Man, I'm a fanboy but they way he has been crushed by lesst opponents its just plain sucks..
Power Rank 01/16/2009 - Page 14
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Licmyobelisk
Philippines3682 Posts
Man, I'm a fanboy but they way he has been crushed by lesst opponents its just plain sucks.. | ||
ambit!ous1
United States3662 Posts
not seeing Sea's name on PR is so painfull | ||
triangle
United States3803 Posts
I know PL doesn't mean much, but still... | ||
Sulunais
Korea (South)34 Posts
I think you put too much weight on the last couple of weeks, ignoring results from a few months ago. | ||
Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On January 18 2009 12:22 Sulunais wrote: Seems everyone's forgotten about Kal and Free. They've both been strong in the last few OSL and MSL tournaments. You mean just MSL, right? | ||
Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
On January 18 2009 12:22 Sulunais wrote: Seems everyone's forgotten about Kal and Free. They've both been strong in the last few OSL and MSL tournaments. Has Leta even played a televised Bo5? Their proleague performances are supporting otherwise weak teams, getting results similar to Yarnc and Hwasin. I think you put too much weight on the last couple of weeks, ignoring results from a few months ago. that's the point, this is not Kespa you know... although I still disagree with the PR and it seems like FS isn`t responding any more | ||
mrgerry
United States1508 Posts
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Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
On January 18 2009 16:03 mrgerry wrote: FS has made his point pretty clear especially considering the explanations he gave to Ver. If you have disagreements just read through those and I'm pretty sure you will find some means of reasoning to your questions. ...please read all, not just one post | ||
amorpheus
Bulgaria2144 Posts
I can't agree for Jang bee but yet there is no other in better position. | ||
KwarK
United States40776 Posts
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strongwind
United States862 Posts
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Hyperionnn
Turkey4968 Posts
If bisu wins gom and continue to play well in pl, he will most likely jump to no1 | ||
yunicyarblejellythou
United States77 Posts
Because as has been generally stated, the PR is not a ranking based on statistics but on gameplay, I am actually surprised at many of the players rankings. It seems like there is some residual fanboism residing in your heart with regards to Flash. Flash's performances reflect a much weaker gameplay than either Jaedong or Bisu, yet you refer to Jaedong's *statistics*, and Bisu's loses as evidence of their position, hence implying the righteousness of the laters positions. Totally wrong. There has to be some level of transitivity present in these PR, and not just transitivity for the sake of transitivity but a respectful sysnthesis of what certain games won and lost represent in the world of predicting starcraft strength., A primary example of the major fallacies exhibited would be something like this. "Jangbi deserves the number 1 spot because he has beaten giants like Bisu, Free, and Mind. While when arguing for why Jaedong is at the number 4 spot you say something like, he lost to a slumping Bisu, and Free and Mind though decent are not in their best forms." You see the lack of an appropriate use of transitivity there? You didn't say verbatim this, its just an example. If we all agree that the PR is partly a reward for recent success and partly a predictor of expected success, then this PR is replete with errors. Flash does not deserve the 3rd spot. His play as a whole has been poor with victories coming against opponents that he should never lose to, and losses to players all lower than him on the PR. Leta's rank to me is not deserved as his play though insanely great has equalled a poor performing Bisu's essentially. I mean he has essentially the same pro-league success, Bisu is in GOM, has yet to play in the MSL or OSL stages that Bisu lost in and could as easily lose. Jangbi is similar as well, though I think in the end his position may be justified because of his opponents failures. Anyway, my PR would go something like this: 1. Jaedong 2. Bisu 3. Jangbi 4. Leta 5. Best 6. Flash 7. Stork 8. FBH 9. Kal 10. Luxury I think this is fitting for the PR. For example, the #1 player should unconditionally receive more votes on liquibet than any opponent on this list. So on mine Jaedong would have more votes than everyone else he would be facing. On FS's list, you would have Jangbi having to receive more votes against Jaedong, or Bisu. You would have Flash needing more votes than Bisu and Jaedong. Etc Etc. | ||
KwarK
United States40776 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:47 strongwind wrote: ^ I can sense the spoiler cries mounting Anyone who goes into a topic devoted to the discussion of the performance of players deserves to find out how said players are performing. | ||
KnightOfNi
United States1508 Posts
On January 17 2009 16:21 Sentenal wrote: I think Bisu transformed into Bizzaro-Bisu at some point, but I'm not sure when. At one point, he was invincible in PvZ, good PvP, but his PvT was suspect. But now, Bisu has been plowing through Terrans and Protosses, but losese to almost every Zerg he faces. WTF Bisu Basically, he's been practicing with Best, who can't beat a good zerg if his life depended on it. See his game against Saint on medusa. EDIT: It was saint. | ||
Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
On January 19 2009 02:22 KnightOfNi wrote: Basically, he's been practicing with Best, who can't beat a good zerg if his life depended on it. See his game against Saint on medusa. EDIT: It was saint. yeah, Savior and Effort are lame-zergs especially against Toss, no wonder Best beat them they suck so bad.... Seriously, i ahte ppl who just throw out shit on their mouth and feel clever. best's PvZ is improving, Best has nothing to do with Bisu's shaking vZ, if you want to blame teammates, blame the zergs, cuz they suck, so Bisu and best dont have too many practice partners in the team. On the other hand they can practice PvP and PvT all day and night against high caliber opponents + personal coaches (Kingdom, Oov) Saint can beat anybody if he has a good day, after that loose to a chump... | ||
disciple
9069 Posts
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mrgerry
United States1508 Posts
On January 18 2009 16:40 Jaeden wrote: ...please read all, not just one post He responded to why Free and Kal are not up there on earlier pages. What else was I supposed to read about when you just said you disagree. | ||
Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
On January 19 2009 02:59 mrgerry wrote: He responded to why Free and Kal are not up there on earlier pages. What else was I supposed to read about when you just said you disagree. I disagree about JD mainly, and I don`t see any arguments for him | ||
EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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