On May 02 2015 11:56 Pibacc wrote: I don't get why everyone is bashing Stephen Amell's acting since joining the LoA, He is supposed to be(come) an emotionless, pragmatic, ruthless leader of the League of Assassins. He shouldn't be showing a range of emotions meeting old friends, because he isn't supposed to be Oliver Queen. I think he's playing the role quite well, and I'm not sure what you guys expect from him acting-wise for his characters current situation.
Its not like his acting is much diffrent when he is supposed to be "normal"... .
I seriously hope this will not be just the boring/predictable "Oliver wasn't actually brainwashed"-Plot... And if he actually is brainwashed he should not overcome it within a few moments thru the power of friendship/Family/love....
If they come up with something nice, this could become really cool... But i highly doubt they will.
On May 01 2015 02:43 Musicus wrote: So here is what I think is going on:
Maseo's son Akio died to the virus. Afterwards Maseo made it his goal to destroy the rest of the virus that still exists, he joined the League to accomplish that. As it turns out the League itself had the virus and at some point after Oliver brought Thea to the Lazarus pit, Maseo tells Oliver about it. They plot together to destroy the virus and Oliver plays the brainwashed guy to gain trust and learn the location of the virus. So now he has the mission to destroy Starling City with the virus, but he and Maseo are planning to destroy the virus instead and then leave the league. That's also why the flashbacks are all about the virus, it all comes to down to destroying it and I think Maseo will sacrifice his life to achieve that.
Everything 100% speculation, didn't watch any videos about the coming episodes or something, but I think it would make sense. Let's see .
Interesting stuff, thanks! Tatsu could definitely be part of it, at least she should know what Maseo is doing. I'm pretty sure Oliver is in on it now, although he wasn't at the start. Not sure about Merlyn's part. Although it wasn't the strongest season, the finish is getting exciting .
On May 02 2015 11:56 Pibacc wrote: I don't get why everyone is bashing Stephen Amell's acting since joining the LoA, He is supposed to be(come) an emotionless, pragmatic, ruthless leader of the League of Assassins. He shouldn't be showing a range of emotions meeting old friends, because he isn't supposed to be Oliver Queen. I think he's playing the role quite well, and I'm not sure what you guys expect from him acting-wise for his characters current situation.
Its not like his acting is much diffrent when he is supposed to be "normal"... .
I seriously hope this will not be just the boring/predictable "Oliver wasn't actually brainwashed"-Plot... And if he actually is brainwashed he should not overcome it within a few moments thru the power of friendship/Family/love....
If they come up with something nice, this could become really cool... But i highly doubt they will.
Maybe he will require a kiss like any proper sleeping princess?
On May 01 2015 02:43 Musicus wrote: So here is what I think is going on:
Maseo's son Akio died to the virus. Afterwards Maseo made it his goal to destroy the rest of the virus that still exists, he joined the League to accomplish that. As it turns out the League itself had the virus and at some point after Oliver brought Thea to the Lazarus pit, Maseo tells Oliver about it. They plot together to destroy the virus and Oliver plays the brainwashed guy to gain trust and learn the location of the virus. So now he has the mission to destroy Starling City with the virus, but he and Maseo are planning to destroy the virus instead and then leave the league. That's also why the flashbacks are all about the virus, it all comes to down to destroying it and I think Maseo will sacrifice his life to achieve that.
Everything 100% speculation, didn't watch any videos about the coming episodes or something, but I think it would make sense. Let's see .
Interesting stuff, thanks! Tatsu could definitely be part of it, at least she should know what Maseo is doing. I'm pretty sure Oliver is in on it now, although he wasn't at the start. Not sure about Merlyn's part. Although it wasn't the strongest season, the finish is getting exciting .
You're welcome! That's definitely possible about Oliver. Will see soon who-knows-who-and-who-knows-what! lol xD I agree, they are wrapping up this season really well despite the overall season being lackluster.The flashback story line has been keeping it interesting for me so it'll be fun to see, with all the fan speculations going on, how it all turns out.
