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Count9
China10928 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On May 20 2014 06:06 Count9 wrote: puff samus is also like... 99-1 matchup. meh, more like 65-35 samus has charge shot and ok-ish anti-airs also if you get ridiculous grabs like Duck you can do pretty well : ofc you have to wavedash out of shield and such to play vs puff pressure lol | ||
Airking990
United States193 Posts
On May 20 2014 02:48 ]343[ wrote: also mix in tomahawks (instead of landing with an aerial, land without doing anything, wait for the spotdodge, and grab him/do some other move to punish). samus with no l-cancelling is vaguely believable, but samus with no wavedashing?? how does he space? how does he even move? /appalled i'm assuming the person plays casually... | ||
lycheejello
United States59 Posts
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
On May 20 2014 10:07 lycheejello wrote: Is chain grabbing frowned upon during friendlies? hahaha yes. I do this with falco in brawl with his downward throw and its hilarious | ||
Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
On May 20 2014 10:07 lycheejello wrote: Is chain grabbing frowned upon during friendlies? not to me... if you think i'm waiting for tournaments to practice chaingrabbing with DI you're crazy | ||
puppykiller
United States3125 Posts
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Count9
China10928 Posts
On May 20 2014 06:20 ]343[ wrote: meh, more like 65-35 samus has charge shot and ok-ish anti-airs also if you get ridiculous grabs like Duck you can do pretty well : ofc you have to wavedash out of shield and such to play vs puff pressure lol i dunno... it feels harder than sheik samus tbh and that match up is at least 65-35. I think it's the hardest match up that isn't literally impossible. Granted, roy shiek is supposed to be literally impossible and I've seen people lose that. Which segues well into my next point. Set aside some time to practice your fucking chain grabs. You're gonna meet that one guy at locals who sucks but doesn't agree to no chain grabs in a shiek ditto and roll you when you're starting out, it's not worth the grief. Especially if you play a mid tier character. Ganon should be chain grabbing shiek whenever he can, same with mario, and everyone can chaingrab fox cause fox. Practice the super cheap stuff cause it's better you know it and don't use it than not knowing it and can't use it. Also, don't underestimate people with no tech. The whole purpose of tech skill is so you can make your character do optimal things in a given situation. Spamming wave lands on platforms above a marth cause it's fun is the worst thing you can possibly do yet people do it cause they just learned how to waveland. At the end of the day this game is all about spacing and reading, tech skill just gives you more options to get good spacing or punish good reads. | ||
rabidch
United States20287 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
ofc I haven't really played many spacies who are my level (either they do a lot of punishable "shield pressure" or are way better than me), so I have no idea how scared I should be of them | ||
layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
also my friend has had melee less than a week and he is trying to learn it to a high standard and i am not sure the best things to be telling him to focus on or who to play at the start. For the most part i was showing him tech skill and then going slightly KO mad with power He is pretty used to fighting games and he reached a pretty high level in street fighter 4. | ||
Count9
China10928 Posts
I'd have your friend try out falco, his shine combos are pretty similar to "regular" FGC combos. Still start with the tech things everyone starts with though: shffl across stage with all your moves, max wd distance, wd oos as fast as possible, cut down on lag after landing, platform manuverability, and ledge teching, in that order imo. Then it's just stringing together the tech into combos but that kinda just naturally happens. | ||
layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
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rabidch
United States20287 Posts
worst matchups are sheik puff and falcon. i dont have as much problems with marth and peach except for my tendency to get hit by predictable fsmashes which happens to me regardless of my character | ||
Spazer
Canada8025 Posts
That said, it'd be really nice if streams like vgbc and whatnot got added to the featured streamers or something. I think Ken and KDJ are the only two smash streams featured on TL so far. | ||
DanceSC
United States751 Posts
I know general what melee is, but project M I am completely new to. | ||
phathom321
United States1730 Posts
Here is the tier list for the other games. | ||
Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
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BrTarolg
United Kingdom3574 Posts
His primary focus is never, EVER dropping a chaingrab until the full 90% and he has all the followups from that covered too :-/ From that 0-90%, he will then usmash, fair or bair for the kill It's pretty brutral | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36362 Posts
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