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On April 10 2013 08:57 overt wrote: Changing Muramana to deal physical makes it a lot more appealing on the people who would buy it the most. Although I dunno if you'd buy it on Ryze anymore now. Yeah, indirect buff to Kha and Jayce, as if they need it.
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i like thresh, his kit is so creative. i don't even play him but it's fun to play against him, even.
it's kinda funny how riot was like "wahhhhh we don't want to make support champions" and they release nami specifically as support and she's underwhelming, then bam here comes thresh with and he's super strong..
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On April 10 2013 09:05 kainzero wrote: i like thresh, his kit is so creative. i don't even play him but it's fun to play against him, even.
it's kinda funny how riot was like "wahhhhh we don't want to make support champions" and they release nami specifically as support and she's underwhelming, then bam here comes thresh with and he's super strong.. Riot never said that, they said they'd make 2 support champs a year, which is pretty much what we got (not counting zyra, because she wasn't billed as a support)
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On April 10 2013 09:05 kainzero wrote: i like thresh, his kit is so creative. i don't even play him but it's fun to play against him, even.
it's kinda funny how riot was like "wahhhhh we don't want to make support champions" and they release nami specifically as support and she's underwhelming, then bam here comes thresh with and he's super strong..
Didn't they design him as a support, though?
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damn it, i should have bashed dota and SC2 some more in the old discusion thread.
i guess its good that they are slowing down with the balance again, but they still only buff/nerf with the foresight and memory of a goldfish.
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Knew it wasn't gonna last..
Anyways, yay random Kayle nerf and Nunu buff.
Some of these changes make little sense to me, but occasionally Riot surprises.
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On April 10 2013 08:57 overt wrote: Changing Muramana to deal physical makes it a lot more appealing on the people who would buy it the most. Although I dunno if you'd buy it on Ryze anymore now.
Just a quick question, does sivir's W proc it on each target? If so, does it chunk 3% mana PER target? or just per cast? Might be pretty good on her.
Oh, also would it work with corki's rockets as well?
On April 10 2013 09:20 57 Corvette wrote: Knew it wasn't gonna last..
Anyways, yay random Kayle nerf and Nunu buff.
Some of these changes make little sense to me, but occasionally Riot surprises.
Doesn't even phase me. Never cast kayle ulti on anyone else but me. huehue ^_^
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I posted this in our thread, but thanks so much TL! Soniv and I won our contest!!
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On April 10 2013 09:08 Praetorial wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 09:05 kainzero wrote: i like thresh, his kit is so creative. i don't even play him but it's fun to play against him, even.
it's kinda funny how riot was like "wahhhhh we don't want to make support champions" and they release nami specifically as support and she's underwhelming, then bam here comes thresh with and he's super strong.. Didn't they design him as a support, though? i always thought they just designed him with a cool kit and it turned out that he's good at support
hooks are hooks lantern is really unique flay is a standard displace (like say, draven) passive is a steroid semi-tanky stats
in the meantime, nami's kit just screams support. and nothing else.
passive helps other people move faster aqua prison aoe is shitty and can't clear waves, only designed to hit other heroes ebb and flow is a funky bounce heal with terrible AP scaling and you can't use the bounce mechanic in a solo lane (or jungle) blessing also has terrible AP scaling and seems more designed to help others as opposed to yourself
it just seems funny to compare the 2 supports that are released based on kit
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I just wish they would take a fine approach to adjustment, not BAM nerf you, and you and you, oh and you can have double damage on this ability since we don't see you competitively. Just little touch ups to bring champions in line, often they are FotM anyway and not actually as powerful as they seem (things like Zed atm).
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On April 10 2013 09:21 Soloside wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 08:57 overt wrote: Changing Muramana to deal physical makes it a lot more appealing on the people who would buy it the most. Although I dunno if you'd buy it on Ryze anymore now. Just a quick question, does sivir's W proc it on each target? If so, does it chunk 3% mana PER target? or just per cast? Might be pretty good on her. Oh, also would it work with corki's rockets as well? Sivir's W only applies on hit effects on the initial target so I'd imagine Muramana doesn't proc per target. Only on the first target. Corki's rockets have never applied on hit effects and are aoe. So Muramana shouldn't proc on it.
Pretty sure Thresh was designed as a support.
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Won't miss Akali. Glad to see them balancing the spirit stone items...
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Akali was at 50% win rate in solo queue and irrelevant to competitive play better nerf her.
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On April 10 2013 09:23 kainzero wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 09:08 Praetorial wrote:On April 10 2013 09:05 kainzero wrote: i like thresh, his kit is so creative. i don't even play him but it's fun to play against him, even.
it's kinda funny how riot was like "wahhhhh we don't want to make support champions" and they release nami specifically as support and she's underwhelming, then bam here comes thresh with and he's super strong.. Didn't they design him as a support, though? i always thought they just designed him with a cool kit and it turned out that he's good at support hooks are hooks lantern is really unique flay is a standard displace (like say, draven) passive is a steroid semi-tanky stats in the meantime, nami's kit just screams support. and nothing else. passive helps other people move faster aqua prison aoe is shitty and can't clear waves, only designed to hit other heroes ebb and flow is a funky bounce heal with terrible AP scaling and you can't use the bounce mechanic in a solo lane (or jungle) blessing also has terrible AP scaling and seems more designed to help others as opposed to yourself I like thresh a lot because his skillcap seems super high. Like OGN Thresh or Edward thresh is like a completely different champion in a way that I have not seen in even top tier mid lane play it just seems funny to compare the 2 supports that are released based on kit Blessing ap ratio is good. Keep in mind it's per hit. Her solo laning is pretty bad but so is thresh from what I've seen
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On April 10 2013 09:39 Drium wrote: Akali was at 50% win rate in solo queue and irrelevant to competitive play better nerf her.
Olaf was 49-48, and he got nerfed to karma level. He was already mediocre in soloq, and went from mediocre to basically worthless.
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Does this mean we can't talk about how SC2 is an inferior eSport any more?
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Lets not twist the facts pre nerf olaf was retarded. They just nerfed every single peice of his kit as opposed to touching it up. Som
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On April 10 2013 09:50 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 09:39 Drium wrote: Akali was at 50% win rate in solo queue and irrelevant to competitive play better nerf her. Olaf was 49-48, and he got nerfed to karma level. He was already mediocre in soloq, and went from mediocre to basically worthless. That was a straight up pro level nerf, he was First pick/ban status in most games. He got over-nerfed but I can't say I wasn't sick of seeing him being played.
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On April 10 2013 10:04 Slusher wrote: Lets not twist the facts pre nerf olaf was retarded. They just nerfed every single peice of his kit as opposed to touching it up. Som Everybody was stacking health at the time, Warmogs first item before boots every game. They nerfed Olaf the same pathc they nerfed Warmogs. Then they nerfed Warmogs some more. And they forgot about Olaf.
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lol; these akali nerfs. 35 fucking seconds on her ulti charge, and she doesn't even get a charge when she instantly turns 6. There goes Akali's laning phase; not like she had much of one anyways.
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