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Last night, 4 games, 2 wins, 2 loss. Lost one full lvl. How ? Simple.
First win was 6v5, almost got nothing. Sounds good and fair. Then I lost 2 5v6. Lost a full lvl. Then for my last game, a teamate left in the middle of the first round. Sure, one more loss, whatever. But no, we managed to barely won. Amazing !!! ... Not. Just won an inch of XP.
WHAT . THE . FUCK . BLIZZARD ?! ?!
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If the high level meta actually settles around this trend for the attacking team to just speedboost 6 players into the enemy team and just putting finesse aside, it won't be too interesting.
You're sitting around waiting and suddenly there's a Winston jumping at you and putting his shield up, Rein shielding and then starting to swing, reaper already running circles around you destroying your tanks and it's hard to hit him because of the Winston shield, McCree dishing out wild damage to anyone who's not in line, Lucio bumping people around. Before you have time to react your tanks are dead, your healer barely managed to charge his ult because it happened too fast and they're taking the point and you have nothing to defend the next point or in the case of KotH your next attempt at taking over the fort is just futile and you'll be trying to charge your ult for the 3rd attempt, which is going to be another type of blitz type attack.
Shock and awe can be cool but comps based on just bumrushing and just crazy shields and people dancing and dealing insane damage while zipping around is just not interesting at all.
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Rank 68 team against rank 75 team, seems real balanced blizzard thanks!
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DO FUCKING ESCORT MAPS EVEN EXIST? I PLAY CONTROL LIKE 20 TIMES A DAY
and then my fucking team dances around the point at overtime and is too fucking dumb to actually move inside the point. Losing a map after we won the teamfight, because they are too fucking stupid to simply step into the circle is so infuriating, god
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On July 28 2016 14:33 Djzapz wrote: If the high level meta actually settles around this trend for the attacking team to just speedboost 6 players into the enemy team and just putting finesse aside, it won't be too interesting.
You're sitting around waiting and suddenly there's a Winston jumping at you and putting his shield up, Rein shielding and then starting to swing, reaper already running circles around you destroying your tanks and it's hard to hit him because of the Winston shield, McCree dishing out wild damage to anyone who's not in line, Lucio bumping people around. Before you have time to react your tanks are dead, your healer barely managed to charge his ult because it happened too fast and they're taking the point and you have nothing to defend the next point or in the case of KotH your next attempt at taking over the fort is just futile and you'll be trying to charge your ult for the 3rd attempt, which is going to be another type of blitz type attack.
Shock and awe can be cool but comps based on just bumrushing and just crazy shields and people dancing and dealing insane damage while zipping around is just not interesting at all.
Deathballs are the easiest to execute, especially if flanking is not possible. You flank which takes a few seconds to setup, enemy notices and speed boosts into your team and wipes them. So Deathballs it is until the best get better at the game. It is now easier at lower level though, since Zen is a thing now and his Ult creates Deathballs by default.
But that is why I am playing alot more Mei on certain maps. No Mercy means no res means a split team is a dead team.
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Is it wrong to communicate in this game? I was calling out flanks, and some person told me to shut up! FFS I wasn't even spamming.
It was only a quick play, and I know competitive has more cooperation, but still....
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On July 30 2016 14:25 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: Is it wrong to communicate in this game? I was calling out flanks, and some person told me to shut up! FFS I wasn't even spamming.
It was only a quick play, and I know competitive has more cooperation, but still.... There's always one guy who's just a bitter piece of shit. Block him, report him if he's bad, and de-queue when you get the chance. It's what I do. Communication is good, don't let one idiot tell you otherwise.
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On July 31 2016 07:32 NewSunshine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2016 14:25 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: Is it wrong to communicate in this game? I was calling out flanks, and some person told me to shut up! FFS I wasn't even spamming.
It was only a quick play, and I know competitive has more cooperation, but still.... There's always one guy who's just a bitter piece of shit. Block him, report him if he's bad, and de-queue when you get the chance. It's what I do. Communication is good, don't let one idiot tell you otherwise. Yeah I know, I just wanted to get some comfort from the community Thanks Sunshine!
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On July 30 2016 14:25 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: Is it wrong to communicate in this game? I was calling out flanks, and some person told me to shut up! FFS I wasn't even spamming.
