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On November 09 2014 10:48 Kyuukyuu wrote: Is it possible to short hop OOS with the c-stick? how do you jump with the c-stick in melee? | ||
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Yomi-no-Kuni
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On November 17 2014 16:38 BlackPride wrote: when i do a shine underneath the platform and then jump cancel it to a waveland on the platform for when they're in shield or some shit on the platform, if there is no character i can do it perfectly almost ever time. However, when i do hit a character i always get stuck in shine. Is this normal and how can i get around it? quite normal. If you hit a character with any attack, you will be in hitlag for a littlebit, meaning you need to delay your actions a little bit longer. Depending on what you hit, you will have different amounts of Hitlag! E.g.: Hitting a crate has different hitlag from hitting a character, which is still different from hitting a character with Star, which is also different from hitting someones shield. That's also why MultiShines on someones shield are "harder" than doing them without contact, and why practicing L-cancel on a target is more usefull than just practicing it without an opponent! (Best way to practice L-canceling is on different targets, so you get used to L-cancel independently from when you perform your aerial/fastfall! (because you can actually jump to early if you hit on shield) I've got a question now, partly to mods: I started Streaming last week, I've been streaming several hours daily. (except yesterday) I am practicing Melee and PM, and i'm doing tutorials and analysis for different things. Can I advertise the stream in this subcategory, and may I create a thread for it? I'm really hoping to get this stream going, but I'd love to have intelligent discussions on there, so I'd love to have more TLers around there, but I'm not sure wether i'm allowed to do that on here (I only ask here, because everywhere else I feel "important" enough to actually do what I want, here I don't want to step on peoples toes, because I've always been more of a lurker) as an example, I've been messing around with charizard stuff this saturday, trying to figure out some frame data and exported some of it to YT. This is not supposed to be promoting my stream yet, this is just me sharing knowledge as I always do, and I'd be creating a thread for these analyses once they're mostly finished anyway! | ||
BlackPride
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also thanks for the answer, thats what i assumed but i was hoping it was different. really annoying to have to train my hands to do a different timing depending on the character..... | ||
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On November 19 2014 06:28 BlackPride wrote: not a mod, but i don't have a problem with it. maybe not here in this particular thread unless it is pertaining to a certain question, but if you have valuable information to offer the community, why not promote it somewhere it is relevant? also thanks for the answer, thats what i assumed but i was hoping it was different. really annoying to have to train my hands to do a different timing depending on the character..... It's not different for characters, it's only different for different states/objects | ||
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If you want to create a forum thread about interesting things you're discovering, you can do that; but if it's just to advertise your stream / talk about it, maybe a blog would be better? If you just have some disconnected things you want to discuss, this thread (or the SSBM General Discussion thread; maybe you could start a SSBPM General Discussion thread if you'd like) might be fine. | ||
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On November 19 2014 15:39 puppykiller wrote: I am having trouble playing as fox versus my roomates Ice climbers. I am not sure how to deal with him shield grabbing me when I go in for attacks. How am I supposed to approach? All he does is wave dash around and wobble and down smash. Check this out: | ||
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@fox vs ICs matchup check out this video from Do you fox wid it? SFAT where dismantles Fly | ||
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l-cancel. shine. ??? profit edit: also fastfall your aerial so there's less time between when you hit their shield and when you can l-cancel. trying to land behind them (crossing them up) is also really good. | ||
Yomi-no-Kuni
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that means either overshooting (or crossing up, as far as I know the official term in smash is overshooting your aerials though) or spacing away from people. Fox and falco can pressure people without shines by doing spaced backairs. Its how you destroy wierd spacies matchups. M2K used to do only spaced and autocanceled bairs in teams (like spam FJ Bair alls match) yeah, i'm hungover and can't really explain very well right now, if you need more help on what "spacing" is, tell me, there's guides and stuff out there | ||
OnceKing
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depending on the situation it may be better to do the last second nair shine (for fox) into whatever (shine grab, double shine, fade back aerial) or to try and space fade back bairs instead. (for these it helps if you use the c-stick to aerial) | ||
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