You are really just putting salt into the wound.
Your past and dodgy answering in the last thread simply makes me want you to go away and not touch ESPORTS again.
You're a blight.
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
You are really just putting salt into the wound. Your past and dodgy answering in the last thread simply makes me want you to go away and not touch ESPORTS again. You're a blight. | ||
Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
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TechNoTrance
Canada1007 Posts
On September 11 2012 15:33 RuMCaKe wrote: BF, you wanna pay me the rest of the money you owe me why your at it? I mean its only from Columbus last year and with all your new recent success I could only imagine you can afford the 800 dollars difference that came out of my pocket. I gave you an honest chance, made a fair deal, and you were unable to follow through. I however do think you at least wanted to, you just weren't able to deliver. Hope you have at least 3-4 months of these guys salaries already stashed away in some bank account so you don't rip off some poor kid that doesn't even speak your language. One day maybe you will get a clue that being dishonest to people, isn't the easiest way to achieve long term success, despite the very, very, very, short term gain you seem to get on a regular basis. IE having some new player for 2 weeks before they bail. Or are you just going to continue to ignore posts like this? Your extremely low level of professionalism isn't helping your cause. | ||
Jehct
New Zealand9115 Posts
On September 14 2012 10:30 TMStarcraft wrote: Show nested quote + On September 14 2012 09:12 SilSol wrote: On September 14 2012 09:08 laLAlA[uC] wrote: Why isn't this guy banned? yeah i wonder that too. Just get it over with Probably because he isn't breaking any of TL's rules. He is not on TL to scam anyone, nor advertise, he is merely posting up some news which is obviously relevant to the community (because now everyone can say "OMG another poor bastard got scammed!"). Imagine the [increase in] outrage mods would receive if they outright banned everyone they didn't like. Just because everything about fogger reads as him either being incompetent or a scumbag doesn't necessarily mean he should be banned. I'd say it's more because his threads and posts scare away more potential players/sponsors than anything else. Seriously, he fucking quotes himself and his player tag in posts he makes and posts under his account. He's beyond incompetent. | ||
Stutters695
2610 Posts
On September 14 2012 10:41 MattBarry wrote: I think some of you want this guy to scam the players so you have a new figure to point the pitchforks at. Only time will tell if this guy is still scamming people, in the meantime chill out in his announcement threads. Jeez "Maybe they've changed" That's what everyone said in 2010 after the first issue. They hadn't That's what everyone said in 2011. They hadn't. Now their website misrepresents their sponsorships and can't even explain simple questions regarding how they've changed. They're not getting a free pass for a third time from me. | ||
MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On September 14 2012 10:59 Stutters695 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 14 2012 10:41 MattBarry wrote: I think some of you want this guy to scam the players so you have a new figure to point the pitchforks at. Only time will tell if this guy is still scamming people, in the meantime chill out in his announcement threads. Jeez "Maybe they've changed" That's what everyone said in 2010 after the first issue. They hadn't That's what everyone said in 2011. They hadn't. Now their website misrepresents their sponsorships and can't even explain simple questions regarding how they've changed. They're not getting a free pass for a third time from me. He doesn't come off as a scammer to me. An idiot? Definitely. A scammer? Not so much. Maybe that's his tactic | ||
Blackfoger
81 Posts
On September 14 2012 10:41 MattBarry wrote: I think some of you want this guy to scam the players so you have a new figure to point the pitchforks at. Only time will tell if this guy is still scamming people, in the meantime chill out in his announcement threads. Jeez You need to speak with this guy On September 14 2012 10:49 SilSol wrote: Show nested quote + On September 14 2012 10:38 Blackfoger wrote: Our teams that we have acquired have received what has been promised as well as what's exactly stipulated in their contract. Our Team Fortress 2 team is not contracted they received support, our CSS/CSGO team Zomblerz whom we were partnered with for about a year was not contracted and received support. Our current SC2 roster has received support we have no intention of "Scamming" them. As I said prior we are announcing a new sponsor, we just want room to breathe and operate. You realize that so many people will email ur sponsors telling them what you have done to the community. I have always been against emailing sponsors and destroy for organizations and players and their livelihood but i think you deserve it Blackfoger. I hope they email them so many times that you will lose ur support from them IF they are even real. Because own3d is