It was only a quick play, and I know competitive has more cooperation, but still.... I can only speak for myself, I don't really want to try to play in QP. I basically just play for myself and play the way I find fun at the time. Mostly it's working on specific mechanics that I want to try out, or just getting warmed up on a specific hero.
I usually just ignore everyone that says anything regardless what it is in QP. Most of the time they tell you the wrong information at the wrong time for the wrong reasons anyways. It gets especially annoying when they do it in a "I think I'm the best player here"-fashion or when it is just a whine.
It is never wrong to communicate if you give out actual helpful stuff, it is a necessity. Just don't expect anyone to listen to you unless you play competitive.
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On July 31 2016 21:03 JulDraGoN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2016 14:25 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: Is it wrong to communicate in this game? I was calling out flanks, and some person told me to shut up! FFS I wasn't even spamming.
It was only a quick play, and I know competitive has more cooperation, but still.... I can only speak for myself, I don't really want to try to play in QP. I basically just play for myself and play the way I find fun at the time. Mostly it's working on specific mechanics that I want to try out, or just getting warmed up on a specific hero. I usually just ignore everyone that says anything regardless what it is in QP. Most of the time they tell you the wrong information at the wrong time for the wrong reasons anyways. It gets especially annoying when they do it in a "I think I'm the best player here"-fashion or when it is just a whine. It is never wrong to communicate if you give out actual helpful stuff, it is a necessity. Just don't expect anyone to listen to you unless you play competitive. I don't care if they ignore me; that's their prerogative. I just don't understand why someone would be upset over communication.
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Words cannot express how bullshit Roadhog is, and the game would be so much better if they removed him outright. There's nothing good about Roadhog. Not a thing. The game will be garbage for as long as some fat fuck with 600 hp can one-hit kill 75% of the characters in the game every 6 seconds with a hitbox the size of the continental US.
Also, I have no respect for Roadhog players.
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On August 02 2016 07:32 Djzapz wrote: Words cannot express how bullshit Roadhog is, and the game would be so much better if they removed him outright. There's nothing good about Roadhog. Not a thing. The game will be garbage for as long as some fat fuck with 600 hp can one-hit kill 75% of the characters in the game every 6 seconds with a hitbox the size of the continental US.
Also, I have no respect for Roadhog players.
Play Zarya. He hooks someone? Shield that guy. He hooks you? Shield yourself. Hes vulnerable? Use him to charge your ulti. 150dps lazer charge murders his fat ass into oblivion, plus hes so easy to track.
Works vs Mei too A_A
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On August 02 2016 12:26 padfoota wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 07:32 Djzapz wrote: Words cannot express how bullshit Roadhog is, and the game would be so much better if they removed him outright. There's nothing good about Roadhog. Not a thing. The game will be garbage for as long as some fat fuck with 600 hp can one-hit kill 75% of the characters in the game every 6 seconds with a hitbox the size of the continental US.
Also, I have no respect for Roadhog players. Play Zarya. He hooks someone? Shield that guy. He hooks you? Shield yourself. Hes vulnerable? Use him to charge your ulti. 150dps lazer charge murders his fat ass into oblivion, plus hes so easy to track. Works vs Mei too A_A We have Zaryas that are better than I could ever be at Zarya, that's not the point. Zarya's projected barrier also has a 8 second cooldown and if other teammates are in front of her she may not be able to place it. Also it's often out of line of sight. Meanwhile Roadhog, which is complete fucking bullshit and an embarrassment to the game, doesn't even necessarily need line of sight, just needs to shoot his shit in the general direction of people behind walls or not, doesn't really matter. And every 6 seconds, SIX SECONDS, he can send out an easy-to-hit lethal hook with no effort and little skill.
Not only can Zarya only shield one person every 8 secs and Roadhog can instantly murder a guy every 6, Zarya is not appropriate in every situation. I'm ranked in the mid 70's now and there are some team comps against who we just can't make Zarya work. So we counter Roadhog with positioning, and just like when you're playing against widowmaker you're terrified because death is around the corner on every step. Except unlike Widowmaker, Roadhog doesn't actually need to see you, Roadhog doesn't actually need to aim (let alone for a target as small as your head), and Roadhog has 600 hp, not a lot of counters, Roadhog is always with his team getting support (again, unlike Widowmaker).
