[Champion] Yorick - Page 14
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On March 14 2012 14:45 De4ngus wrote: i dont like tear on yorick anymore. chalice or glacial shroud much better ^^ Cept they don't give you offensive stats. Manamune makes him actually do damage. If you want to be all tanky never die spam ghouls that's fine and all, but if you're gonna get frozen heart/bv anyways why not get a manamune? | ||
ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On March 14 2012 16:14 Zdrastochye wrote: Cept they don't give you offensive stats. Manamune makes him actually do damage. If you want to be all tanky never die spam ghouls that's fine and all, but if you're gonna get frozen heart/bv anyways why not get a manamune? manamune doesnt give that much dmg, tbh. I really like tear, so I usually end up getting it on yorick anyways, but it's not for the dmg. If there were a defensive tear item, I would take it in a heartbeat | ||
Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
Just Locus-Chains-Pulse at level 4 takes out a huge amount of health, and even with E at 3 I can't sustain. | ||
barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On March 20 2012 11:24 Praetorial wrote: Bump. Is it just me, or does Xerath hardcounter Yorick top lane(I know, Xerath top lane, I'm not 30 yet)? Just Locus-Chains-Pulse at level 4 takes out a huge amount of health, and even with E at 3 I can't sustain. there are a couple of ap champs that just trash all melee champs. kennen and swain certainly number among them, and wouldn't be surprised if xerath did too. 100% certain there are some more but no1 is really interested in deviating from standard AP mids. | ||
anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
On March 15 2012 03:44 barbsq wrote: manamune doesnt give that much dmg, tbh. I really like tear, so I usually end up getting it on yorick anyways, but it's not for the dmg. If there were a defensive tear item, I would take it in a heartbeat Since Yorick gets FH and veil as defensive items he should have like 3.5k mana. With manamune that's like 20+(0.02*3.5k)=90AD. That's pretty decent. | ||
broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
A question about his core item, Manamune If I max the passive on Tear and I turn the item into Manamune, will the maxed passive transfer over to Manamune? | ||
NpG)Explosive
France994 Posts
On April 13 2012 15:49 broz0rs wrote: A question about his core item, Manamune If I max the passive on Tear and I turn the item into Manamune, will the maxed passive transfer over to Manamune? Yes, you keep all your stacks when you turn upgrade the tear. | ||
koreasilver
9109 Posts
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On April 14 2012 02:16 koreasilver wrote: I think Manamune is a great item on Yorick but a mistake I've been seeing on a lot of Yoricks during this free week is that they rush it after getting tears. Upgrading it too early isn't a great use of gold because you don't get much AD if it isn't sufficiently charged, and most of the time it's better to build a glacial or whatever situational item the lane calls for. But then again, I suppose this is just a more particular part of the whole "I have no idea wtf I'm doing with items in lane" where people build retarded things like wriggles against AP champs or rushing trinity when you're severely behind in lane. i saw the same thing with urgot. The simple fact is that manamune as a first item is just garbage. It's basically like rushing atmas. Tear into [insert 1 or 2 items] into manamune is simply superior in every respect. The amount of difference i felt between tear -> bruta -> manamune and manamune rush on urgot was enormous, and is likely a similar situation with yorick. | ||
PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
Tear >lvl 1 boots >Catalyst > lvl 2 boots > banshees > atma's > manamune. Always done very well with him too. though i also always max W over E too. | ||
bokeevboke
Singapore1674 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
I just watch yoricks do lots of damage into mid game. | ||
koreasilver
9109 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Netherlands1242 Posts
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NightWalks
Latvia252 Posts
Yorick's power comes from free farm top and deny enemy farm/lvl. Farming at tower without agression on enemy sets Yorick back. | ||
obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
Take for example two yoricks that are identical in runes, masteries, summoners, skilling sequence, and levels. They both go to the middle of the lane to beat each other up. One yorick has a tear, and the other has a negatron cloak. The one with the negatron cloak should win almost all the time. But if one yorick came to lane with a tear, and the other with a pickaxe, then as long as the yorick with tear never hard engaged on a trade, then eventually he'd win the lane through just having more mana. For most lanes I just try to imagine my opponent is a yorick with a pickaxe. Also I think it is a good idea to rush manamune if you're getting tear. Advanced/Legendary items tend to be more efficient than base items so the gold you spend to upgrade items gives you more than you'd get if you spent the same gold on a few sapphire crystals, meki pendants, and long swords. It doesn't matter that tear won't be fully charged. And with manamune, your mana will charge up faster with autoattacks. Also, I don't think manamune is necessary to yorick. Yorick's skilling order is E W E Q E R E W That means he won't have a second mana efficient skill until level 8. Early harass comes almost entirely from E and if you blow all your mana on harassing with inefficient skills you'll run out of mana. | ||
arb
Noobville17915 Posts
On September 09 2012 03:05 obesechicken13 wrote: Someone mentioned in GD that tear really doesn't offer any combat stats to yorick so you can't really engage on people. You have to kite them around. Take for example two yoricks that are identical in runes, masteries, summoners, skilling sequence, and levels. They both go to the middle of the lane to beat each other up. One yorick has a tear, and the other has a negatron cloak. The one with the negatron cloak should win almost all the time. But if one yorick came to lane with a tear, and the other with a pickaxe, then as long as the yorick with tear never hard engaged on a trade, then eventually he'd win the lane through just having more mana. For most lanes I just try to imagine my opponent is a yorick with a pickaxe. Also I think it is a good idea to rush manamune if you're getting tear. Advanced/Legendary items tend to be more efficient than base items so the gold you spend to upgrade items gives you more than you'd get if you spent the same gold on a few sapphire crystals, meki pendants, and long swords. It doesn't matter that tear won't be fully charged. And with manamune, your mana will charge up faster with autoattacks. Also, I don't think manamune is necessary to yorick. Yorick's skilling order is E W E Q E R E W That means he won't have a second mana efficient skill until level 8. Early harass comes almost entirely from E and if you blow all your mana on harassing with inefficient skills you'll run out of mana. I very rarely ever see Yorick skilling like that. Even TRM(noted for his yorick obv) skills something like E W E Q E W E E R R Vastly superior skilling that way imo | ||
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