Too bad ESPN didn't get the memo that it is the year 2013...
http://deadspin.com/espns-chris-broussard-says-being-gay-is-an-open-rebel-484708467
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dirtydurb82
United States178 Posts
Too bad ESPN didn't get the memo that it is the year 2013... http://deadspin.com/espns-chris-broussard-says-being-gay-is-an-open-rebel-484708467 | ||
SwedishHero
Sweden869 Posts
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Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On April 30 2013 22:22 SwedishHero wrote: I wonder in which lockerroom he will change and which showerroom he will shower in. And this is not a joke. Its not like Iam allowed to shower with girls. And I wouldnt want gay men to shower in the same showerroom as me. And I have absolutely nothing against gay men/women. Well given that he's always used his team's locker room, he's going to keep using it. Several players have already said that being paranoid about changing around a gay dude is stupid. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On April 30 2013 11:56 Sermokala wrote: I was quite disipointed by this. Jackie Robinson (first black athlete in US sports with white people) was a superstar in the prime of his career when he strove forward race relations in this nation. He was spat on and insulted by every other team and the fans across the nation. This guy is going to cash in greatly, never have to play another game again in his life, received a phone call from the president, and will be able to push out of the business anyone who says an odd word to him now, all from day 1 of coming out at the end of anything public that he had to do in his life. But of course they're the same thing for civil rights in america. Edit: I'm not trying to take anything away from the guy, he obviously made the best decision he could ever have made. Being in the NBA for that long takes a ton of talent, work ethic, and skill. I just don't see the real difference between him and the other retired openly gay professional athletes that have come out over the years when their career was over. The guy simply isn't an active Athlete in a major american sport. First, this is like saying you're disappointed because "Rosa Parks was just a nobody. Who cares how she was treated on a bus?" I think it's actually more critical that Collins is a non-superstar athlete because it'll show more about people's character in how they treat him. If he were a superstar, people acquiesce to him no matter what, even hiding their homophobia. Because he's not a great player nor is he essential, people's true feelings are more likely to be revealed. I've heard people talk about him "cashing in" on a book deal or something. He's made $30+ million playing basketball and he'll make 1.35m if he gets another year. He may be doing it for publicity, but I don't think money is his motivation. The difference is that he's not retired. His career might be dwindling, but he has the chance to play for another year or two and make millions more dollars. It's less of a risk than someone in their prime coming out, but that's exactly why they don't. To date, I think this is the biggest risk a gay athlete has ever taken in coming out publicly. It might not be big enough for your liking, but your liking kind of sucks. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On April 30 2013 22:32 Klondikebar wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2013 22:22 SwedishHero wrote: I wonder in which lockerroom he will change and which showerroom he will shower in. And this is not a joke. Its not like Iam allowed to shower with girls. And I wouldnt want gay men to shower in the same showerroom as me. And I have absolutely nothing against gay men/women. Well given that he's always used his team's locker room, he's going to keep using it. Several players have already said that being paranoid about changing around a gay dude is stupid. I think athletes/teammates are less homophobic than the fans. | ||
KwarK
United States40779 Posts
On April 30 2013 22:22 SwedishHero wrote: I wonder in which lockerroom he will change and which showerroom he will shower in. And this is not a joke. Its not like Iam allowed to shower with girls. And I wouldnt want gay men to shower in the same showerroom as me. And I have absolutely nothing against gay men/women. You're not allowed to shower with girls because you're not a girl. Gay men aren't girls either. | ||
Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On April 30 2013 11:56 Sermokala wrote: I was quite disipointed by this. Jackie Robinson (first black athlete in US sports with white people) was a superstar in the prime of his career when he strove forward race relations in this nation. He was spat on and insulted by every other team and the fans across the nation. This guy is going to cash in greatly, never have to play another game again in his life, received a phone call from the president, and will be able to push out of the business anyone who says an odd word to him now, all from day 1 of coming out at the end of anything public that he had to do in his life. But of course they're the same thing for civil rights in america. Edit: I'm not trying to take anything away from the guy, he obviously made the best decision he could ever have made. Being in the NBA for that long takes a ton of talent, work ethic, and skill. I just don't see the real difference between him and the other retired openly gay professional athletes that have come out over the years when their career was over. The guy simply isn't an active Athlete in a major american sport. By definition, he is active. He's a free agent. Just because he currently isn't with a team doesn't mean you need to be a dick about it. | ||
Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On April 30 2013 22:20 Yuljan wrote: Honestly I dont know why any heterosexual guy would insult gay guys. They are fucking great. Every gay guy means more girls left for the rest of us. If you ever need a good wingman, give me a call. On April 30 2013 22:32 Klondikebar wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2013 22:22 SwedishHero wrote: I wonder in which lockerroom he will change and which showerroom he will shower in. And this is not a joke. Its not like Iam allowed to shower with girls. And I wouldnt want gay men to shower in the same showerroom as me. And I have absolutely nothing against gay men/women. Well given that he's always used his team's locker room, he's going to keep using it. Several players have already said that being paranoid about changing around a gay dude is stupid. Being attracted to men myself, I learned very easily how to learn how to deal with situations such as this. In a locker room, there is nothing that is meant to be sexual, yes there are other naked guys but you do not feel arousal because the purpose is to change, not to relieve sexual tension. When you are naked with another guy in bed or looking at porn, you feel arousal because that is exactly what you are suppose to do in such a situation. Also, please treat us as men, not as women. | ||
Thrill
2599 Posts
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SwedishHero
Sweden869 Posts
On April 30 2013 22:32 Klondikebar wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2013 22:22 SwedishHero wrote: I wonder in which lockerroom he will change and which showerroom he will shower in. And this is not a joke. Its not like Iam allowed to shower with girls. And I wouldnt want gay men to shower in the same showerroom as me. And I have absolutely nothing against gay men/women. Well given that he's always used his team's locker room, he's going to keep using it. Several players have already said that being paranoid about changing around a gay dude is stupid. It may be so, that he will still change,shower etc with all the other players. How would the gay community react if a heterosexual player finds it inappropriate ? Would they instantly label him as homophobe? Why dont women and men , girls and boys shower together? Is it because one has a penis and the other a vagina? No, its because of sexuality. Atleast I think thats why. I just find it to be interesting to think about | ||
SgtCoDFish
United Kingdom1520 Posts
On April 30 2013 22:37 Shiragaku wrote: Being attracted to men myself, I learned very easily how to learn how to deal with situations such as this. In a locker room, there is nothing that is meant to be sexual, yes there are other naked guys but you do not feel arousal because the purpose is to change, not to relieve sexual tension. When you are naked with another guy in bed or looking at porn, you feel arousal because that is exactly what you are suppose to do in such a situation. Exactly; I wish more straight guys who bring up the locker room thing knew how it feels. I feel awkward in the guy's changing room and I'd feel just as awkward in the lady's. Especially when people know you're not straight. After sports lessons in school I wished I could just disappear or magically change back into my school uniform. Gay/bi people get brought up in a school environment where "gay" and "faggot" are used as insults all the time, often in communities where they're shunned and people think they're ogling everyone in the room. Not to say there aren't guy's who'd sneak a peek and appreciate in a changing room, there certainly are, just how there are millions of straight men who'd do the same if they were in a women's changing room. | ||
SwedishHero
Sweden869 Posts
On April 30 2013 22:37 Shiragaku wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2013 22:20 Yuljan wrote: Honestly I dont know why any heterosexual guy would insult gay guys. They are fucking great. Every gay guy means more girls left for the rest of us. If you ever need a good wingman, give me a call. Show nested quote + On April 30 2013 22:32 Klondikebar wrote: On April 30 2013 22:22 SwedishHero wrote: I wonder in which lockerroom he will change and which showerroom he will shower in. And this is not a joke. Its not like Iam allowed to shower with girls. And I wouldnt want gay men to shower in the same showerroom as me. And I have absolutely nothing against gay men/women. Well given that he's always used his team's locker room, he's going to keep using it. Several players have already said that being paranoid about changing around a gay dude is stupid. Being attracted to men myself, I learned very easily how to learn how to deal with situations such