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On November 17 2012 22:08 FindMeInKenya wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 22:06 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On November 17 2012 22:03 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 17 2012 21:59 krutopatkin wrote:Without both Nerchio and Stephano, I predict a full Korean Top 4 Scarlett is still a hope. She can beat Parting it isn't out of the realm of possibility, and if she can do that she just has to beat either Suppy or Killer in a ZvZ (which looks like her strongest match up atm) to put a foreigner in the top 4. Sadly, I just don't think that Suppy or Killer are good enough to beat Parting if he manages to get past Scarlett, so all foreign hopes for a top 4 finish really relies on her getting past Parting tomorrow. There's also the longshot that Idra manages to get past Rain, but I find that INCREDIBLY unlikely. Whoever wins between Lucifron and Vortix will have to go against Creator unless Illusion can miraculously pull the biggest upset in SC2 history to take him down. In the end, I agree I think a Korean (Protoss) top 4 is likely at this point, which is what I was expecting from the very beginning. Parting can also review the games from Scarlett and design a few nice counter/timing - builds. I am really looking forward to IdrA vs Rain - that series got some potential. People always forget that SEn is still in this.... Lol, i lost the count of people saying sen is gonna win this, win that, rape the rest, etc. He plays really good, but he never delivers.
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I can't believe i'm goin to say this...
But i'll be rooting for Idra
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On November 17 2012 22:09 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 22:07 Boucot wrote: I'm sad about the results of today. The two best foreigners and the most loved SC2 player out. It's painful. marineking wasn't even in this tourney o.O
I know right.
Although Grubby is easily top 10 fan favorites. That isn't really debatable I think.
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On November 17 2012 22:08 FindMeInKenya wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 22:06 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On November 17 2012 22:03 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 17 2012 21:59 krutopatkin wrote:Without both Nerchio and Stephano, I predict a full Korean Top 4 Scarlett is still a hope. She can beat Parting it isn't out of the realm of possibility, and if she can do that she just has to beat either Suppy or Killer in a ZvZ (which looks like her strongest match up atm) to put a foreigner in the top 4. Sadly, I just don't think that Suppy or Killer are good enough to beat Parting if he manages to get past Scarlett, so all foreign hopes for a top 4 finish really relies on her getting past Parting tomorrow. There's also the longshot that Idra manages to get past Rain, but I find that INCREDIBLY unlikely. Whoever wins between Lucifron and Vortix will have to go against Creator unless Illusion can miraculously pull the biggest upset in SC2 history to take him down. In the end, I agree I think a Korean (Protoss) top 4 is likely at this point, which is what I was expecting from the very beginning. Parting can also review the games from Scarlett and design a few nice counter/timing - builds. I am really looking forward to IdrA vs Rain - that series got some potential. People always forget that SEn is still in this....
But Sen got destroyed by Koreans at WCS Asia.
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On November 17 2012 22:08 FindMeInKenya wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 22:06 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On November 17 2012 22:03 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 17 2012 21:59 krutopatkin wrote:Without both Nerchio and Stephano, I predict a full Korean Top 4 Scarlett is still a hope. She can beat Parting it isn't out of the realm of possibility, and if she can do that she just has to beat either Suppy or Killer in a ZvZ (which looks like her strongest match up atm) to put a foreigner in the top 4. Sadly, I just don't think that Suppy or Killer are good enough to beat Parting if he manages to get past Scarlett, so all foreign hopes for a top 4 finish really relies on her getting past Parting tomorrow. There's also the longshot that Idra manages to get past Rain, but I find that INCREDIBLY unlikely. Whoever wins between Lucifron and Vortix will have to go against Creator unless Illusion can miraculously pull the biggest upset in SC2 history to take him down. In the end, I agree I think a Korean (Protoss) top 4 is likely at this point, which is what I was expecting from the very beginning. Parting can also review the games from Scarlett and design a few nice counter/timing - builds. I am really looking forward to IdrA vs Rain - that series got some potential. People always forget that SEn is still in this....
I think the Sen v Curious match is actually the best match of the Ro16
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I predict Parting Lowely Sen HerO Rain Killer vortix Creator Parting Sen Rain Creator Sen Creator Creator... Babyknight could easily beat HerO but i think sen will beat both of them scarlett has a shot. But Parting has too much soul IMO Lucifron Cs Vortix is hard to call but i think neither can beat creator Killer could beat rain IMO but it will be very hard
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Why Grubby, why... ?
