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On July 15 2016 10:17 MotherFox wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 10:16 Ramiz1989 wrote: Sonya is banned from Dreamhack as she has some weird double attack bug that breaks the game with Focused Attack and Follow Through as she one-shots something. Zagara's maw isn't working well, and many other things. Dreamhack is being played on a previous build of the game from my understanding. Yeah which is strange, but I know that she is globally banned.
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On July 15 2016 10:20 ThomasjServo wrote: I'm so happy Sonya is banned. I mentioned in the live thread, I would love if the teams got to do set bans too, and just take out heroes from the whole set. Would make banning more interesting to me at least. waiting for when there are more than 30 competitive heroes in the game so you could actually have more than 2 bans per side...
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On July 15 2016 10:42 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 10:17 MotherFox wrote:On July 15 2016 10:16 Ramiz1989 wrote: Sonya is banned from Dreamhack as she has some weird double attack bug that breaks the game with Focused Attack and Follow Through as she one-shots something. Zagara's maw isn't working well, and many other things. Dreamhack is being played on a previous build of the game from my understanding. Yeah which is strange, but I know that she is globally banned. It's not strange. They have done that everytime when a major patch was released a short time before the tournament. Even with smaller patches they often ban newly released characters when they're releases to short before the tournament or when they have obvious balance issues that Blizzard hasn't had time to adress yet.
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On July 15 2016 18:05 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 10:20 ThomasjServo wrote: I'm so happy Sonya is banned. I mentioned in the live thread, I would love if the teams got to do set bans too, and just take out heroes from the whole set. Would make banning more interesting to me at least. waiting for when there are more than 30 competitive heroes in the game so you could actually have more than 2 bans per side... ??? Its HOW many heroes there are in the game...
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On July 15 2016 18:15 Thax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 10:42 Ramiz1989 wrote:On July 15 2016 10:17 MotherFox wrote:On July 15 2016 10:16 Ramiz1989 wrote: Sonya is banned from Dreamhack as she has some weird double attack bug that breaks the game with Focused Attack and Follow Through as she one-shots something. Zagara's maw isn't working well, and many other things. Dreamhack is being played on a previous build of the game from my understanding. Yeah which is strange, but I know that she is globally banned. It's not strange. They have done that everytime when a major patch was released a short time before the tournament. Even with smaller patches they often ban newly released characters when they're releases to short before the tournament or when they have obvious balance issues that Blizzard hasn't had time to adress yet. Sonya has the problem in new patch. The tournament is being played in previous patch. She is still banned. You don't think that's strange?
On July 15 2016 18:36 Foxxan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 18:05 Ej_ wrote:On July 15 2016 10:20 ThomasjServo wrote: I'm so happy Sonya is banned. I mentioned in the live thread, I would love if the teams got to do set bans too, and just take out heroes from the whole set. Would make banning more interesting to me at least. waiting for when there are more than 30 competitive heroes in the game so you could actually have more than 2 bans per side... ??? Its HOW many heroes there are in the game... Try again, math isn't really that hard.
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On July 15 2016 18:36 Foxxan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 18:05 Ej_ wrote:On July 15 2016 10:20 ThomasjServo wrote: I'm so happy Sonya is banned. I mentioned in the live thread, I would love if the teams got to do set bans too, and just take out heroes from the whole set. Would make banning more interesting to me at least. waiting for when there are more than 30 competitive heroes in the game so you could actually have more than 2 bans per side... ??? Its HOW many heroes there are in the game...
Try again, math isn't really that hard. Another angry useless comment by you. No wonder you are low mmr in hots.
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On July 15 2016 19:25 Foxxan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 18:36 Foxxan wrote:On July 15 2016 18:05 Ej_ wrote:On July 15 2016 10:20 ThomasjServo wrote: I'm so happy Sonya is banned. I mentioned in the live thread, I would love if the teams got to do set bans too, and just take out heroes from the whole set. Would make banning more interesting to me at least. waiting for when there are more than 30 competitive heroes in the game so you could actually have more than 2 bans per side... ??? Its HOW many heroes there are in the game... Another angry useless comment by you. No wonder you are low mmr in hots. Nice attack on my MMR lol, it is quite obvious who is angry here. It was ~3200 in HL before the patch with all mighty 150 games in HL I've played. Not really that low, if you want to piss me off you have to try harder. Try typing more "????????" in the comment, maybe it will help your argument.
I am not angry, I'm sarcastic and cynical. I am not sure if you realize that there are more than 30 heroes in the game.
