On April 06 2017 05:22 Silvanel wrote: You can revert the update and still play out Your save. I have done this myself.
Yeah, you can choose what patch to play on for most paradox games. On steam, it is under right click, properties, betas, use the dropdown to pick the patch you like.
On April 06 2017 06:38 Zaros wrote: I'm really looking forward to Mandate of heaven, bit scared about Ming though they are gonna be such a powerhouse with no autonomy floor anymore.
Unfortunately I have to wait to pick this up. Stellaris has their first major expansion coming today as well and I can only buy one of them at launch.
On April 05 2017 23:37 TMG26 wrote: Is the game still fun for countries that did not historically joined the war? Could a Portugal run be interesting?
Sorry I know pretty much nothing about the HoI game mechanics.
I'd suggest watching a letsplay on youtube if you are on the fence about it.
Afaik you can play pretty ahistorical in HoI 4, so you could easily be portugese, become communist, and fight fascist spain. Or something along those lines.
HoI has a focus that lies much more on actual war strategy and even tactics rather than big picture alliance and economics dealings like EU4. Of course you still mostly deal with big picture stuff, but very focused on the war. You decide how your troops should look like, what type of gear they get, if you want to build and/or research more tanks, more planes, more guns, or whatever else. Then you decide where to deploy them, and you can do some nifty micro if you want to, otherwise you can let the AI handle that stuff.
While in EU 4, you decide questions like "Who should i ally with? Which minor has not protection and can be crushed? Is it worth making people around me angry to do that? How can i grab as much stuff as possible in an inconspicuous way? Should i try to turn all of europe reformed? How do i deal with all of these muslims in the countries i have conquered?"
In HoI 4 you deal with questions like "Do i need these new troops in africa or in france? Do i rather build a bunch of infantry guns and build new infantry troops, or a few tanks and one smaller tank army, which doesn't need as many people to handle it? Should i research fast light tanks or strong big slow tanks? How do i get the supplies i need to britain when everything is full of german submarines? Can russia defend against the germans on its own, or does it need help? Do i need more fighters or more close air supports? Or even more strategic bombers? Can i afford not building guns to build those, or will my troops run out?"
On April 05 2017 23:37 TMG26 wrote: Is the game still fun for countries that did not historically joined the war? Could a Portugal run be interesting?
Sorry I know pretty much nothing about the HoI game mechanics.
I'd suggest watching a letsplay on youtube if you are on the fence about it.
Afaik you can play pretty ahistorical in HoI 4, so you could easily be portugese, become communist, and fight fascist spain. Or something along those lines.
HoI has a focus that lies much more on actual war strategy and even tactics rather than big picture alliance and economics dealings like EU4. Of course you still mostly deal with big picture stuff, but very focused on the war. You decide how your troops should look like, what type of gear they get, if you want to build and/or research more tanks, more planes, more guns, or whatever else. Then you decide where to deploy them, and you can do some nifty micro if you want to, otherwise you can let the AI handle that stuff.
While in EU 4, you decide questions like "Who should i ally with? Which minor has not protection and can be crushed? Is it worth making people around me angry to do that? How can i grab as much stuff as possible in an inconspicuous way? Should i try to turn all of europe reformed? How do i deal with all of these muslims in the countries i have conquered?"
In HoI 4 you deal with questions like "Do i need these new troops in africa or in france? Do i rather build a bunch of infantry guns and build new infantry troops, or a few tanks and one smaller tank army, which doesn't need as many people to handle it? Should i research fast light tanks or strong big slow tanks? How do i get the supplies i need to britain when everything is full of german submarines? Can russia defend against the germans on its own, or does it need help? Do i need more fighters or more close air supports? Or even more strategic bombers? Can i afford not building guns to build those, or will my troops run out?"
Thanks for the info! Gonna give it a try!
Just got it today, gonna try it out when i get home. Planing on my first run is taking advantage of Spain Civil war to beat them, and solidify/expand colony land.
On April 05 2017 23:37 TMG26 wrote: Is the game still fun for countries that did not historically joined the war? Could a Portugal run be interesting?
Sorry I know pretty much nothing about the HoI game mechanics.
I'd suggest watching a letsplay on youtube if you are on the fence about it.
Afaik you can play pretty ahistorical in HoI 4, so you could easily be portugese, become communist, and fight fascist spain. Or something along those lines.
HoI has a focus that lies much more on actual war strategy and even tactics rather than big picture alliance and economics dealings like EU4. Of course you still mostly deal with big picture stuff, but very focused on the war. You decide how your troops should look like, what type of gear they get, if you want to build and/or research more tanks, more planes, more guns, or whatever else. Then you decide where to deploy them, and you can do some nifty micro if you want to, otherwise you can let the AI handle that stuff.
While in EU 4, you decide questions like "Who should i ally with? Which minor has not protection and can be crushed? Is it worth making people around me angry to do that? How can i grab as much stuff as possible in an inconspicuous way? Should i try to turn all of europe reformed? How do i deal with all of these muslims in the countries i have conquered?"
In HoI 4 you deal with questions like "Do i need these new troops in africa or in france? Do i rather build a bunch of infantry guns and build new infantry troops, or a few tanks and one smaller tank army, which doesn't need as many people to handle it? Should i research fast light tanks or strong big slow tanks? How do i get the supplies i need to britain when everything is full of german submarines? Can russia defend against the germans on its own, or does it need help? Do i need more fighters or more close air supports? Or even more strategic bombers? Can i afford not building guns to build those, or will my troops run out?"
Thanks for the info! Gonna give it a try!
Just got it today, gonna try it out when i get home. Planing on my first run is taking advantage of Spain Civil war to beat them, and solidify/expand colony land.
