Thing is, double support doesn't work very much at rank 1-5 as far as I can tell, maybe Medivh will add something new to the table.
(won 2 today as solo heal Tyrande, one of these games the opponent went double support Rehgar+Uther)
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Leolio
France633 Posts
Thing is, double support doesn't work very much at rank 1-5 as far as I can tell, maybe Medivh will add something new to the table. (won 2 today as solo heal Tyrande, one of these games the opponent went double support Rehgar+Uther) | ||
SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On May 31 2016 22:34 Leolio wrote: I guess with Medivh the meta will switch towards double supports a lot more. Right now a lot of people want to double support, I have to explain in evey single draft that I want to solo support as Tyrande and "No, I don't want you to play your beautiful 15 € Transformer-skin Tassadar, if you want to solo heal go for it or let me have my Tyrande you damn robot. ". Thing is, double support doesn't work very much at rank 1-5 as far as I can tell, maybe Medivh will add something new to the table. (won 2 today as solo heal Tyrande, one of these games the opponent went double support Rehgar+Uther) Rehgar Uther isnt a good dual supp combo though. Dual supp usually had Tyrande or Tassadar at the basis, with a second main support. | ||
jubil
United States2602 Posts
I love playing double healer against AA as Lili, going full blind damage build. Very good sustain damage in teamfights, and blinds and healing for support. In my experience both ults can work based on the situation, too. | ||
FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
Either way, I think we will see comps with him built around going absolutely ham, with lots of melee etc to make use of his engage. Supports that can keep up with this will be the most important - that means Rehgar will be top support for Medivh, imo. | ||
Harris1st
Germany6176 Posts
On May 31 2016 23:40 Larkin wrote: Medivh isn't a support, right? He's a specialist. Despite the fact he will contribute more like a support. Either way, I think we will see comps with him built around going absolutely ham, with lots of melee etc to make use of his engage. Supports that can keep up with this will be the most important - that means Rehgar will be top support for Medivh, imo. I'm more thinking of Monk, making it sth like Medivh, Monk, Thrall, ETC/Mura/Joh and some AoE poker like KT/Luna | ||
Ej_
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
* No more silenced players * No more seeing rank 1 medic paired with rank 30 etc. * Maybe with no more silenced players, people will be less salty because silence is an actual punishment? | ||
Zambrah
United States6832 Posts
Is he best in double warrior comps with a Bruiser like Sonya or a disruptor like ETC or a straight tank like Johanna? Is he best with double support comps? Is he best with melee heavy dive comps? Any heroes he particularly excels with? | ||
Ej_
47656 Posts
he's visibly worse vs AA when you can't abuse dampen magic tho | ||
Zambrah
United States6832 Posts
Is he generally better vs. double supports or double warriors? Or is he just pretty fine vs. non-AA, bad against AA, and great against Mage as a general rule? | ||
MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On June 01 2016 05:34 Zambrah wrote: So hes more of a take-against than a build-around? Is he generally better vs. double supports or double warriors? Or is he just pretty fine vs. non-AA, bad against AA, and great against Mage as a general rule? He has good dive and good poke, so I don't think you need to build around him per-se. But many of his skills(dampen magic, cocoon) work especially well against particular types of enemies, so that's why I think of him as a counter pick. [Or at least--- a pick if you want to discourage specific types of drafting later in the draft] | ||
Zambrah
United States6832 Posts
Well I'll stick to playing him in QM for now anyways, I'll take him into HL when I know more about the 'ol Underking after actually playing him vs. a variety of heroes | ||
GeneralSnoop
United States142 Posts
On May 31 2016 22:34 Leolio wrote: I guess with Medivh the meta will switch towards double supports a lot more. Right now a lot of people want to double support, I have to explain in evey single draft that I want to solo support as Tyrande and "No, I don't want you to play your beautiful 15 € Transformer-skin Tassadar, if you want to solo heal go for it or let me have my Tyrande you damn robot. ". Thing is, double support doesn't work very much at rank 1-5 as far as I can tell, maybe Medivh will add something new to the table. (won 2 today as solo heal Tyrande, one of these games the opponent went double support Rehgar+Uther) Tyrande Tass is great though! Assuming your team isn't dumb and actually picks 2 solid teamfighting dps with some decent waveclear and a tank, I think it works at pretty much any level HL (pro idk). Nothing worse than having a tyrande tass combo and having a late pick assassin switch to az/xul/sylv/any other spec cause they don't see the "specialist" tag in your comp and therefore think that is what the team needs. Tass has good waveclear, and you just have to make due with the utility your team has elsewhere in the place of a true spec. You also can't pick nova/zer/chromie either for that reason though --- you can struggle pretty hard in lane. With so many assassins that have solid lane presence (some can waveclear pretty much instantly), its not that hard to get a good comp with tass tryande, but people love specs and cloaks so you can end up with some really bad comps as well. | ||
Valiver
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20131418/upcoming-balance-update-notes-june-2-2016-6-1-2016 Perhaps most revealing is in the developer comments: "Chromie is the type of Hero who .... is very inconsistent. She’ll always be that way to a degree, which is by design. " Sounds to me like they gave the keys over to whoever designed sgt hammer. I guess chromie will be permanently at the bottom of the winrate pile | ||
Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
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Zambrah
United States6832 Posts
She's definitely gonna be on the bottom of the pile though, heroes with ginormous skill ceilings and really high skill floors in the way Chromie is probably won't see competitive play without being able to 1-shot people in a way that makes her too good when played well enough. | ||
NonY
8716 Posts
Pocket of Time is pretty nuts, as 70% slow is on another level than 50%. Andorhal Anomaly actually becomes pretty attractive when you have Chrono Sickness. You can really ward up an area or put traps all over your back line. The 2 second stasis is not necessarily helpful, but when combined with 3 sec 50% slow, it is. But if you don't need much control or protection, then Past and Future Me is also buffed as Sand Blast is buffed. Basically, she can have a ton of utility and control while doing pretty good sustained damage and still having good burst when Dragon's Breath is available. The way she's currently played is: ineffectually chip away at tank or almost kill a back line but not quite and then go back to ineffectual chipping, while contributing nothing to anyone else's damage or safety, and dying instantly when someone gets to her. The way I want to see her played: control and safety and setting up team kills with Peer, Chrono Sickness and Slowing Sands, constantly use Sand Blast and empowered auto on the safest/easiest target, use Dragon's Breath on cooldown to clear waves, and in team fights save Dragon's Breath for a CC'd squishy target or as a finishing blow on any target. | ||
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