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On July 15 2016 20:02 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 19:25 Foxxan wrote:On July 15 2016 18:36 Foxxan wrote:On July 15 2016 18:05 Ej_ wrote:On July 15 2016 10:20 ThomasjServo wrote: I'm so happy Sonya is banned. I mentioned in the live thread, I would love if the teams got to do set bans too, and just take out heroes from the whole set. Would make banning more interesting to me at least. waiting for when there are more than 30 competitive heroes in the game so you could actually have more than 2 bans per side... ??? Its HOW many heroes there are in the game... Try again, math isn't really that hard. Another angry useless comment by you. No wonder you are low mmr in hots. Nice attack on my MMR lol, it is quite obvious who is angry here. It was ~3200 in HL before the patch with all mighty 150 games in HL I've played. Not really that low, if you want to piss me off you have to try harder. Try typing more "????????" in the comment, maybe it will help your argument. I am not angry, I'm sarcastic and cynical. I am not sure if you realize that there are more than 30 heroes in the game. its HOW many heroes there are in the game.... THAT MATTERS! Finally you get it?????
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On July 15 2016 18:05 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 10:20 ThomasjServo wrote: I'm so happy Sonya is banned. I mentioned in the live thread, I would love if the teams got to do set bans too, and just take out heroes from the whole set. Would make banning more interesting to me at least. waiting for when there are more than 30 competitive heroes in the game so you could actually have more than 2 bans per side...
Purely off the cuff kind of thing, I have to wait for Meta Madness streams to see anything like it. Things just get so stale when it is Alright who gets Sonya, Tass, Muradin, ETC, the the other usual suspects.
Hero pool is likely too shallow to want to do something like this in a real tournament, agreed.
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On July 15 2016 18:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 18:15 Thax wrote:On July 15 2016 10:42 Ramiz1989 wrote:On July 15 2016 10:17 MotherFox wrote:On July 15 2016 10:16 Ramiz1989 wrote: Sonya is banned from Dreamhack as she has some weird double attack bug that breaks the game with Focused Attack and Follow Through as she one-shots something. Zagara's maw isn't working well, and many other things. Dreamhack is being played on a previous build of the game from my understanding. Yeah which is strange, but I know that she is globally banned. It's not strange. They have done that everytime when a major patch was released a short time before the tournament. Even with smaller patches they often ban newly released characters when they're releases to short before the tournament or when they have obvious balance issues that Blizzard hasn't had time to adress yet. Sonya has the problem in new patch. The tournament is being played in previous patch. She is still banned. You don't think that's strange?
The bug is in the patch currently being used in the tournament. Obviously they don't ban Sonya for no reason.
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Is the sonya bug that you can slam, autoattack(with followthrough), then use your Q, and she will instantly autoattack(again with followthrough) again? (similar to arthas/artanis and their autoattack abilities?)
I kind of like this mechanic in general, since it (along with followthrough) gives some guidance to specific ordering of commands which is ideal. [thus serving to separate people who have played the hero before and those who haven't]
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Hate playing against Zag on Cursed Hollow after this patch.
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Huh, I think I got reported. Had a game in QM on cursed hollow as new zag. Decided to do a split-push nydus build (which I still hate). All three times I died one of the other players said "omg zag stop feeding", which I was confused at since those were my only deaths and everyone else had died 7-8 times. The one thing I said at that time was "It's hunt Illidan, what would you like me to do?", and they just said they wanted me to stay with the group. Sure, with nydus network I'm going to stay with group. whatever.
I showed up to curses, I just didn't necessarily group at all times in the late game since I had a nydus network down. At the end of the game as we were losing someone said "gg I guess zag did zag things". Checking after the game, I noticed that the person who said it was in a 3-man group including our xul who somehow did only 10k of hero damage, died 8 times, and did less siege damage than me. I went to msg the person who griefed me to ask what he thought I did wrong, but got the "this player is ignoring you" message in return.
Wouldn't be surprised if all three on the team got salty and reported me. I've never run into this experience before, but I wonder if it's what solo-queue'rs were complaining about back when heroleague could have 3 and 4-man parties. I'm 99% certain that the people in that group were overlooking how little xul was doing during the game and just blamed me because they happened to see the three times I overextended. [and specifically, all three deaths were due to hunt illidan, so I guess he spent an ult to kill me?]
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On July 16 2016 04:15 MotherFox wrote: Huh, I think I got reported. Had a game in QM on cursed hollow as new zag. Decided to do a split-push nydus build (which I still hate). All three times I died one of the other players said "omg zag stop feeding", which I was confused at since those were my only deaths and everyone else had died 7-8 times.
I showed up to curses, I just didn't necessarily group at all times in the late game since I had a nydus network down. At the end of the game as we were losing someone said "gg I guess zag did zag things". Checking after the game, I noticed that the person who said it was in a 3-man group including our xul who somehow did only 10k of hero damage, died 8 times, and did less siege damage than me. I went to msg the person who griefed me to ask what he thought I did wrong, but got the "this player is ignoring you" message in return.
Wouldn't be surprised if all three on the team got salty and reported me. I've never run into this experience before, but I wonder if it's what solo-queue'rs were complaining about back when heroleague could have 3 and 4-man parties. I'm 99% certain that the people in that group were overlooking how little xul was doing during the game and just blamed me because they happened to see the three times I overextended.