not a "sponsor" they just give u partnership. And Dolby IS not a sponsor they don't give you any money and u lost 1 of ur sponsors also. Ur a typical liar Blackfoger and i hope your blight team goes under for what you have done to people. On September 14 2012 10:48 Stutters695 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 14 2012 09:19 Blackfoger wrote: On September 14 2012 09:16 Solarsail wrote: Even if you HAVE changed, your name and team won't be adding value to any sponsors you gain. At least rebrand from Blight. Despite what everyone thinks we have been supporting teams for awhile. Rebranding won't solve the issues of past mistakes it would be running away from them. Ok so what teams have you been supporting for LANs and travel? Paying ESEA fees to compete online doesn't count. I'm 22 and in college and I can do that. You only list a CS:GO and TF2 team on your website (Your TF2 team can't even field a full roster for a LAN according to the Blight website btw.) You have 2 sponsors listed. Dolby (which has been confirmed to not actually sponsor you, it's just that you use their products) and Own3d. Somehow I doubt Own3d is anything more than a partnership that any pro-player could do. Start showing how you can support teams and teams you've supported and people will be a lot more likely to believe you. We have been to a number of LANS this year alone. We sent Zomblerz to a few ESEA LANs, our TF2 team has a fully roster not yet finished on the website designing a different team page. You can speak with our current teams about how they are being supported as they are one's getting support, I have said it is coming out of pocket, advertising income, donations, private investors, streaming income and sponsors. On September 14 2012 10:53 TechNoTrance wrote: So Blackfoger, do you ever intend to acknowledge people like this: Show nested quote + On September 11 2012 15:33 RuMCaKe wrote: BF, you wanna pay me the rest of the money you owe me why your at it? I mean its only from Columbus last year and with all your new recent success I could only imagine you can afford the 800 dollars difference that came out of my pocket. I gave you an honest chance, made a fair deal, and you were unable to follow through. I however do think you at least wanted to, you just weren't able to deliver. Hope you have at least 3-4 months of these guys salaries already stashed away in some bank account so you don't rip off some poor kid that doesn't even speak your language. One day maybe you will get a clue that being dishonest to people, isn't the easiest way to achieve long term success, despite the very, very, very, short term gain you seem to get on a regular basis. IE having some new player for 2 weeks before they bail. Or are you just going to continue to ignore posts like this? Your extremely low level of professionalism isn't helping your cause. Yes I am going to ignore those posts because I actually spoken to scott personally. | ||
MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On September 14 2012 11:03 Blackfoger wrote: Show nested quote + On September 14 2012 10:41 MattBarry wrote: I think some of you want this guy to scam the players so you have a new figure to point the pitchforks at. Only time will tell if this guy is still scamming people, in the meantime chill out in his announcement threads. Jeez You need to speak with this guy Show nested quote + On September 14 2012 10:49 SilSol wrote: On September 14 2012 10:38 Blackfoger wrote: Our teams that we have acquired have received what has been promised as well as what's exactly stipulated in their contract. Our Team Fortress 2 team is not contracted they received support, our CSS/CSGO team Zomblerz whom we were partnered with for about a year was not contracted and received support. Our current SC2 roster has received support we have no intention of "Scamming" them. As I said prior we are announcing a new sponsor, we just want room to breathe and operate. You realize that so many people will email ur sponsors telling them what you have done to the community. I have always been against emailing sponsors and destroy for organizations and players and their livelihood but i think you deserve it Blackfoger. I hope they email them so many times that you will lose ur support from them IF they are even real. Because own3d is not a "sponsor" they just give u partnership. And Dolby IS not a sponsor they don't give you any money and u lost 1 of ur sponsors also. Ur a typical liar Blackfoger and i hope your blight team goes under for what you have done to people. Show nested quote + On September 14 2012 10:48 Stutters695 wrote: On September 14 2012 09:19 Blackfoger wrote: On September 14 2012 09:16 Solarsail wrote: Even if you HAVE changed, your name and team won't be adding value to any sponsors you gain. At least rebrand from Blight. Despite what everyone thinks we have been supporting teams for awhile. Rebranding won't solve the issues of past mistakes it would be running away from them. Ok so what teams have you been supporting for LANs and travel? Paying ESEA fees to compete online doesn't count. I'm 22 and in college and I can do that. You only list a CS:GO and TF2 team on your website (Your TF2 team can't even field a full roster for a LAN