've played recently in the last 2 years). But everything in Diablo 3 basically told me that Inferno was all that mattered, and the gear I was getting was solely for the purpose of beating Diablo 3.
And then it told me that it would be faster to zerg my way through Act 3 and Act 4 than it would be to actually get the gear necessary to do it "properly". And now that I've beaten Inferno...there's really nothing else I feel like doing in the game.
And the worst part is, it doesn't feel like an accomplishment. Killing Diablo in Inferno was basically my way of closing the book, putting it down and choosing never to touch it again.
So yeah, that's it then. I beat the game.
On July 12 2012 11:32 kastoob wrote: So because Blizzard has a good track record, it comes back to bite them. Blizzard needs to make a game 100x better than a bioware game, yet still charge the same amount, in order for it to be called good, else its utter trash? It's not ok for a 60 dollar game to only be enjoyed for up to 100 or so hours just because blizzard made it? People need to understand that $60 is a lot for a PC game nowadays, considering Steam is giving 75% sales on a regular basis. There are very, very few games that I would ever buy on release day, and Blizzard used to be a company that would warrant immediate purchase.
This isn't just some company putting out a mediocre game. This is a company losing the years and years of trust and good faith that it earned from its customers. Diablo 3 pre-sold record numbers of copies because everyone "knew" it would be an all-time classic. And they were wrong.
Diablo 3 will eventually smooth itself out and become a decent game for a $30 purchase in several months. But Blizzard basically lost its reputation as one of the few companies that wouldn't release a game until it was awesome and it was ready. And that reputation was worth record pre-sales.
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Dude i played 50 hours and got 15$ back, this game was awesome.
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On July 12 2012 11:32 kastoob wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 04:46 Mr.Bimbles wrote: For all you guys saying 500 plus hours is way to much and it should be boring for me by now.
NO! here is why.
Every single blizzard game has been made to be timeless, think about it... Its their signature game designing move. They made this game so we could play it constantly... again... again... and again... Doing raids, killing bosses... Do you KNOW how much time I spent on d2?
There is nothing thats like making me feel the feel when I go to sleep "awww, I wana get a better shoulders! or omg I can't wait till schools over so I can get home and play" That is almost non-existant...
People saying I spent 40 hours and I'm pleased... Sure makes sence for a bioware game... But as a blizzard game, this is just bad... So because Blizzard has a good track record, it comes back to bite them. Blizzard needs to make a game 100x better than a bioware game, yet still charge the same amount, in order for it to be called good, else its utter trash? It's not ok for a 60 dollar game to only be enjoyed for up to 100 or so hours just because blizzard made it? I'm ok with people pointing out issues with a game, so long as its somewhat constructive and thought out, but this is straight up whine. It doesn't have this, doesn't have that.... blizzard never said they here going to have those things. The development of this game wasn't shrouded by mystery in any form. You should've known what to expect at purchase, you should've figured out if you truly enjoy the game at the end of normal... It's just a game. You don't have to spend hundreds of hours attempting to like it. There is no reason to. If you're not having fun then stop playing it. It's just a game. It's not Blizzards or the D3 developers fault you wasted your time. Granted you bought a new comp just for this game, its just a sunk cost fallacy. I read that analogy that its like trying to watch a film and trying to appreciate it, which makes sense, but due to the monotonous nature of D3, you don't need hundreds of hours to figure it out. If you don't know about the sunk cost fallacy I feel bad for you, google it up and maybe you get along with your life.
"So because Blizzard has a good track record, it comes back to bite them" No its because they commercialized diablo 3 and made it look like the other games they made... Said it would be a game to play again and again... A game with replay value... A game that would re-create the environment just so you could play it again and again... Its because they promised to much, so.... so much. They just didn't deliver...
Lets put up an example, you buy a piece of gum thats said that the flavour lasts for half an hour and its really expensive... You buy it just to figure out it lasts 10 minutes, you think it tastes better then most other gums but that doesn't justify the fact that. It didn't last as long as it was said too, so even though you ate some gum that tasted good, you're still pissed as hell because you paid a lot for it and it didn't "keep its end"...
"You don't have to spend hundreds of hours attempting to like it. There is no reason to."
Years of fantasising and waiting, seems like a good enough reason to for it... Besides when the beta came out, I though the game was going to be so awesome...
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+ Show Spoiler +On July 12 2012 05:40 psychopat wrote: Do I think that D3 is perfect? Far from it. Do I think it's bad? Far from it.
I believe a ton of people bought D3 expecting a game for the ages that would last a decade of 6 hours a day of playing... That's unrealistic, regardless of what game/company/franchise you're talking about. I loved D2. I played off and on every so often; finished it on Hell with all the classes, although I never had any characters above level 58.
When I bought D3, I was expecting pretty much the same as D2 with better graphics. I was not disappointed... then again, I wasn't expecting a life altering experience. I also realize that my glasses were quite rosy. I actually went back and played some D2 the other day (after having done D3) and it really made me realize how many improvements D3 brought that make it more fun.