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I tried to find the video from dkiller when he won the latin american invitational that qualified him for blizzcon, but blizzard has deleted the vods. GREAT JOB, THAT'S CREATING STORYLINES ON THE LONG RUN!!
(they're not on youtube)
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On November 17 2012 22:11 UnholyRai wrote: so sad grubby is out
I think we all are here. But if you saw how Killer played that series you could understand why it happened and maybe then the grieving can begin on the road to acceptance.
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titan seems to have super good chance now as i don't see him losing to killer then it's seems just like pvp for him which is his best match up.
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On November 17 2012 22:03 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 21:59 krutopatkin wrote:Without both Nerchio and Stephano, I predict a full Korean Top 4 Scarlett is still a hope. She can beat Parting it isn't out of the realm of possibility, and if she can do that she just has to beat either Suppy or Killer in a ZvZ (which looks like her strongest match up atm) to put a foreigner in the top 4. Sadly, I just don't think that Suppy or Killer are good enough to beat Parting if he manages to get past Scarlett, so all foreign hopes for a top 4 finish really relies on her getting past Parting tomorrow. There's also the longshot that Idra manages to get past Rain, but I find that INCREDIBLY unlikely. Whoever wins between Lucifron and Vortix will have to go against Creator unless Illusion can miraculously pull the biggest upset in SC2 history to take him down. In the end, I agree I think a Korean (Protoss) top 4 is likely at this point, which is what I was expecting from the very beginning. Also on a similar note, the only way we'll get to see a Terran make the round of 4 is if one of them can get past Creator. I don't see that happening. Best chance for a top 8 finish lies in Lucifron defeating his brother.
Maybe mention Sen, BK and Titan? Lol, I mean looking at the bracket BK and Sen are having nice odds, and Titan went 4-1 against hero and curious.
I think Koreans have bad chance to, If I exclude Creator, Rain and Parting ^^
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On November 17 2012 22:02 opterown wrote:Poll: Your Battle.Net World Champion?IdrA (422) 24% Rain (330) 19% Creator (202) 12% PartinG (173) 10% HerO (151) 9% Scarlett (123) 7% Other (93) 5% LucifroN (89) 5% BabyKnight (51) 3% TitaN (48) 3% VortiX (31) 2% Curious (20) 1% 1733 total votes Your vote: Your Battle.Net World Champion? (Vote): Rain (Vote): Creator (Vote): PartinG (Vote): Curious (Vote): IdrA (Vote): Scarlett (Vote): HerO (Vote): LucifroN (Vote): VortiX (Vote): TitaN (Vote): BabyKnight (Vote): Other
switching to Creator now, hes playing like a champ
Rain seems to be aware of his massive hypetrain, which might influence him negatively and he looks to be vulnerable in PvP (without taking credit from Babyknight)
Creator is playing nearly perfect in all matchups right now, he should be suited better against the other korean Protoss players like PartinG and HerO
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On November 17 2012 22:09 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 22:07 Boucot wrote: I'm sad about the results of today. The two best foreigners and the most loved SC2 player out. It's painful. I'd say Scarlett is quickly rushing up the ladder of top foreigners with the way she's been playing.To say that Nerchio is the second best foreigner in the world right now I think is a little debateable. (Especially considering how badly Scarlett just beat him, team kill or no.) That Stephano fell was simply due to HerO's last minute brilliance which is still an epic story.
I actually think that Scarlett is already up there. The only reason she is not given more credit is because she rarely plays in big turnaments. Whenever she does actually play she tends to get very far.
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On November 17 2012 22:12 Vindicare605 wrote:I think we all are here. But if you saw how Killer played that series you could understand why it happened and maybe then the grieving can begin on the road to acceptance. Killer is just too good in ZvP. He understands where zerg is good and Utilizes it i want to see huim Vs a very strong protoss like rain or creator
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On November 17 2012 22:11 krutopatkin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 22:08 FindMeInKenya wrote:On November 17 2012 22:06 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On November 17 2012 22:03 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 17 2012 21:59 krutopatkin wrote:Without both Nerchio and Stephano, I predict a full Korean Top 4 Scarlett is still a hope. She can beat Parting it isn't out of the realm of possibility, and if she can do that she just has to beat either Suppy or Killer in a ZvZ (which looks like her strongest match up atm) to put a foreigner in the top 4. Sadly, I just don't think that Suppy or Killer are good enough to beat Parting if he manages to get past Scarlett, so all foreign hopes for a top 4 finish really relies on her getting past Parting tomorrow. There's also the longshot that Idra manages to get past Rain, but I find that INCREDIBLY unlikely. Whoever wins between Lucifron and Vortix will have to go against Creator unless Illusion can miraculously pull the biggest upset in SC2 history to take him down. In the end, I agree I think a Korean (Protoss) top 4 is likely at this point, which is what I was expecting from the very beginning. Parting can also review the games from Scarlett and design a few nice counter/timing - builds. I am really looking forward to IdrA vs Rain - that series got some potential. People always forget that SEn is still in this.... But Sen got destroyed by Koreans at WCS Asia.
