2012 NCAA College Football Season - Page 5
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itkovian
United States1763 Posts
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Damiani
United States514 Posts
Oregon State over Wisconsin ? LA.Monroe over Arkansas? UCLA over Nebraska? Arizona over OK.State? Or Alabama allowing 7 sacks to a high school. Make your picks!!! I'd have to go with Oregon state over Wisconsin. Arkanasas didnt really think they were good to begin with. They were only hyped up by being in the SEC. | ||
don_kyuhote
3004 Posts
On September 09 2012 15:58 Damiani wrote: Biggest upset of the day? Oregon State over Wisconsin ? LA.Monroe over Arkansas? UCLA over Nebraska? Arizona over OK.State? Or Alabama allowing 7 sacks to a high school. Make your picks!!! I'd have to go with Oregon state over Wisconsin. Arkanasas didnt really think they were good to begin with. They were only hyped up by being in the SEC. They still had very good senior QB who also is the best QB in the SEC West, maybe even entire SEC, and probably 2nd best RB in SEC in Knile Davis. And if I'm not mistaken, they returned most of their defense from last year? So I'd say Lousiana Monroe beating Arkansas at Fayetteville was the upset of the day just because they lost at home while others had a west coast curse on them | ||
Probe1
United States17920 Posts
How can it not go to UL Monroes first win in school history against a ranked opponent? Against an 8th ranked ARKANSAS? | ||
Slaughter
United States20249 Posts
On September 09 2012 15:58 Damiani wrote: Biggest upset of the day? Oregon State over Wisconsin ? LA.Monroe over Arkansas? UCLA over Nebraska? Arizona over OK.State? Or Alabama allowing 7 sacks to a high school. Make your picks!!! I'd have to go with Oregon state over Wisconsin. Arkanasas didnt really think they were good to begin with. They were only hyped up by being in the SEC. Wisconsin was HUGELY overrated. They lost so much and changed so much with their coaching staff this off season. I dunno why people had them ranked as high as they were. Way more then Arkansas imo and LAMonroe is a much worse team than Oregon State. | ||
Damiani
United States514 Posts
On September 09 2012 04:08 phungus420 wrote: I can't believe Utah lost to Utah State... Outside of USC and Oregon the PAC teams look really bad this season. ASU and UCLA looked good on paper, but didn't watch either of their games so not very confident in those teams, hoping at least a couple teams can at least appear to be solid, not sure if Oregon will have the SOS to put them in the MNCG if they win out now. Stanford has completely fallen off, I really think Duke beats them tonight. Whoa just a little off about EVERYTHING here. Pac-12 seems to be the best "CONFERENCE" imho. | ||
Irave
United States9965 Posts
On September 09 2012 16:20 Slaughter wrote: Wisconsin was HUGELY overrated. They lost so much and changed so much with their coaching staff this off season. I dunno why people had them ranked as high as they were. Way more then Arkansas imo and LAMonroe is a much worse team than Oregon State. They are, the beating they put on us last year is added proof that they've fallen off. Sure Oregon State has progressed, but it wasn't as noticeable as how much Wisconsin regressed. Watching them barely beat Northern Iowa, and coming into Corvallis as a 7 point favorite was an easy bet. Happy with the win, even happier that we caught them still in the top 15. The beating Arizona handed out tonight would get my vote. However most impressed with LA Monroe knocking down Arkansas. | ||
iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On September 09 2012 13:28 On_Slaught wrote: Florida struggling against A&M and Georgia struggling against Mizzou for 3+ quarters is more proof for me that the SEC is overhyped this year. Yes they are very very good at the top (LSU and Alabama), but i'm not convinced that everyone after those 2 is any better than the Pac12 or Big12 past their big boys (USC/Oregon in Pac12 and OK/WVU in the Big12). How does 2 SEC teams playing each other prove that the SEC is overhyped? Florida is one of the weakest teams in the East division, against a strong A&M team with motivation on their side. Last Year A&M only won 6, but 5 of their losses (the exception being Oklahoma), they lost by a field goal on average. They could easily have been 10-2. Georgia always starts off slow, then gets ticked off and comes back in the second half. I mean it, almost every single game