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SK Planet Proleague started today and an English cast was provided via http://www.twitch.tv/sc2proleague (with DoA and Monte Cristo "guest" casting for today and tomorrow only, on loan from OGN)
Something people figured out as the broadcast started was that 480p and up (to 720+) was restricted to subscribers only, and the subscription was $4.99 / one time.
Let me repeat: this is listed on the Twitch subscription page as a ONE TIME cost of $4.99, whereas most other streams have a Twitch subscription option of $4.99 / month. This led most in the chat to assume that the one-time $4.99 subscription cost will hold for the ENTIRE 2012-2013 Proleague season, which lasts one year.
However, I have a feeling (actually, I'm pretty sure) that this is NOT what Kespa/IEG is intending to provide to the foreign audience, and that they are probably going to come up with their own pricing scheme that will be somewhat comparable to GomTV's GSL/GSTL pricing system (which is around $80+ at a MINIMUM per league (GSL/GSTL), per year).
Do you think that Kespa will come in and "change" the terms of the subscription so that it doesn't last beyond, say, this month?
I personally think that Kespa will do it (once they pull their English casting production plans together), which will probably produce some uproar amongst the current subscribers (myself included) who paid $5 with the assumption/"understanding" that it was a $5 one time payment to become a subscriber.
Because if Kespa really does unveil a high-priced system for 480p/HD and VOD access (~$100-$200 for the season), I don't think people will react very kindly. Especially since this wasn't communicated ahead of time (well, NOTHING was communicated ahead of time about the English cast, because I think it hasn't actually been decided yet).
Any thoughts...?
UPDATE: I had missed the fact that the official TwitchTV twitter account had tweeted the following. So, it looks like it's only $5 total for the entire 2012-2013 season (7.5 months of content)
@TwitchTV: 20 minutes left until the Proleague season opener http://bit.ly/RIzWs4 Purchase a $4.99 Subscription for 7.5 months of HD content!
@TwitchTV: Yes, that's a one-time, $4.99 payment, for Proleague in HD. Apologies for the messy language, it's getting fixed. We're coming in hot!
Since it's Kespa, I still feel like they may change their minds at any moment. Or alternately, this may show that they TOTALLY do not understand the potential of the English/foreign market... (as evidenced by their severe lack of planning, preparation, and investment in their English stream). Sorry for the anger/dislike of Kespa that's seeping through in my tone. I can't help it! I guess hearing my favorite foreign pro's and former pro's talking about the dark days of Kespa dominated Brood War has "influenced" (or biased) me
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4.99$ for each day would seem reasonable to me.
After all, they aren't running a charity here.
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I wouldnt buy it yet until Kespa release more info about it. They probably will have some sort of payment for the entire year (probably somewhere around that cost) just that it will be on a different channel.
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open kr stream, mute, open eng stream, watch kr stream,. learn kr or learn to use vlc.
ps, i m in china now, fine wif360p
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Kespa gets nothing from me.
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its pretty simple, the twitch subscription says its a ONE TIME PAYMENT. So if they then change the price or make it monthly, everyone who already paid should get it for what we already paid. If we don't we can all ask for our money back, I will certainly be getting my money back if they do change the price or make it a monthly thing as for your money it said I would get HD stream, access to archives and that it was a one time payment.
Changing it now would be false advertising and selling a product under false pretenses.
I would be happy to pay similar to what I do for GSL, just that I bought a product at a certain price and won't be happy if I was sold it falsely.
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4.99 ... thats like 3 euro ? damn sure i paid for eg tl vs kt ... even if they change and i have to rebuy damn i pay more for a sandwich ...
dont get it guys you call yourself FANS but not willing to pay as much in a month then you pay in a half day for coffee
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I paid, doubt they will change it anyway since they make it pretty clear it's a one time charge. I could be wrong of course ^^.
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Well, Twitch was promoting the ticketing, so I am quite confident that it will be a time only payment.
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Twitch repeatedly said it was for the whole season, so it had better be for the whole season... if not, they should offer refunds at a bare minimum.
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On December 08 2012 16:59 Disengaged wrote: Kespa gets nothing from me.
-_- please dont let irrational hatred hurt esports. It's a damn good price, so damn good.
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refunds ... really guys ? you watched epic games for 3 euro and you want a refund ? like if the coffee was cold ? should they send it to your home with a nice letter the 3 euro ? ... oh guys ... dont call urself fans xD
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On December 08 2012 17:23 CoR wrote: refunds ... really guys ? you watched epic games for 3 euro and you want a refund ? like if the coffee was cold ? should they send it to your home with a nice letter the 3 euro ? ... oh guys ... dont call urself fans xD
Wasn't really that epic ;P
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$5/day?? That's pretty expensive for a long term tourney >"<
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On December 08 2012 17:22 Caihead wrote:-_- please dont let irrational hatred hurt esports. It's a damn good price, so damn good.
Don't care.
They get nothing.
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On December 08 2012 16:55 Fryingpants wrote: 4.99$ for each day would seem reasonable to me.
After all, they aren't running a charity here. One post, lol.
Hello most honorable KESPA CEO.
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On December 08 2012 17:28 Disengaged wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2012 17:22 Caihead wrote:On December 08 2012 16:59 Disengaged wrote: Kespa gets nothing from me. -_- please dont let irrational hatred hurt esports. It's a damn good price, so damn good. Don't care. They get nothing.
Really? You have a slayers tag, and you are hating on KESPA instead of ESF?
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On December 08 2012 16:55 Fryingpants wrote: 4.99$ for each day would seem reasonable to me.
After all, they aren't running a charity here.
Fortunately there is competition (e.g. GSL) that provides real value.
$4.99 per day is not reasonable.
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Depends on who there new commentators are before I'll buy it, its super cheap which is a nice way to start off for them.
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5$ a day with 10 bo1's is way way too much.
Also I dont think it a good idea to charge per day, both on pr and commercial reasons.
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