The important question then, is feeding a function of how you die, purely quantity of deaths, or somewhere in between?
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On July 16 2016 04:17 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2016 04:15 MotherFox wrote: Huh, I think I got reported. Had a game in QM on cursed hollow as new zag. Decided to do a split-push nydus build (which I still hate). All three times I died one of the other players said "omg zag stop feeding", which I was confused at since those were my only deaths and everyone else had died 7-8 times.
I showed up to curses, I just didn't necessarily group at all times in the late game since I had a nydus network down. At the end of the game as we were losing someone said "gg I guess zag did zag things". Checking after the game, I noticed that the person who said it was in a 3-man group including our xul who somehow did only 10k of hero damage, died 8 times, and did less siege damage than me. I went to msg the person who griefed me to ask what he thought I did wrong, but got the "this player is ignoring you" message in return.
Wouldn't be surprised if all three on the team got salty and reported me. I've never run into this experience before, but I wonder if it's what solo-queue'rs were complaining about back when heroleague could have 3 and 4-man parties. I'm 99% certain that the people in that group were overlooking how little xul was doing during the game and just blamed me because they happened to see the three times I overextended. The important question then, is feeding a function of how you die, purely quantity of deaths, or somewhere in between?
I interpret the "report for feeding" function as being someone who is intentionally trying to let the enemy team win by walking into turrets. I personally don't report for feeding for bad gameplay, but I'm not even sure that my gameplay was bad. I mean, I kind of feel like every death you get when in-lane is a mistake/ "feeding" of some kind, just not the kind that you are supposed to report on.
edit-> BUT...I know a lot of people who want a "report for being the worst player ever" option. I almost wish blizzard had the category & that it did nothing, just so people would have an outlet.
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On July 16 2016 04:20 MotherFox wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2016 04:17 ThomasjServo wrote:On July 16 2016 04:15 MotherFox wrote: Huh, I think I got reported. Had a game in QM on cursed hollow as new zag. Decided to do a split-push nydus build (which I still hate). All three times I died one of the other players said "omg zag stop feeding", which I was confused at since those were my only deaths and everyone else had died 7-8 times.
I showed up to curses, I just didn't necessarily group at all times in the late game since I had a nydus network down. At the end of the game as we were losing someone said "gg I guess zag did zag things". Checking after the game, I noticed that the person who said it was in a 3-man group including our xul who somehow did only 10k of hero damage, died 8 times, and did less siege damage than me. I went to msg the person who griefed me to ask what he thought I did wrong, but got the "this player is ignoring you" message in return.
Wouldn't be surprised if all three on the team got salty and reported me. I've never run into this experience before, but I wonder if it's what solo-queue'rs were complaining about back when heroleague could have 3 and 4-man parties. I'm 99% certain that the people in that group were overlooking how little xul was doing during the game and just blamed me because they happened to see the three times I overextended. The important question then, is feeding a function of how you die, purely quantity of deaths, or somewhere in between? I interpret the "report for feeding" function as being someone who is intentionally trying to let the enemy team win by walking into turrets. I personally don't report for feeding for bad gameplay, but I'm not even sure that my gameplay was bad. I mean, I kind of feel like every death you get when in-lane is a mistake/ "feeding" of some kind, just not the kind that you are supposed to report on. edit-> BUT...I know a lot of people who want a "report for being the worst player ever" option. I almost wish blizzard had the category & that it did nothing, just so people would have an outlet. An option for catharsis. I agree with your appraisal, to qualify to report for feeding intent has to be factored.
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For feeding to be something Blizzard is going to take action on it has to be clearly intentional. For example multiple deaths from running directly into the enemy towers/team without even trying to attack. Split pushing, even in a situation where it might be a bad idea, that gets the player picked off is not feeding. At least not feeding that is likely to get any consequences from Blizzard for being reported.
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Yeah, feeding has to be incredibly obvious, or the guy has to basically state it in chat that he's feeding. In any case, they won't take action for a single game. I feel like tons of people are very liberal with their reports, so anyone who can tilt-feed likely already has many reports against him.
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On July 16 2016 08:53 Pwere wrote: Yeah, feeding has to be incredibly obvious, or the guy has to basically state it in chat that he's feeding. In any case, they won't take action for a single game. I feel like tons of people are very liberal with their reports, so anyone who can tilt-feed likely already has many reports against him. I ran into a couple guys that died because they actively tried to lose while not being afk or making it too obvious. Stuff like wave clearing and doing nothing else in the late game, and then die overextended. On these cases i do report since i think its intentional bad play. Not sure if blizz could do anything about it.
Being unintentionally bad is not a reason to report, but i saw people saying "report this guy" a few times on these cases. Reporting to vent will only make the system worse
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Just got done with a run on HL. My partner and I noticed that we fought against the same guy 5 games in a row. (and beat him 4 times, because god he was really awful)
How few people have to be queuing on a Friday late night for this to happen?!?!
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