On August 14 2017 00:23 Paljas wrote:
so you thought the game was even after the two rax?
so you thought the game was even after the two rax?
This one wasn't.
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Ej_
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On August 14 2017 00:23 Paljas wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2017 00:22 Elentos wrote: On August 14 2017 00:19 Fango wrote: On August 14 2017 00:18 Elentos wrote: On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote: On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote: kela is ahead? what? seems pretty far behind to me Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right? If you kill the natural the Zerg is dead. If you don't, surely you're behind though? Making them pull drones and spend all their larva on lings combined with actually killing some of the drones makes the game basically even at worst at this level of play. so you thought the game was even after the two rax? This one wasn't. | ||
Elentos
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On August 14 2017 00:23 Paljas wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2017 00:22 Elentos wrote: On August 14 2017 00:19 Fango wrote: On August 14 2017 00:18 Elentos wrote: On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote: On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote: kela is ahead? what? seems pretty far behind to me Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right? If you kill the natural the Zerg is dead. If you don't, surely you're behind though? Making them pull drones and spend all their larva on lings combined with actually killing some of the drones makes the game basically even at worst at this level of play. so you thought the game was even after the two rax? Rogue had no tech other than lings (with hellions & starport already on the way) and less workers than the Terran, it wasn't terrible for Kelazhur. But I think Rogue went pool first? So basically it did less than usual. | ||
Durnuu
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On August 14 2017 00:25 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2017 00:23 Paljas wrote: On August 14 2017 00:22 Elentos wrote: On August 14 2017 00:19 Fango wrote: On August 14 2017 00:18 Elentos wrote: On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote: On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote: kela is ahead? what? seems pretty far behind to me Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right? If you kill the natural the Zerg is dead. If you don't, surely you're behind though? Making them pull drones and spend all their larva on lings combined with actually killing some of the drones makes the game basically even at worst at this level of play. so you thought the game was even after the two rax? Rogue had no tech other than lings (with hellions & starport already on the way) and less workers than the Terran, it wasn't terrible for Kelazhur. But I think Rogue went pool first? Yeah Rogue went gas/pool/hatch On August 14 2017 00:24 Boggyb wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2017 00:22 Durnuu wrote: On August 14 2017 00:19 Fango wrote: On August 14 2017 00:18 Elentos wrote: On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote: On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote: kela is ahead? what? seems pretty far behind to me Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right? If you kill the natural the Zerg is dead. If you don't, surely you're behind though? Not necessarily. Proxy 2 rax really doesn't need to do much to put you even at worst. Just force a big/long enough drone pull, lings, and you're even. Maybe, but there are two major differences between that game and this: 1) Rogue is a quality Zerg 2) INnoVation is a quality Terran I could certainly find a better, more recent example, but this was the one I remembered off the top of my head. | ||
Ej_
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On August 14 2017 00:23 Meeii wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote: On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote: kela is ahead? what? seems pretty far behind to me Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right? If you kill the natural you're ahead (and almost sure to win you don't lose to some counter attack). But I'm sure it depends on how you go from there to. Kel went for early gases and factory/starport but you can also get for an early second base yourself. It's a bit more risky tough. No, the followup is always fact->CC->reactor->starport->banshee w/ cloak | ||
Fango
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On August 14 2017 00:25 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2017 00:23 Paljas wrote: On August 14 2017 00:22 Elentos wrote: On August 14 2017 00:19 Fango wrote: On August 14 2017 00:18 Elentos wrote: On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote: On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote: kela is ahead? what? seems pretty far behind to me Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right? If you kill the natural the Zerg is dead. If you don't, surely you're behind though? Making them pull drones and spend all their larva on lings combined with actually killing some of the drones makes the game basically even at worst at this level of play. so you thought the game was even after the two rax? Rogue had no tech other than lings (with hellions & starport already on the way) and less workers than the Terran, it wasn't terrible for Kelazhur. But I think Rogue went pool first? Kela only just started his second CC. Rogue would have gotten very far ahead in workers and saturated his third but chose to go allin | ||
DJHelium
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Durnuu
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On August 14 2017 00:28 DJHelium wrote: 8 min roach max incoming He's making a few lings, cheater | ||
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Durnuu
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Poll: Recommend Rogue vs TY ? ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9) ★★★ - Good game (1) ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Rogue vs TY ? (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what | ||
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Fango
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Elentos
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On August 14 2017 00:26 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2017 00:25 Elentos wrote: On August 14 2017 00:23 Paljas wrote: On August 14 2017 00:22 Elentos wrote: On August 14 2017 00:19 Fango wrote: On August 14 2017 00:18 Elentos wrote: On August 14 2017 00:17 Fango wrote: On August 14 2017 00:14 Paljas wrote: kela is ahead? what? seems pretty far behind to me Terran has to kill the natural or most of the drones to be ahead right? If you kill the natural the Zerg is dead. If you don't, surely you're behind though? Making them pull drones and spend all their larva on lings combined with actually killing some of the drones makes the game basically even at worst at this level of play. so you thought the game was even after the two rax? Rogue had no tech other than lings (with hellions & starport already on the way) and less workers than the Terran, it wasn't terrible for Kelazhur. But I think Rogue went pool first? Kela only just started his second CC. Rogue would have gotten very far ahead in workers and saturated his third but chose to go allin I refer you to Serral vs ByuN from GSL vs The World where ByuN's opening went similarly poorly and his banshees did nothing but he was fine. These 1/1 roach/ravager timings are a fucking pain in the ass to hold | ||
DJHelium
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On August 14 2017 00:29 Durnuu wrote: He's making a few lings, cheater What a scrub! Btw results link in OP shows June | ||
SetGuitarsToKill
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Durnuu
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On August 14 2017 00:31 DJHelium wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2017 00:29 Durnuu wrote: On August 14 2017 00:28 DJHelium wrote: 8 min roach max incoming He's making a few lings, cheater What a scrub! Btw results link in OP shows June Oh yeah my bad, I copied Ej's thread from June and forgot to correct it. TY | ||
Elentos
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Now 2 tanks do nothing | ||
bulya
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TY was lazy with his scouting, didn't realize its roach ravager, so he didn't have the tanks/maruders/libs to hold it. Rouge scouted well what TY was doing, so he went for what TY's build was weak against. (3 CC is a lot of marines early on, but no tanks...). 5 sieged Tanks and Rouges army would have failed... | ||
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207aicila
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On August 14 2017 00:40 Boggyb wrote: Stats. Trying to make this hard for Rogue. I was hoping for a scrub like Neeb to give Rogue some free money. If Rogue dies to a KR toss, then he can bring out Neeb. | ||
Boggyb
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On August 14 2017 00:42 207aicila wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2017 00:40 Boggyb wrote: Stats. Trying to make this hard for Rogue. I was hoping for a scrub like Neeb to give Rogue some free money. If Rogue dies to a KR toss, then he can bring out Neeb. ZvZ can be good if it gets to tech which it almost never does. PvP is bad always, so let's not see that. | ||
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