Ragnaros Patch General Discussion - Page 8
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Zambrah
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MotherFox
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edit-> Though if reaper is black, I guess that would further reinforce the "blizzard makes black people wear masks" thing. -_- | ||
Zambrah
United States6833 Posts
You cant seriously say "Well, Mei looks white to me, doesnt matter that shes 100% totally and undeniably chinese, her skin is light so shes clearly white" I mean really, come on now. And what do you mean "claiming as backstory," are you implying that just because these characters that were developed and created by Blizzard have the backstory from their developer and creator, Blizzard, that this back story is somehow not the canon actual factual truth behind these fictional characters developed by Blizzard for Blizzard's fictional world of Overwatch? I worded that terribly, but to reiterate, there is no "claiming" as backstory, Mei is Chinese, she is a climatologist, Mei doesn't exist in the tangible world, if Blizzard said she was a sex-changing fart dragon then Mei would be a chinese climatologist sex-changing fart dragon. EDIT: And for what its worth about Reaper, he could certainly be hispanic, in fact I googled a bit and it might actually be LIKELY that he's hispanic, nothing conclusive as to why, but some quick googling seems to indicate that his last name "Reyes" could very well have spanish origins. | ||
Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
We get Sky Temple. Half my team is silent and just picks heroes. Oh boy. No-one wants to play tank OR healer but since I can't do both I go for healer and hope someone else can tank. The timer is running out however discussing this and I end up fast picking Malfurion (later wishing Brightwing due to the power of globals on Sky Temple). We end up getting Li-Ming, Malfurion, Samuro, Thrall and Arthas. They get Dehaka, Sonya, Falstad, Li Li and Jaina. As far as I'm concerned they've won the draft handily. They have AA damage, spell damage, two globals and a healer that can blind our Thrall and Samuro. And yet, we somehow just have way better teamwork than they do. We stick together, do the temples together and follow-up without overextending constantly. Their Sonya often whirlwinds straight into our team to get triple rooted and destroyed, their Jaina goes to far forward and gets dived on and dies. I never heard Dehaka burrowing into a fight or ambush once the entire game. Their Falstad is constantly forced to use Gust just to save his team or himself. We often combine our ultimates with Earthquake and Sindragosa completely slowing them to a standstill. As soon as we get a kill with that, Li-Ming resets and we destroy them. I still go Tranquility since they don't have any focus to kill someone fast and with Tranquility healing everyone we rarely lose a hero. We win the game by a wide margin. A good thing and I'm happy about it but shouldn't we have lost that game? We had no stun to cancel Li Li's ult and they had much more reliable damage as well as two globals versus none and yet somehow they lost every teamfight big time and lost most of the temples. So strange. Still, it ended up placing me Rank 1 with a grand total of 9 points to go so two more wins and I'm in Platinum where hopefully the above randomness gets reduced a bit. | ||
Swisslink
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I think pretty much everyone agrees that the Golems are really weak currently. Is it even worth entering the mine in the first place? I'm quite certain that sending in 5 people is really not an option atm, but I don't know how many people should actually enter to grab some seeds... just... well... because you don't need 5 people on the map neither (normally) and the Golem at least tanks some dmg. | ||
Ej_
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On December 24 2016 06:36 Thezzy wrote: snip just avoid doing HL right when season begins/after a new patch, unless you are really high mmr | ||
Freezard
Sweden994 Posts
On December 24 2016 07:24 Swisslink wrote: So, short question regarding the reworked Haunted Mines. I think pretty much everyone agrees that the Golems are really weak currently. Is it even worth entering the mine in the first place? I'm quite certain that sending in 5 people is really not an option atm, but I don't know how many people should actually enter to grab some seeds... just... well... because you don't need 5 people on the map neither (normally) and the Golem at least tanks some dmg. Specialists are really strong on mines. Sylvanas, Azmodan, Hammer, probably even Gazlowe. They have buffed the damage of the golems now, but before that there was about zero reason to go the mines, if enemy went there for first golem you could easily get both forts and then defend as five to only lose two towers. The golems did almost no damage at all but had a load of health. I've won games with Azmodan without ever going into the mines. I'm not sure how it works after the damage buffs though, the few games I've played my team definitely got more value getting a strong golem, but ignoring objective is surely still a thing. As long as you don't get stuck in the mines while your enemy pushes it's probably better to go for objective now, just be quick in heading back up and defend if enemy tries to push. | ||