against competent opponents, thats how they play. Meanwhile, Mizzou last year only went 7-5, but defeated Texas, Texas Tech, and Texas A&M. The one thing I am worried about is that once again I won my penalty bet on Georgia. Made $30 that Georgia would get 10+ penalties. [EDIT]Ultimately, I think the Pac-12 is certainly the only conference remotely capable of competing with the SEC, but there's just no way to say that it is stronger than the SEC. Especially not in a full season of SEC play - be ready for Mizzou and A&M to drop off as the season goes on. We're bigger, faster, and stronger than other schools. Hell, Georgia's line is bigger than half the NFL lines. Actually, the Mizzou example is a great one of why the SEC is just plain better. For one half, they were able to compete. And then they got tired from being hit so much harder and faster than they were used to, and Georgia got warmed up, and you saw the real difference in play. SEC WEST LSU (12-0 or 11-1 this year, see below) Alabama (12-0 or 11-1 this year, see above) Arkansas (They were looking past this game to Alabama next week, won't do that again) Mississippi State Texas A&M Auburn (my alma mater and unfortunately going to go 5-7 or 6-6 this year due to SOS ) [Ole Miss and Louisianna State are the kickarounds) SEC EAST Georgia (say what you want about the first half, they won by three touchdowns) - Could go 12-0. Easy schedule. South Carolina Vandy (Looks much stronger this year than any year before that I can think of) Mizzou (Expect them to fall off later in the season as the SEC grind hits them) Florida (As the NFL would term it, in a "rebuilding year" - still probably competitive with non-SEC 2nd tier schools) [Tennessee & Kentucky] | ||
Damiani
United States514 Posts
On September 09 2012 16:11 Probe1 wrote: How can it not go to UL Monroes first win in school history against a ranked opponent? Against an 8th ranked ARKANSAS? UL Monroe did beat Bama @ Tuscaloosa in 2007 under Nick Saban. Just wanted to point that out. | ||
don_kyuhote
3004 Posts
On September 09 2012 17:57 Damiani wrote: UL Monroe did beat Bama @ Tuscaloosa in 2007 under Nick Saban. Just wanted to point that out. Alabama wasn't even ranked in the top 25 when that happened. Oregon State did beat #1 USC in 2008, so beating 13th ranked, which itself was overrated, Wisconsin shouldn't be a big deal to anyone. | ||
Irave
United States9965 Posts
1 Alabama (48) 2 USC (8) 3 LSU (4) 4 Oregon 5 Florida State 5 Oklahoma 7 Georgia 8 South Carolina 9 West Virginia 10 Michigan State 11 Clemson 12 Ohio State 13 Virginia Tech 14 Texas 15 Kansas State 16 TCU 17 Michigan 18 Florida 19 Louisville 20 Notre Dame 21 Stanford 22 UCLA 23 Tennessee 24 Arizona 25 Brigham Young | ||
Signet
United States1718 Posts
On September 09 2012 13:35 On_Slaught wrote: If there is a Football god, the NC game will be between the Pac12 and SEC. The winner of USC/Oregon and LSU/Alabama is the MU everyone wants to see. Then you should throw the loser of each of those MUs, who will also be in a BCS bowl, into a seperate bowl game against eachother. Can't think of a more awesome situation. Then we can finally put the talk to rest for a while on which conference is better. In recent years the SEC has been able to avoid the pac12 in the championship game. Auburn beat Oregon 2 years ago... But yes I think most people would want to see SEC Champ vs Pac12 Champ in January. No other conferences have a top two that good this season. If it's Alabama vs USC that will be especially great, with all the history those schools have. | ||
GTR
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
To be fair, preseason rankings are always crap. | ||
phungus420
United States179 Posts
On September 09 2012 16:49 Damiani wrote: Whoa just a little off about EVERYTHING here. Pac-12 seems to be the best "CONFERENCE" imho. 3 of the 4 coaching hires in the PAC look like good ones. I really just wasn't expecting things to end up like that, typically with a new coaching staff it takes at least a season to get things going, to see 3 programs shore up their faults so quickly is amazing and even odder is the fact that Leach - the consensus best pick up in the new coaching hires seems to be the only coach to not turn his program around. Things just got alot tougher for USC. Last week it looked like their road to the championship was all but asured if they could get past Oregon and not slip up to an inferior oponent. After Saturday's games it looks like the PAC south is stacked, and probably overall the toughest division in CFB. The Arizon Schools also will finaly be selling out their home games come conference play if this keeps up, which is only going to make things that much tougher. Oregon took a big hit this week from injuries, which really sucks. | ||
