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Canada10915 Posts
We don't think you have zero interest in the community.
Why is it assumed that I don't have an interest in the community?
The whole reason I promote what I do is to gain access to that community and give the opportunity to connect with me. But this is rather telling. Your interest in our community is fairly focused on what you can get from us. We have eyeballs and you want them. On TL, it matters how you go about things. If your only interaction in our community is promoting yourself and what you do, then yes. You will be viewed much more poorly and we will not think you have much interest in us. More like a leach or a parasite, if you will. Whereas, if you come into our community and be a part of it and then do the exact same stream/ advert, the perception will be entirely different. Why? Because you have become one of us rather than just trying to use us.
I also think it's funny how you bring up the Day9 as a similarity, then when people tell you how Day9 was entirely different, you get annoyed about people bringing up Day9.
Basically, you came into our community, guns blazing, promoting your stuff. You didn't figure out who we are and what we are about. And then you turn around and be douchey to a couple mods, when you were in the wrong because you didn't do your homework.
Now, I suspect it's just overzealousness/ overeagerness, but I think it's time to back down, put in some grunt work in becoming a part of us and making a great stream. In my opinion you've made yourself known on TL in the worst possible way, but I think it's salvageable... if you don't keep playing this defensive, victim stuff. Suck it up that you didn't do your homework and make the best of a bad job.
My 2 cents. Take it or leave it. But trying to butt heads with mods (even by trying to parse it with, not all mods, just THOSE mods) isn't going to get you anywhere.
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On April 16 2014 10:21 tofucake wrote:Your attitude towards TL is not correct. You don't gain access to the users by streaming. You gain access by engaging. You aren't doing that. Take this, for example: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/444269-ragetv-fvckin-invitational-tournament?page=2#23opterown is one of the most active calendar people we have and you just blow his post off. You don't acknowledge him at all, you just keep posting "round x is starting come watch me". You never promote discussion, you just post details and then demand attention.
lol at this point you're just hating.
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I think you guys are misunderstanding for the sake of misunderstanding.
When I said it allows the opportunity to connect with me, it really does, they can chat with me on the stream. That is the BEST way to get to know me because I can engage them directly. I don't come on the TL forums unless I'm posting about a major event on the stream.
AS I've said before, it seems you guys don't care about the knowledge of when that stream is happening, but rather how much I talk on the forums. I'm sorry that I don't make it a routine to do so, because I wasn't aware that was wanted. I'm NEW (do I need to stress this again) and didn't understand how you did things here. I have a basic understanding on other forums, however this one IS different.
That being said, I didn't do anything but make a mistake about how things are run here, I haven't commited any major crime here that would or should condemn me and put me in this magic shit pile that you want me to be in. I'm going to move forward and try to do things differently, you can keep hating if you want but as I said before, I didn't start this by being a prick, I just made a few mistakes, that's it. YOU guys are the ones up in arms about the mistakes as if I did it just to spite you or something, I did not.
So, moving forward...
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the Dagon Knight3990 Posts
On April 16 2014 11:57 Rageypoo wrote: That being said, I didn't do anything but make a mistake about how things are run here, I haven't commited any major crime here that would or should condemn me and put me in this magic shit pile that you want me to be in. I'm going to move forward and try to do things differently, you can keep hating if you want but as I said before, I didn't start this by being a prick, I just made a few mistakes, that's it. YOU guys are the ones up in arms about the mistakes as if I did it just to spite you or something, I did not.
In fairness, the people you describe as being "up in arms" are guilty of being, at worst, a little brusque.
By contrast, you responded by repeatedly calling people "pricks." Can you not see why people might not have a positive impression of you from this?
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Braavos36362 Posts
I feel that the reason you keep getting responses here is that while you want others to "move forward," your replies keep containing very thinly veiled, passive aggressive insults. Just about every single one of your posts have these, so people feel compelled to keep arguing with you and have a negative opinion about you. An approach without the justifications, excuses, insults and general arguing would have been received a lot better.
Ending your posts with "keep hating if you want" and accusing others of being pricks / up in arms then immediately saying "moving forward" as if you want the last word on the matter isn't going to stop people from replying to you, if anything it's just going to encourage more people to argue with you.
It's like someone yelling "well I think we were both kinda wrong, but mostly YOU, now let's never speak of this again." Of course people are not going to "move forward" when you talk like that.
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Hyrule18778 Posts
I pointed out an example of why you're not getting much out of TL and told you how you could correct it. That isn't hating, it's called constructive criticism.
And you've said you want to only interact with people from your stream, but you're not showing TL that you know how to interact at all, so there's not really any reason for them to check out your stream. Combine that with the widely held opinion that stream chats are mostly useless spam pits and you might see why nobody cares.
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United States22154 Posts
Why the thread was closed was explained, no further discussion is needed, and the discussion is starting to go in circles. So on that note, I'm locking this thread.
I hope you all have a fantastic day.
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