Yeah, it also brought some flaws, particularly in the Inferno portion of the game... but the main fun of the game for me was always the trip from level 1 to beating Diablo/Baal on the hardest difficulty setting; it wasn't mindlessly grinding to 99, or trading in chat channels (ugh, so boring/annoying) or mindlessly running bosses for the 1580th time in the hopes of getting the drop you wanted.
My usual barometer for how pleased I am with a game is at least an hour hour of entertainment for every dollar spent (and I don't just mean playing it while bored like the first 20 hours of FFXIII, for example). Anyway, I've gotten way more than that already, so I can't really be disappointed or mad. You never got a character over level 58? What? It took like 2 hours to get to lvl 70 in d2 . . . .
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On July 12 2012 12:36 RabidSeagull wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 12 2012 05:40 psychopat wrote: Do I think that D3 is perfect? Far from it. Do I think it's bad? Far from it.
I believe a ton of people bought D3 expecting a game for the ages that would last a decade of 6 hours a day of playing... That's unrealistic, regardless of what game/company/franchise you're talking about. I loved D2. I played off and on every so often; finished it on Hell with all the classes, although I never had any characters above level 58.
When I bought D3, I was expecting pretty much the same as D2 with better graphics. I was not disappointed... then again, I wasn't expecting a life altering experience. I also realize that my glasses were quite rosy. I actually went back and played some D2 the other day (after having done D3) and it really made me realize how many improvements D3 brought that make it more fun.
Yeah, it also brought some flaws, particularly in the Inferno portion of the game... but the main fun of the game for me was always the trip from level 1 to beating Diablo/Baal on the hardest difficulty setting; it wasn't mindlessly grinding to 99, or trading in chat channels (ugh, so boring/annoying) or mindlessly running bosses for the 1580th time in the hopes of getting the drop you wanted.
My usual barometer for how pleased I am with a game is at least an hour hour of entertainment for every dollar spent (and I don't just mean playing it while bored like the first 20 hours of FFXIII, for example). Anyway, I've gotten way more than that already, so I can't really be disappointed or mad. You never got a character over level 58? What? It took like 2 hours to get to lvl 70 in d2 . . . . Yeah, from powerleveling. IF you played legit it'l probably take 20 hours.
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+10000 to you. Omg i feel the same!! Many of my friends (and my girlfriend too) where so hyped about D3 that i buy the game (i played the beta and i dont really like it from the beginning), so after 2 weeks of playing, i just turned to train sc2 again, my friends invest a lot in their equipments (hopefully my pc was good enough before), so with the pain of my heart im SO, SO agree with you... its so horrible that money its before all in this wrenched world... millions of dollars in marketing and the development was so poor.
I hope many people like you started to express his toughts and feelings and maybe blizzard could make a STRONG change in his development department.
SC2 needs A LOT OF WORK too.
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On July 12 2012 12:36 RabidSeagull wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 12 2012 05:40 psychopat wrote: Do I think that D3 is perfect? Far from it. Do I think it's bad? Far from it.
I believe a ton of people bought D3 expecting a game for the ages that would last a decade of 6 hours a day of playing... That's unrealistic, regardless of what game/company/franchise you're talking about. I loved D2. I played off and on every so often; finished it on Hell with all the classes, although I never had any characters above level 58.
When I bought D3, I was expecting pretty much the same as D2 with better graphics. I was not disappointed... then again, I wasn't expecting a life altering experience. I also realize that my glasses were quite rosy. I actually went back and played some D2 the other day (after having done D3) and it really made me realize how many improvements D3 brought that make it more fun.
Yeah, it also brought some flaws, particularly in the Inferno portion of the game... but the main fun of the game for me was always the trip from level 1 to beating Diablo/Baal on the hardest difficulty setting; it wasn't mindlessly grinding to 99, or trading in chat channels (ugh, so boring/annoying) or mindlessly running bosses for the 1580th time in the hopes of getting the drop you wanted.
My usual barometer for how pleased I am with a game is at least an hour hour of entertainment for every dollar spent (and I don't just mean playing it while bored like the first 20 hours of FFXIII, for example). Anyway, I've gotten way more than that already, so I can't really be disappointed or mad. You never got a character over level 58? What? It took like 2 hours to get to lvl 70 in d2 . . . . Not if you actually played the game... 58 is the highest I wound up on any character because that's all that was needed to kill literally every monster in every single area of the game on your way through it. 58 is actually the one I did in single player, on /players 8. Anything more is people doing repetitive runs, using trainers or getting rushed by friends... I preferred to actually play the game instead of looking for ways to get around it.
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Haha you fucking rule man. Great post.
The game is shit, but I have an ocd thing I guess and will try to get a little stronger. Honestly when I get another 20k dps and 100 AR I'll probably be about time to wrap this shit up.
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