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Ok, this was interesting. But he didn't really win, more like managed to push off defeat for a while. But nice try vs a whole group.
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I mean its not just dc who does that, just about every comic book hero or villian that is pretty much vanilla human has something absurd, be it batman and Stark having absurd amounts of money and time and insanely smart (they use it in massively different ways of course) because with out super powers only the most exceptional at something can really have a chance.
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Deathstroke is not an ordinary human. He is a Meta.
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On December 13 2014 09:26 -Archangel- wrote: Deathstroke is not an ordinary human. He is a Meta. Deathstroke is a drug enhanced human. Same kind of thing as Captain America.
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And that makes him a meta.
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metahuman was only introduced in the shows for all the people getting powers by the star labs incident I think, but Deathstroke is peak human like Cap in Marvel.
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AFAIK Captain isn't a meta. He, just as Batman, is a human with the highest achievable human fitness. (yeah, peak human like said above). I don't know about Deathstroke though. Either way, Flash would own anyone non-mentahuman, just as Spider-Man would splatter Batman into a mist of blood, guts and bones, etc...
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On December 13 2014 19:01 AsnSensation wrote: metahuman was only introduced in the shows for all the people getting powers by the star labs incident I think, but Deathstroke is peak human like Cap in Marvel. Metahuman is a term from the comics that is given to anyone that can perform beyond human limits. It is DC comics special name. Deathstroke has beyond human strength, speed, regeneration and apparently can use 90% of his brain (although statement that we use only 10% of our brain has been proven false).
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On December 13 2014 19:17 Zax19 wrote: AFAIK Captain isn't a meta. He, just as Batman, is a human with the highest achievable human fitness. (yeah, peak human like said above). I don't know about Deathstroke though. Either way, Flash would own anyone non-mentahuman, just as Spider-Man would splatter Batman into a mist of blood, guts and bones, etc... I don't think that is true. Captain is capable of bigger feats of strength than batman and heals much faster.
And Flash has lost to multiple non-metas, while Batman has defeated multiple Metas including Superman and whole Justice League.
If batman would meet spiderman for first time he would maybe lose but if he knew of spiderman from before, spiderman has no chance vs batman especially because spiderman is cocky and chaotic.
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And arrowed showed clearly how easy it is to get "young" flash, of course he will gain experience but he is still running into traps where his speed is not enough.
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On December 13 2014 19:26 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 19:17 Zax19 wrote: AFAIK Captain isn't a meta. He, just as Batman, is a human with the highest achievable human fitness. (yeah, peak human like said above). I don't know about Deathstroke though. Either way, Flash would own anyone non-mentahuman, just as Spider-Man would splatter Batman into a mist of blood, guts and bones, etc... And Flash has lost to multiple non-metas, while Batman has defeated multiple Metas including Superman and whole Justice League. This is pretty much why it's pointless to argue with anyone - people keep quoting fights that were decided by what the writer thought, not what a specific person would be able to do (for example plot induced stupidity).
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On December 13 2014 21:04 Zax19 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 19:26 -Archangel- wrote:On December 13 2014 19:17 Zax19 wrote: AFAIK Captain isn't a meta. He, just as Batman, is a human with the highest achievable human fitness. (yeah, peak human like said above). I don't know about Deathstroke though. Either way, Flash would own anyone non-mentahuman, just as Spider-Man would splatter Batman into a mist of blood, guts and bones, etc... And Flash has lost to multiple non-metas, while Batman has defeated multiple Metas including Superman and whole Justice League. This is pretty much why it's pointless to argue with anyone - people keep quoting fights that were decided by what the writer thought, not what a specific person would be able to do (for example plot induced stupidity). Specific character can only do what the writers want. There is nothing else. They don't exist in real world and their powers cannot be calculated. If writers say character X beats character Y that is all you need.
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On December 13 2014 19:50 0x64 wrote: And arrowed showed clearly how easy it is to get "young" flash, of course he will gain experience but he is still running into traps where his speed is not enough.
But I really think they made them fight this early, because it's clear that Arrow does not stand a chance later on. So they had them fight when Barry just had 3 months experience and his powers were still really weak compared to what he will be able to do (time travel, pass through solid matter, that superspeed punch that destroys you on a molecular level, huge amount of knowledge since he can speed up his thought process and learn anything super fast).
On December 14 2014 00:57 -Archangel- wrote: Specific character can only do what the writers want. There is nothing else. They don't exist in real world and their powers cannot be calculated. If writers say character X beats character Y that is all you need.
I think just because a writer made a specific scenario where X beats Y, we can't say X is stronger than Y in a fight. Only if a writer came out and said X beats Y always or most of the time, we could say that. Otherwise we are free to look at their powers and weapons and then decide for ourselves who would win in a fight, outside of a specific scenario someone wrote.
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On December 14 2014 01:16 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 00:57 -Archangel- wrote: Specific character can only do what the writers want. There is nothing else. They don't exist in real world and their powers cannot be calculated. If writers say character X beats character Y that is all you need. I think just because a writer made a specific scenario where X beats Y, we can't say X is stronger than Y in a fight. Only if a writer came out and said X beats Y always or most of the time, we could say that. Otherwise we are free to look at their powers and weapons and then decide for ourselves who would win in a fight, outside of a specific scenario someone wrote. How does this make sense? Writer makes a comic where x beats y and that does not count, but it counts if in a interview he says x beats y?! You got it reverse. Only true cannon for anything is the material itself. If it wasn't made, or shown it is not true.
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I'm bored and i have time atm so i'm speedwatching this.
It's dumb and its kinda of a soap.. But the things i really dislike: 1 People get together and apart --> Still friends (like this is normal)... Hey Girl i had betrayed with your sister, lets not just live seperate lives.. no we get together again (kinda), then apart again, then together again (shortly), then depart again BUT I WILL ALLWAYS BE YOUR FRIEND. What the effing fuck.
. 2 FAAAAAMILY... For the FAAAAMILY.. Seriously, this constant FOR THE FAMILY stuff made me stop watching Sons of Anarchy but seriously... FAAAAMILY (i would do tons of stuff for my family, serious, my brother and my parents are holy to me, i am kinda what you would call a "family person", but the stuff that these shows pull out of their asses is just beyond ridiculous).
And one other thing... Is there an actual diffrence between Arrow and Batman in the comics? :p... Except that Batman is awesome and Arrow kinda gay?
And² his look on the Island (Island is awesome), is just badly done...
AND This show also shows how hilarious the US justice system is.. "OH! She had an affair 5 years go!"... the fuck?
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Arrow kills people, Batman does not. Batman is also much smarter.
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Really hated most of the finale. so much of the dialogue was just written poorly. Also, the whole + Show Spoiler +ras storyline felt rushed and underdeveloped. and honestly, I HATE how he's white! Why can't asian people be depicted with at least some respect? (A bit OT, but it annoys me how marvel's agents of shield also has a white "Sunil Bakshi..."
Started out hyped, but I really feel like Arrow is just going to become a place for + Show Spoiler + to do stuff. Already started to feel that way this season.
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On December 17 2014 01:43 -Archangel- wrote:
I've been without sleep for well over two days and this is the internet post that snapped my sanity and turned me into a giggling lunatic oh my god this was so funny I can't even breathe right now hahaha
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Just walked in to my wife with her head in her hands in utter shock, i went panic mode thinking something terrible had happened
"hes...hes dead :O " "wtf who?!" "the arrow"
I fucking lol'd
she gets so invested in tv programmes and suspends her belief, i dont have the heart to tell her about Lazarus pits lol. Shes really salty with recent tv/films since everyone keeps dying hahaha.
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