as this. In a locker room, there is nothing that is meant to be sexual, yes there are other naked guys but you do not feel arousal because the purpose is to change, not to relieve sexual tension. When you are naked with another guy in bed or looking at porn, you feel arousal because that is exactly what you are suppose to do in such a situation. Also, please treat us as men, not as women. Hi ! Yes, But that is your personal experience and opinion. If I would shower with girls naked I wouldnt get hard aswell but I sure would look at that ass very different from a guys, or the breast, or the face. Hell I would be a happy man and shower a lot more and longer then usual. If iam at a caffe i look at hot girls walking by thinking "damn she was nice", I dont do that about guys. Its a big difference, at least for me, being naked infront of a girl than a guy. But hey, we are all different. I love all people. | ||
Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On April 30 2013 22:37 Shiragaku wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2013 22:20 Yuljan wrote: Honestly I dont know why any heterosexual guy would insult gay guys. They are fucking great. Every gay guy means more girls left for the rest of us. If you ever need a good wingman, give me a call. Show nested quote + On April 30 2013 22:32 Klondikebar wrote: On April 30 2013 22:22 SwedishHero wrote: I wonder in which lockerroom he will change and which showerroom he will shower in. And this is not a joke. Its not like Iam allowed to shower with girls. And I wouldnt want gay men to shower in the same showerroom as me. And I have absolutely nothing against gay men/women. Well given that he's always used his team's locker room, he's going to keep using it. Several players have already said that being paranoid about changing around a gay dude is stupid. Being attracted to men myself, I learned very easily how to learn how to deal with situations such as this. In a locker room, there is nothing that is meant to be sexual, yes there are other naked guys but you do not feel arousal because the purpose is to change, not to relieve sexual tension. When you are naked with another guy in bed or looking at porn, you feel arousal because that is exactly what you are suppose to do in such a situation. Also, please treat us as men, not as women. Also gaydar is more effective than people think. It's rare for me to be attracted to a straight guy without a lot of alcohol or unless they're intentionally leading me on. I could change in a locker room full of straight guys without batting an eye. | ||
Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On April 30 2013 22:44 SwedishHero wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2013 22:37 Shiragaku wrote: On April 30 2013 22:20 Yuljan wrote: Honestly I dont know why any heterosexual guy would insult gay guys. They are fucking great. Every gay guy means more girls left for the rest of us. If you ever need a good wingman, give me a call. On April 30 2013 22:32 Klondikebar wrote: On April 30 2013 22:22 SwedishHero wrote: I wonder in which lockerroom he will change and which showerroom he will shower in. And this is not a joke. Its not like Iam allowed to shower with girls. And I wouldnt want gay men to shower in the same showerroom as me. And I have absolutely nothing against gay men/women. Well given that he's always used his team's locker room, he's going to keep using it. Several players have already said that being paranoid about changing around a gay dude is stupid. Being attracted to men myself, I learned very easily how to learn how to deal with situations such as this. In a locker room, there is nothing that is meant to be sexual, yes there are other naked guys but you do not feel arousal because the purpose is to change, not to relieve sexual tension. When you are naked with another guy in bed or looking at porn, you feel arousal because that is exactly what you are suppose to do in such a situation. Also, please treat us as men, not as women. Hi ! Yes, But that is your personal experience and opinion. If I would shower with girls naked I wouldnt get hard aswell but I sure would look at that ass very different from a guys, or the breast, or the face. Hell I would be a happy man and shower a lot more and longer then usual. If iam at a caffe i look at hot girls walking by thinking "damn she was nice", I dont do that about guys. Its a big difference, at least for me, being naked infront of a girl than a guy. But hey, we are all different. I love all people. In that case, all I have to tell you is to be less perverted and grow up a little. | ||
0x64
Finland4401 Posts