Hier
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Molten Power appears to be bugged, either the mechanic of the indicator. It just randomly increases, decreases. | ||
ThomasjServo
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On December 24 2016 07:24 Swisslink wrote: So, short question regarding the reworked Haunted Mines. I think pretty much everyone agrees that the Golems are really weak currently. Is it even worth entering the mine in the first place? I'm quite certain that sending in 5 people is really not an option atm, but I don't know how many people should actually enter to grab some seeds... just... well... because you don't need 5 people on the map neither (normally) and the Golem at least tanks some dmg. I think you could draft in such a way to play like this, but maybe not for every game. I think Syvanas would be a must have to forgo the mines all together. | ||
Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
Hammer does almost 300 AA damage on 20 so times two from stealth makes 600. 60% from focused attack makes it over 900. Add 25% from first strike and 200 from fury on 20 and you should go over 1000 on every first stealth AA. You can stay mobile and stealthed with hover siege. With BFG you could get a 2k alpha burst from stealth. Could be completely terrible but I can't test it right now :D | ||
Fanatic-Templar
Canada5811 Posts
On December 27 2016 23:03 Thezzy wrote: Random thought I'm having whilst away from home, how high could you get the alpha damage on hammer if you go for stealth on 1 (100% AA buff on next attack) then focused attack on 4, regular BFG on 10, first strike on 13 and fury on 20? Hammer does almost 300 AA damage on 20 so times two from stealth makes 600. 60% from focused attack makes it over 900. Add 25% from first strike and 200 from fury on 20 and you should go over 1000 on every first stealth AA. You can stay mobile and stealthed with hover siege. With BFG you could get a 2k alpha burst from stealth. Could be completely terrible but I can't test it right now :D Do multipliers stack? I thought they just applied to the base damage. | ||
Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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Ej_
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Immersion_
United Kingdom794 Posts
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Beelzebub1
998 Posts
On December 24 2016 11:02 Hier wrote: No idea why Ragnaros isn't a specialist. He doesn't really do reliable damage, and he's fairly vulnerable. His wave is overpowered not because it deals damage to anything, but because it harvests crazy experience for free. Molten Power appears to be bugged, either the mechanic of the indicator. It just randomly increases, decreases. Kidding right? Every game I play against/with a Ragnaros he is always top damage unless said team had a very competent Li Ming, I've also rarely seen KT, Valla, and Nazeebo edge him out in damage but he is always right up there. Lava Wave has to be one of the most poorly designed ults in the game as well. | ||
Hier
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On December 29 2016 07:20 Beelzebub1 wrote: Kidding right? Every game I play against/with a Ragnaros he is always top damage unless said team had a very competent Li Ming, I've also rarely seen KT, Valla, and Nazeebo edge him out in damage but he is always right up there. Lava Wave has to be one of the most poorly designed ults in the game as well. No, not kidding. He is a spec at best. | ||
Valiver
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Leolio
France633 Posts
He can become a building with his trait. That may not be enough to make him a specialist, but then Medivh is not a specialist either. Or Sylvanas. Sylvanas only has her trait making her a spec. While it defines her whole way of playing, Ragna has his trait and his ultimate. This is for the sake of the discussion, because I really believe the roles are not THAT important. Medivh is a support maybe, Ragna is a spec / assassin hybrid. Zarya is not a warrior. Or she is. | ||
Aceace
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