2018 IEM PyeongChang qualifiers and details - Page 3
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zealotstim
United States455 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 30 2017 09:22 zealotstim wrote: lol I guess we will know who the two finalists are early. Neeb and Special? | ||
Charoisaur
Germany15616 Posts
I expected a fair slot distribution as it's an Olympics associated event but why the hell does Europe get special treatment? | ||
Topin
Peru9937 Posts
p.s. is CatZ going to play? | ||
Fango
United Kingdom8807 Posts
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PharaphobiaSC
Czech Republic457 Posts
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pzlama333
United States273 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On November 30 2017 09:42 Charoisaur wrote: Wait.. why does Europe get 5 spots?? This is a joke. I expected a fair slot distribution as it's an Olympics associated event but why the hell does Europe get special treatment? That's the part you find unfair? And how is it special treatment? Asia also has five slots. | ||
Drfilip
Sweden590 Posts
In regular Olympics there are a lot of participants that are happy with just attending, even if they are sure to finish last. It is the international unity through sports that is the core of Olympics, not the competitiveness. Being an IEM event there are conflicting aspects of intent. That has to affect the tournament as well. | ||
GoloSC2
702 Posts
On November 30 2017 09:11 breaker1328 wrote: I don't see what the fuss is about when it comes to a lack of Korean players at an Olympic style event. It's like saying that it's unfair that Canada can only send one hockey team to the Olympics even though Canada could probably ice at least 3 Olympic level teams. S.Korea gets one player for their region and likely the second player is for being the "host country." Five players from Europe also makes sense given their population density and the number of countries these players need to represent. I'm fine with the player distribution. Whichever Korean ends up going to this thing is probably going to win it anyway and if you really need to get your Korean SC2 fix then just watch their qualifiers and skip the main tournament. I agree with that. If anything I could see scratching EU central and giving another spot to AUS, seeing how SA has two spots. I think what's really unfortunate is the timing with WESG around the corner which basically has the same format. | ||
opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On November 30 2017 09:50 Fango wrote: I'm suprised no one's calling for the tournament to be all korean and then to do a foreigner event for the paralympics instead You just won the thread | ||
Edpayasugo
United Kingdom2206 Posts
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Edpayasugo
United Kingdom2206 Posts
This is hilarious | ||
Penev
28348 Posts
Who will qualify besides Kelazhur, does Catz still compete? On November 30 2017 09:50 Fango wrote: I'm suprised no one's calling for the tournament to be all korean and then to do a foreigner event for the paralympics instead Usopsama will worship the ground you walk on | ||
ParksonVN
Australia370 Posts
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LDaVinci
France130 Posts
On November 30 2017 21:58 ParksonVN wrote: The Koreans who get out of the qualifier will be the absolute bests and they will stomp everyone hard in the main event, it’s not even exciting to watch. I strongly disagree. there is no such thing as absolute best among koreans. Innovation was supposed to be, and well, it didn't go so well at Blizzcon. And then recent event have shown good games between koreans and foreigners. Their is still a gap and at least one korean should make it to the final, but seeing one of the two lose to Neeb, Special, Serral (huge form recently), or hell even DNS or Denver (I know French bias obviously) who perform incredibly well in the last weeks could happen. And in any case, the confrontation is always interesting, at least to assess how much of the gap there is still to close. The more we have korean/foreigners games, the more we know about it. And sure you'll be the first of saying "oh look it was 3-1 and 3-0 only, not even close", without even watching one game which should be pretty close. At least it was in recent event, with foreigners taking games and matches out of very good koreans. | ||
ParksonVN
Australia370 Posts
On November 30 2017 22:16 LDaVinci wrote: I strongly disagree. there is no such thing as absolute best among koreans. Innovation was supposed to be, and well, it didn't go so well at Blizzcon. And then recent event have shown good games between koreans and foreigners. Their is still a gap and at least one korean should make it to the final, but seeing one of the two lose to Neeb, Special, Serral (huge form recently), or hell even DNS or Denver (I know French bias obviously) who perform incredibly well in the last weeks could happen. And in any case, the confrontation is always interesting, at least to assess how much of the gap there is still to close. The more we have korean/foreigners games, the more we know about it. And sure you'll be the first of saying "oh look it was 3-1 and 3-0 only, not even close", without even watching one game which should be pretty close. At least it was in recent event, with foreigners taking games and matches out of very good koreans. Do i need to remind you about the last WESG ? Yes Inno didn't win Blizzcon but it took a top Korean to stop him, Rogue on other hand lost 1-2 vs Neeb just before he found out the way to beat him 2-0 later. I haven't seen a foreigner wins against top 3 Koreans in a bo5, remember we are talking about the very top Korean who are Inno, Rogue, TY. | ||
Charoisaur
Germany15616 Posts
On November 30 2017 22:30 ParksonVN wrote: Do i need to remind you about the last WESG ? Yes Inno didn't win Blizzcon but it took a top Korean to stop him, Rogue on other hand lost 1-2 vs Neeb just before he found out the way to beat him 2-0 later. I haven't seen a foreigner wins against top 3 Koreans in a bo5, remember we are talking about the very top Korean who are Inno, Rogue, TY. yeah some dude on Reddit made a thread about the winrates of foreigners vs koreans in bo5. It was pretty low. | ||
LDaVinci
France130 Posts
On November 30 2017 22:30 ParksonVN wrote: Do i need to remind you about the last WESG ? Yes Inno didn't win Blizzcon but it took a top Korean to stop him, Rogue on other hand lost 1-2 vs Neeb just before he found out the way to beat him 2-0 later. I haven't seen a foreigner wins against top 3 Koreans in a bo5, remember we are talking about the very top Korean who are Inno, Rogue, TY. I can't see where you contradict any of my points. The gae should be interesting even if koreans win the whole tournaments. And even a 3-0 victory can be done after 3 really intense and tense games | ||
DieuCure
France3713 Posts
Stop fooling yourself, guys like you are ruining kr scene. | ||
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