according to the Blight website btw.) You have 2 sponsors listed. Dolby (which has been confirmed to not actually sponsor you, it's just that you use their products) and Own3d. Somehow I doubt Own3d is anything more than a partnership that any pro-player could do. Start showing how you can support teams and teams you've supported and people will be a lot more likely to believe you. We have been to a number of LANS this year alone. We sent Zomblerz to a few ESEA LANs, our TF2 team has a fully roster not yet finished on the website designing a different team page. You can speak with our current teams about how they are being supported as they are one's getting support, I have said it is coming out of pocket, advertising income, donations, private investors, streaming income and sponsors. Show nested quote + On September 14 2012 10:53 TechNoTrance wrote: So Blackfoger, do you ever intend to acknowledge people like this: On September 11 2012 15:33 RuMCaKe wrote: BF, you wanna pay me the rest of the money you owe me why your at it? I mean its only from Columbus last year and with all your new recent success I could only imagine you can afford the 800 dollars difference that came out of my pocket. I gave you an honest chance, made a fair deal, and you were unable to follow through. I however do think you at least wanted to, you just weren't able to deliver. Hope you have at least 3-4 months of these guys salaries already stashed away in some bank account so you don't rip off some poor kid that doesn't even speak your language. One day maybe you will get a clue that being dishonest to people, isn't the easiest way to achieve long term success, despite the very, very, very, short term gain you seem to get on a regular basis. IE having some new player for 2 weeks before they bail. Or are you just going to continue to ignore posts like this? Your extremely low level of professionalism isn't helping your cause. Yes I am going to ignore those posts because I actually spoken to scott personally. If you want to change, good on you. If you're not changing and you are scamming again, I'm pretty sure the TL mods will take action this time. | ||
9-BiT
United States1089 Posts
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Blackfoger
81 Posts
On September 14 2012 10:59 Stutters695 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 14 2012 10:41 MattBarry wrote: I think some of you want this guy to scam the players so you have a new figure to point the pitchforks at. Only time will tell if this guy is still scamming people, in the meantime chill out in his announcement threads. Jeez "Maybe they've changed" That's what everyone said in 2010 after the first issue. They hadn't That's what everyone said in 2011. They hadn't. Now their website misrepresents their sponsorships and can't even explain simple questions regarding how they've changed. They're not getting a free pass for a third time from me. You again have zero idea of our partnerships with our current/past teams, we have not had any issues for awhile and the problems you are talking about are near 2008/9. Our website does not misrepresent our sponsorships, they are our sponsors that is why we put them up there. A sponsorship is not always fiscal backing sometimes its gear package, marketing exchange, traffic redirection, or banner exchange just some possabilities. | ||
Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
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Pandain
United States12882 Posts
You don't fuck with people's lives. | ||
MethodSC
United States928 Posts
On September 14 2012 11:10 Blackfoger wrote: Show nested quote + On September 14 2012 10:59 Stutters695 wrote: On September 14 2012 10:41 MattBarry wrote: I think some of you want this guy to scam the players so you have a new figure to point the pitchforks at. Only time will tell if this guy is still scamming people, in the meantime chill out in his announcement threads. Jeez "Maybe they've changed" That's what everyone said in 2010 after the first issue. They hadn't That's what everyone said in 2011. They hadn't. Now their website misrepresents their sponsorships and can't even explain simple questions regarding how they've changed. They're not getting a free pass for a third time from me. You again have zero idea of our partnerships with our current/past teams, we have not had any issues for awhile and the problems you are talking about are near 2008/9. Our website does not misrepresent our sponsorships, they are our sponsors that is why we put them up there. A sponsorship is not always fiscal backing sometimes its gear package, marketing exchange, traffic redirection, or banner exchange just some possabilities. You need to change the way you're responding to people. You're only making yourself look like an even bigger scammer and liar by getting so defensive and condescending. I'll only let you know what you already should, but this community is the real thing, fuck with them, and your "business" is done forever. Period. So tread lightly and think about what you're typing on here. | ||
TaphrWesley
Netherlands64 Posts
Hopefully things work out this time with Blackfoger, though I don't see it happening GL! | ||
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