I understand there are cons to Roadhog, but I must fucking insist that after well over a hundred hours of play, this fucking guy, more than any other character, is a fucking piece of shit and absolutely disgusting design. And in game design schools across the world he should be highlighted as the literal pinnacle of bad mechanics in a multiplayer game.
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Zarya is kinda mandatory now, because there is this mandatory pickchain going on. You want a Mcree who needs a Zen and you want a Genji against the Mcree, so you want Zarya against the orb. Lucio for his speed boost. And then you can pick another tank that is not Roadhogg. Roadhoggs hook is still a bit big on the hitbox. So if you stand still while he looks at you its to late to dodge (in 20 tick only). I love playing against good hoggs though, they always aim perfectly for a oneshoot after their hook, so I survive by taking the duck gamble. And after a few times they get mad. Because there is nothing worse then pulling a dps into your team and have him survive. Either you just gave him ult, because he was unloading everything on you for 6 seconds. Or he took care of your team. I should learn Genji more, because kinda have enough of Lucio and Zarya in ranked. And Genji ledgedash is super amazing, you jump into the support and still have a dash up from swording. Which means they have to use both support ults to not lose Lucio to the sword and probably more after.
I guess seeing good Genjis is the cool thing about the current Meta.
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On August 02 2016 19:58 FeyFey wrote: Zarya is kinda mandatory now, because there is this mandatory pickchain going on. You want a Mcree who needs a Zen and you want a Genji against the Mcree, so you want Zarya against the orb. Lucio for his speed boost. And then you can pick another tank that is not Roadhogg. Roadhoggs hook is still a bit big on the hitbox. So if you stand still while he looks at you its to late to dodge (in 20 tick only). I love playing against good hoggs though, they always aim perfectly for a oneshoot after their hook, so I survive by taking the duck gamble. And after a few times they get mad. Because there is nothing worse then pulling a dps into your team and have him survive. Either you just gave him ult, because he was unloading everything on you for 6 seconds. Or he took care of your team. I should learn Genji more, because kinda have enough of Lucio and Zarya in ranked. And Genji ledgedash is super amazing, you jump into the support and still have a dash up from swording. Which means they have to use both support ults to not lose Lucio to the sword and probably more after.
I guess seeing good Genjis is the cool thing about the current Meta. What you call a mandatory pickchain doesn't show up in my games. It's much looser than that. We don't see Zen every game, he's there often. Genji is not always there. Zarya is not always there. You get rein, ana, soldier, tracer. We get widows so someone picks genji and he gets countered with a winston rather than Zarya.
Maybe the meta is still at the pro level but I don't see that at my level.
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I need to send out a special fuck you to all of the dipshits out there who automatically presume that the team is losing because there is a Genji on it. Yes, let's blame the Genji who is stacked with medals and not the goddamned morons playing "regular" heroes who are playing like retarded lemmings.
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I will never get back to rank 57 pls save me
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Is it just me or is Mercy pretty awful right now? At least I don't see her nearly as much in my games as I used to, and I don't even play her myself now. Her 54hps rod is average at best now, and Ana's nanaboost seems more appropriate to me than continious damage boost. Lucio is overall best support now, Zenyatta 2nd place, Ana 3rd (her rifle, provided that you hit all the darts has DOUBLE the healing of mercy's caduceus staff. Mercy feels like a niche pick for the rez... but why rez when you can out-right save people with sound barrier or iris in the first place?
Overall the most effective composition in pubs is 2 healers, 2 tanks and whatever DPS toon people are good at.
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Caldeum1976 Posts
I think it's Zenyatta, Lucio, Anna, Mercy in that order. Zenyatta might not do as much raw healing as Lucio and no speed boost, but discord orb is amazing if used properly and imo his ult is better, not to mention his damage. Zen+Lucio pairing covers a lot that the enemy can throw at you.
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Canada13372 Posts
On August 03 2016 08:57 xDaunt wrote: I need to send out a special fuck you to all of the dipshits out there who automatically presume that the team is losing because there is a Genji on it. Yes, let's blame the Genji who is stacked with medals and not the goddamned morons playing "regular" heroes who are playing like retarded lemmings.
But ... genji is a very meta pick right now. He is a "regular" hero ...
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