You might have problems getting to a place where you can actually attack that quickly. You can't just randomly declare no CB wars in this, you usually need to either have some treaty involved (as a democrat), use one of the policy tree thingies, or just fabricate a reason as a fascist or communist. But each of those take a bit of time, and becoming fascist or communist also takes a bit of time. Especially democrats have problems starting wars until attacked by fascists or communists.
On April 07 2017 00:32 zulu_nation8 wrote: is humanism better than religious now? deus vult moved to last place
Assuming 10 Admin gain a month. Thats 20 years later You get new CB (6x400/12/10= 20). I guess it depends at what time You usually get Religious ideas. For me its third idea group. I would still get it if i want to blob hard, especially so because Exploration CB was nerfed hard last patch. It might by still ok as fourth idea group, but fifth seem too late now.
So I've been trying out Milan, hoping to form Italy and maybe even try to go for reforming the Roman Empire, but the political situation in the peninsula is a total clusterfuck. I can't get any reasonable alliances at the start because Austria usually allies my rivals and France thinks I'm too weak (and then a few years later allies some of my rivals/possible conquest victims). Any tips on how to get a reasonably good start a Milan? I always reform to Ambrosian republic to eventually get those sweet 6/6/6 rulers, but there's so little wiggle room I constantly feel trapped between a rock and a hard place (France and Austria).
On April 07 2017 22:56 PoulsenB wrote: So I've been trying out Milan, hoping to form Italy and maybe even try to go for reforming the Roman Empire, but the political situation in the peninsula is a total clusterfuck. I can't get any reasonable alliances at the start because Austria usually allies my rivals and France thinks I'm too weak (and few years later allies some of my rivals/possible conquest victims). Any tips on how to get a reasonably good start a Milan? I always reform to Ambrosian republic to eventually get those sweet 6/6/6 rulers, but there's so little wiggle room I constantly feel trapped between rock and a hard place (France and Austria).
What about Aragon in the early game? Until you get big enough to ally France, and also Aragon will eventually become Spain, and you will want their southern Italy holdings, but a temporary alliance with Aragon might give you a quick start.
On April 07 2017 22:56 PoulsenB wrote: So I've been trying out Milan, hoping to form Italy and maybe even try to go for reforming the Roman Empire, but the political situation in the peninsula is a total clusterfuck. I can't get any reasonable alliances at the start because Austria usually allies my rivals and France thinks I'm too weak (and few years later allies some of my rivals/possible conquest victims). Any tips on how to get a reasonably good start a Milan? I always reform to Ambrosian republic to eventually get those sweet 6/6/6 rulers, but there's so little wiggle room I constantly feel trapped between rock and a hard place (France and Austria).
What about Aragon in the early game? Until you get big enough to ally France, and also Aragon will eventually become Spain, and you will want their southern Italy holdings, but a temporary alliance with Aragon might give you a quick start.
I think usually they think I'm too weak as well, but maybe it'll be easier to convince them than France... I'll try doing that.
Dont rival blind. Try to set same rivals as country You want to ally. If that is not possible You can always leave rival spots open. That way You have much more chances at good aliances. Think carefully about who do You set as rival, for small countries its actually very important relation modifier.
Thanks for the tip Silvanel - this time I managed to ally Austria and Hungary almost right off the bat. ~1465, I already conquered 2 provinces from venice, plus Mantua and Ferrara (opm at the time of conquest). Ferrara was taken after a coalition of minor Italian states fired against me, Austria and Hungary made sure they never had a chance
On April 08 2017 01:52 PoulsenB wrote: Thanks for the tip Silvanel - this time I managed to ally Austria and Hungary almost right off the bat. ~1465, I already conquered 2 provinces from venice, plus Mantua and Ferrara (opm at the time of conquest). Ferrara was taken after a coalition of minor Italian states fired against me, Austria and Hungary made sure they never had a chance
I think i did it by 1500 or so, it's a lot of vassalizing / taking provinces through proxy wars( war against a small country allied with who you need to kill) in the event they have big alliances Austria/Hungary/Venice/France
Since it turned to be more of Pardox game thread (than only EUIV), i have a Stellaris question. I am playing Ironman game but i am not earning achievments and i have no idea why.
On April 10 2017 06:01 Silvanel wrote: Since it turned to be more of Pardox game thread (than only EUIV), i have a Stellaris question. I am playing Ironman game but i am not earning achievements and i have no idea why.
Paradox has a policy now with a lot of their games that it'll explicitly tell you if you're going to earn achievements or not from the game start screen.
Yes i know. And it said that i could earn achievments when i started the game. But i am not earning anything right now. It looks lika bug, i just wondered if it is a known bug or anything...
On April 10 2017 16:33 Silvanel wrote: Yes i know. And it said that i could earn achievments when i started the game. But i am not earning anything right now. It looks lika bug, i just wondered if it is a known bug or anything...
You can always add them with Steam Achievement Manager if it is bugged.
I have a question about trade - is it worth extending merchant chains upstream to low-value nodes? For instance right now I'm playing as Aragon, circa 1510, my home trade node is Genoa; I collect in Genoa and transfer trade to it from Champagne and Sevilla. As I have a good chunk of control over Sevilla (about 30% iirc, I grabbed the province from Castille as well as Tangiers from Morocco, I also plan to blob the entire Iberia so that all trade centres are mine), would it be better to move the merchant from Champagne to one of the low-value African trade nodes upstream from Sevilla in order to create a longer chain? Or is it better to steer trade to Genoa from multiple richer nodes, at least for now? I tried searching the interwebs for answers but there are many conflicting opinions on this.
Do one, see how much trade you end up with. Then do the other.
My guess would be on stearing more stuff from the closest nodes to Genoa rather than further upstream being better, but you can really just try it out.