Why would SEn tryhard when he has a seed in the WCS finals already?
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On November 17 2012 22:14 FindMeInKenya wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 22:11 krutopatkin wrote:On November 17 2012 22:08 FindMeInKenya wrote:On November 17 2012 22:06 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On November 17 2012 22:03 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 17 2012 21:59 krutopatkin wrote:Without both Nerchio and Stephano, I predict a full Korean Top 4 Scarlett is still a hope. She can beat Parting it isn't out of the realm of possibility, and if she can do that she just has to beat either Suppy or Killer in a ZvZ (which looks like her strongest match up atm) to put a foreigner in the top 4. Sadly, I just don't think that Suppy or Killer are good enough to beat Parting if he manages to get past Scarlett, so all foreign hopes for a top 4 finish really relies on her getting past Parting tomorrow. There's also the longshot that Idra manages to get past Rain, but I find that INCREDIBLY unlikely. Whoever wins between Lucifron and Vortix will have to go against Creator unless Illusion can miraculously pull the biggest upset in SC2 history to take him down. In the end, I agree I think a Korean (Protoss) top 4 is likely at this point, which is what I was expecting from the very beginning. Parting can also review the games from Scarlett and design a few nice counter/timing - builds. I am really looking forward to IdrA vs Rain - that series got some potential. People always forget that SEn is still in this.... But Sen got destroyed by Koreans at WCS Asia. Why would SEn tryhard when he has a seed in the WCS finals already?
Theres this wonderful thing called money.
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Today's big winners:
1) Titan - qualify for the ro16 by knocking out two Koreans like a boss 2) Idra - 4-0 in the group he was supposed to 0-4 3) Babyknight - takes out Rain in a PvP
Today's big losers:
1) Roro - what went wrong? 2) Stephano - see #1 3) Lucifron and Vortix...seriously, how unlucky can you get? At least one of them is guaranteed top 8
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Since grubby is out and not any chinese advanced, (I don't even remember any one in this torney?) Tomorrow is gonna be very quiet from audience
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On November 17 2012 22:12 4ZakeN87 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 22:03 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 17 2012 21:59 krutopatkin wrote:Without both Nerchio and Stephano, I predict a full Korean Top 4 Scarlett is still a hope. She can beat Parting it isn't out of the realm of possibility, and if she can do that she just has to beat either Suppy or Killer in a ZvZ (which looks like her strongest match up atm) to put a foreigner in the top 4. Sadly, I just don't think that Suppy or Killer are good enough to beat Parting if he manages to get past Scarlett, so all foreign hopes for a top 4 finish really relies on her getting past Parting tomorrow. There's also the longshot that Idra manages to get past Rain, but I find that INCREDIBLY unlikely. Whoever wins between Lucifron and Vortix will have to go against Creator unless Illusion can miraculously pull the biggest upset in SC2 history to take him down. In the end, I agree I think a Korean (Protoss) top 4 is likely at this point, which is what I was expecting from the very beginning. Also on a similar note, the only way we'll get to see a Terran make the round of 4 is if one of them can get past Creator. I don't see that happening. Best chance for a top 8 finish lies in Lucifron defeating his brother. Maybe mention Sen, BK and Titan? Lol, I mean looking at the bracket BK and Sen are having nice odds, and Titan went 4-1 against hero and curious. I think Koreans have bad chance to, If I excluded Creator, Rain and Parting ^^
I think Sen actually has pretty long odds right now. For him to make top 4 he'd have it make it past Curious which definitely will not be an easy feat, Sen's never looked particularly strong in ZvZ whenever I see him go against Koreans and even if he manages to win that he'll have to beat HerO (unless of course Babyknight PvPs him to death) who just beat Stephano.
I mean with the volatility that's involved with PvP I suppose both Titan AND Sen could advance or maybe even Babyknight also if he's lucky but again that'd all come down to build order wins and plain luck as far as I'm concerned /shrug.
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