On May 07 2015 13:00 Orcasgt24 wrote: So everyone is dead now. Umm WTF!
lol Not even. They've been releasing the promos for next week's episodes right away after the current one finishes airing. Kills the suspension, it's like cliffhangers are a thing of the past. Kinda sad but oh well. Click here if you want to see it.
As someone said, probably sleeping gas, and I'm assuming switched out by Oliver. Such a good episode. The show is really turning around and getting me excited for next season. I'm just a little sad the Maseo theory didn't pan out. I was so sure of it. haha! And btw...+ Show Spoiler +
his death scene was an avalanche of feels. It was cool seeing Tatsu as Katana, though.
No a good episode or a good season. They made Ras into a biggest idiot this season. The whole story arc of wanting to make Oliver new Ras was terrible. I hope next season they get new writers.
On May 08 2015 01:21 -Archangel- wrote: No a good episode or a good season. They made Ras into a biggest idiot this season. The whole story arc of wanting to make Oliver new Ras was terrible. I hope next season they get new writers.
YA I kinda agree. The Leauge of ASSASSINS sure does take alot of prisoners....
On May 08 2015 01:21 -Archangel- wrote: No a good episode or a good season. They made Ras into a biggest idiot this season. The whole story arc of wanting to make Oliver new Ras was terrible. I hope next season they get new writers.
I don't know i thought the season was ok until episode 9 which was a really damn good episode but everything after that has been terrible and a lot of the stuff is just not believable. Ra's was portrayed well earlier as this wise, strong and mysterious dude but turns out he's an idiot and living hundreds of years apparently makes you gullible as fuck.
unlike the vast majority i didn't find fault with ra al ghul's character. i thought the character was well developed and they transitioned well with his introduction. while i do agree this season has been probably the most lackluster out of all the seasons, i thought this season finished very strong. they really captured the feeling of despair which has been missing since season 1/2 when slade pretty much gutted his mom in front of him.
Ra's is a man who has obtained everything, built his empire of elite killers from all across the globe, he can literally have anyone he wants or anything through blackmail, extortion, or mass murder. To convert a man like oliver should be a meager task to someone in that position. you cannot exclude the fact he's lived hundred's of years with the lake, this has been in his planning for many years. a person who has accomplished everything he ever desired because of his creed and dogma, is not going to betray it. therefore the logic behind someone surviving his sword shall inherit the kingdom is sound.
on another note, that reddit explanation was amazing analysis. after reading it, i can't even begin to comprehend the story going any other way than that explanation. it sounds like it hit spot on to everything that was alluded to in the story and would make maseo's death that much more meaningful. that explanation would sound so much better than the horse shit that was cooked up in season one about his mother supporting malcom merlyns plan for pressing the reset button on society.
the other thing i felt the season lacked was arsenal's participation, sure he took the fall for oliver, but everyone who considered him dead even made it more of a reason to reintroduce him into their plans for an ambush. i felt the show downplayed his mirakuru abilities, someone like him should be unstoppable especially if you are just facing swords.....
The end of the episode REALLY felt like they were trying to end the series, even though Arrow already got renewed for another season lol. Oliver's transformation has felt so strange.
Oh looks like miss information on my part June they were reading the scripts, so i would think July they were filming. So makes a bit more sense time frame wise :3
not sure if it's me but the recent episode had me "meh" kinda sad cause arrow started out as my favorite TV series, but comparing it NOW to the current Flash, Marvel, there is alot to fix. there are alot of props, gimmicks and things you just blatantly notice or are conscious of which you shouldn't be due to poor lighting, prop, set, camera angle etc that i've started TO notice.
explosive cargo being shallow and empty cause of the prop being made by bad plastic when it fell off the truck in the first scene cause of the sound it made and the way it bounced, oliver being thrown at a bus handle and denting it like plastic, the police station filming was from a very high angle so you saw all the lightning exposing the small set it was. and these are things unrelated to plot....it's just sloppy. i don't even want to sound like i'm nit picking, but i think something's up when you're trying to enjoy a show and you're made conscious of sloppy set production and filming. i don't ever notice this when i wash the flash or marvel.
as far as acting goes, speedy and laurel need A LOT of practice, even the people who get beat up by them seem far more realistic. their fighting scene just doesn't sell to me, uncoordinated, etc.