Leftwing
Canada229 Posts
Alabama/Arkansas: After that blunder against ULM (credit to ULM, they played their asses off for that win), look for Arkansas to do one of two things: a) bounce back and make it a close game, b) get completely blown out. Alabama has started off well getting into what looks like midseason form already with two strong wins, however the youth at receiver could possibly be the downfall to an offense centered around the QB and not the RB. McCarron is 100x better than McElroy in terms of pure passing skill and that will be the reason they win this game through the air. Alabama's new RBs will show they are no slouches though and will run for at least 120-150 combined yards, opening up the PA game. Arkansas will need to be able to score points to win this game as their defense looks a little flustered after their loss to ULM. Alabama over Arkansas by 14+ points. USC/Stanford: MU of the week for sure, this game will pretty much be the deciding factor between who goes to the NCG. If USC wins this game, even if they lose to Oregon they are guaranteed into the PAC12 Final, meaning they will still have a chance if they can beat Oregon the second time around (much like Bama/LSU but not in a NCG). However if they lose this game it will be unlikely they will get any higher than a top tier bowl game. USC has all the pieces, a vetera QB with strong receivers and a strong defense, expect the inexperienced D-line to be exploited by Stanford. If Stanford pulls this upset USC is out and Oregon will go to the NCG uncontested. USC over Stanford by 7+ points. Upset of the Week: James Madison over WVU: WHAT?! You think WVU could lose after their last game?! Are you serious?!? Yes. WVU looks strong no doubt, Geno Smith looks great and the rest of the team looks just as good. Their weakness? Ego. We've seen it before, hell just the week before with Arkansas and ULM. If there was to be a major upset this week, I'd put it on this game. The only place for this WVU team to go is down, simply because they are catching fire too early in the season. JMU over WVU by -3 points in a shocker. Just some biased opinions with relatively little knowledge of the teams current state and peaking at stats. | ||
itkovian
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seanisgrand
United States1039 Posts
On September 14 2012 10:44 Leftwing wrote: USC/Stanford: MU of the week for sure, this game will pretty much be the deciding factor between who goes to the NCG. If USC wins this game, even if they lose to Oregon they are guaranteed into the PAC12 Final, meaning they will still have a chance if they can beat Oregon the second time around (much like Bama/LSU but not in a NCG). However if they lose this game it will be unlikely they will get any higher than a top tier bowl game. USC has all the pieces, a vetera QB with strong receivers and a strong defense, expect the inexperienced D-line to be exploited by Stanford. If Stanford pulls this upset USC is out and Oregon will go to the NCG uncontested. USC over Stanford by 7+ points. Stanford is in the north just like Oregon so your point of USC only making a top tier bowl game if they lose tomorrow is irrelevant. They can lose to Stanford and beat Oregon and the outcome wouldn't change even if it was the opposite. Win in the CCG and you get a BCS bowl. USC wouldn't have gone to the NCG with 1 loss anyway. Also, the D-line has been the strongest defensive unit in the first two games for USC, despite the media calling it inexperienced. The problem areas are injuries in the linebacker core and the dreadful pass coverage. I think USC drops the hammer tomorrow. Bigger margin of victory than anyone is expecting. I'm thinking 42-21. | ||
LosingID8
CA10824 Posts
i hope wsu has a dominating win tonight vs a terrible program like UNLV. the cellar dwellers in our conference need to stop losing to mid majors. the big games for the pac12 conference are asu vs mizzou and cal vs ohio state. i actually expect asu to win. i don't expect cal to win (they are terrible whenever they play in the east)... but hopefully they can keep it close. | ||
ronpaul012
United States769 Posts
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