On April 30 2013 11:47 DannyJ wrote: Too bad he's essentially an absolute nobody. Why not even say: "Too bad he's gay", that would have been even remotely funny | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On April 30 2013 22:56 Klondikebar wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2013 22:37 Shiragaku wrote: On April 30 2013 22:20 Yuljan wrote: Honestly I dont know why any heterosexual guy would insult gay guys. They are fucking great. Every gay guy means more girls left for the rest of us. If you ever need a good wingman, give me a call. On April 30 2013 22:32 Klondikebar wrote: On April 30 2013 22:22 SwedishHero wrote: I wonder in which lockerroom he will change and which showerroom he will shower in. And this is not a joke. Its not like Iam allowed to shower with girls. And I wouldnt want gay men to shower in the same showerroom as me. And I have absolutely nothing against gay men/women. Well given that he's always used his team's locker room, he's going to keep using it. Several players have already said that being paranoid about changing around a gay dude is stupid. Being attracted to men myself, I learned very easily how to learn how to deal with situations such as this. In a locker room, there is nothing that is meant to be sexual, yes there are other naked guys but you do not feel arousal because the purpose is to change, not to relieve sexual tension. When you are naked with another guy in bed or looking at porn, you feel arousal because that is exactly what you are suppose to do in such a situation. Also, please treat us as men, not as women. Also gaydar is more effective than people think. It's rare for me to be attracted to a straight guy without a lot of alcohol or unless they're intentionally leading me on. I could change in a locker room full of straight guys without batting an eye. Rare for you, not necessarily rare for plenty of other gay guys though. | ||
SwedishHero
Sweden869 Posts
On April 30 2013 22:57 Shiragaku wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2013 22:44 SwedishHero wrote: On April 30 2013 22:37 Shiragaku wrote: On April 30 2013 22:20 Yuljan wrote: Honestly I dont know why any heterosexual guy would insult gay guys. They are fucking great. Every gay guy means more girls left for the rest of us. If you ever need a good wingman, give me a call. On April 30 2013 22:32 Klondikebar wrote: On April 30 2013 22:22 SwedishHero wrote: I wonder in which lockerroom he will change and which showerroom he will shower in. And this is not a joke. Its not like Iam allowed to shower with girls. And I wouldnt want gay men to shower in the same showerroom as me. And I have absolutely nothing against gay men/women. Well given that he's always used his team's locker room, he's going to keep using it. Several players have already said that being paranoid about changing around a gay dude is stupid. Being attracted to men myself, I learned very easily how to learn how to deal with situations such as this. In a locker room, there is nothing that is meant to be sexual, yes there are other naked guys but you do not feel arousal because the purpose is to change, not to relieve sexual tension. When you are naked with another guy in bed or looking at porn, you feel arousal because that is exactly what you are suppose to do in such a situation. Also, please treat us as men, not as women. Hi ! Yes, But that is your personal experience and opinion. If I would shower with girls naked I wouldnt get hard aswell but I sure would look at that ass very different from a guys, or the breast, or the face. Hell I would be a happy man and shower a lot more and longer then usual. If iam at a caffe i look at hot girls walking by thinking "damn she was nice", I dont do that about guys. Its a big difference, at least for me, being naked infront of a girl than a guy. But hey, we are all different. I love all people. In that case, all I have to tell you is to be less perverted and grow up a little. That was a very silly comment of you to make. Iam perverted because I love the female body? And because I admire it? | ||
SwedishHero
Sweden869 Posts
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subvn
16 Posts
On April 30 2013 22:22 SwedishHero wrote: I wonder in which lockerroom he will change and which showerroom he will shower in. And this is not a joke. Its not like Iam allowed to shower with girls. And I wouldnt want gay men to shower in the same showerroom as me. And I have absolutely nothing against gay men/women. Couldn't care less what kind of sexuality men in a showerroom have and to be honest as a heterosexual man I would be offended if a gay person wouldn't at least sneak a peek to see how I am "built". | ||
eburnsdaniel
United Kingdom69 Posts
I'm not someone who has ever seen or had any interest in watching a game of basketball but isn't it different to most other sports in a very obvious way? When you talk about specific sports a body shape often emerges. This is because that shape is what is most bio mechanically efficient. So when you have a sport where the average height is 6'8" or whatever it is then you can do a bit of math. What is the bell curve of height? people that height are extraordinarily rare. The fact the sport selects for something specific that is so rare suggests that height confers a direct advantage and one that is almost unassailable. Could it be that this guy, or the English NBA guy who came out before him are gay guys who just happen to be unusually tall rather than conventional athletes who happen to be gay? Again I ask this as a question without judging because I have never seen a game of basketball and don't dispute that they were great basketballers only the agenda that a lack of 'out' male athletes is necessarily indicative of something sinister. | ||
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