Power Rank 01/16/2009 - Page 18
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Canada2653 Posts
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tilhorizon
Germany191 Posts
On January 28 2009 04:55 Geo.Rion wrote: ELO isnt much more accurate than the PR because it s way too objective. PR of course is way too subjective. ELO does not take into consideration that you are in all of the leauges or out from all. 2 losses which makes you leave an SL early on are decreasing your point but the real harm you will feel later when others boost their point by making into the semis but you dont have the chanse, so that doesnt lead to a real definition of your current skill level. Also doesnt count face-to-face encounters. You rape someone 3-0 you might be behind him easily. ELO also ignores if you are good against all the races. If your vZ is weak but you meat like 3 zergs in a month from 15 matches that wont hurt too bad your ELO, even though you're shitty in an MU and you most likely wont win anything nor preform an all-kill in PL. I hope i could express myself in an understandable way. The current ranks look realistic at the first sight but check some details. Forgg is higher than Mind, Hwasin, Fantasy, July, Effort, Kal, Anytime.... even though he plyas like shit recently, etc... i see your point but for me the powerrank is what player is at the moment the most powerfull the strongest player and if you let bisu play a best of 7 vs any opponent at the moment he is still favorite to win so he nr 1 you cant say that about any other player | ||
Avidkeystamper
United States8551 Posts
On January 29 2009 05:45 tilhorizon wrote: and if you let bisu play a best of 7 vs any opponent at the moment he is still favorite to win so he nr 1 you cant say that about any other player He's not No1 because clearly not everybody agrees with that sentiment. | ||
iloahz
United States964 Posts
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5676 Posts
On January 29 2009 05:45 tilhorizon wrote: i see your point but for me the powerrank is what player is at the moment the most powerfull the strongest player and if you let bisu play a best of 7 vs any opponent at the moment he is still favorite to win so he nr 1 you cant say that about any other player No he is not the favourite vs any opponent , because he hasn't beat more then 3 strong players in a series recently ... On January 29 2009 07:27 zhaoli86 wrote: wait until bisu wins both GSL and OSL he has a good shot at GSL , but in OSL he has a chance about the same as almost anyone in it .... | ||
Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
Now Bisu is back in the OSL, and he went 6-0 in the same night. He broke the 2300 ELO mark again. He is 15-1 in his last PvTs, and that is against Terrans like Flash, Mind, Sea, and Skyhigh. He is 18-4 in his last PvPs, against people like Jangbi, Free, Anytime, and Stork. Right now he has clearly the best PvT and PvP. He is the favorite to win GOM S2. Right now its just that his PvZ is uncharacteristally poor. So he needs to step that back up. If any Protoss can reinvent their PvZ and turn it around, its Bisu. So I think Bisu should make a return to the top 3 for the next rank, assuming the crap that got him out of the MSL and OSL in the first place stops. | ||
Dgtl
Canada889 Posts
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8551 Posts
On January 29 2009 13:20 Sentenal wrote: Bisu claims that he still has good PvZ, and it just hasn't show in his recent televised games. He needs to prove it, though. But maps like Tears of the Moon will make that hard for him Honestly, even with maps like Tears of the Moon, Bisu should have been able to beat by.hero. Medusa gives him the advantage too. Let's hope he gets into another all-zerg OSL group. XD | ||
Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On January 29 2009 13:28 Avidkeystamper wrote: Honestly, even with maps like Tears of the Moon, Bisu should have been able to beat by.hero. Medusa gives him the advantage too. Let's hope he gets into another all-zerg OSL group. XD I guess we will see how Tears of the Moon develops, balance wise. It might become the PvZ equivalent of how bad Medusa is for TvP. Its on track for that, with ZvP being 10-2 thus far. | ||
5tarscream
Singapore459 Posts
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
On January 29 2009 12:50 Dgtl wrote: Bisu kind of flipped the switch on his match-ups. I remember when he was average at pvp decent at pvt and amazing at pvz. Now he is amazing at pvp, amazing at pvt and shit at pvz :O Why do people keep on saying he has a shit PvZ.... Sure hes hit a rough patch right now, but before this he went 13-3 in his last 16 PvZ games demolishing Zergs left and right. People need to look beyond the stats and look at the way he actually loses games (I havent watched the zero game yet so he could be awful there for all I know) Sure he did a "bad" choice by going FE on tears vs hero, but according to himself its extremely hard to win with 1base and this map is looking to become a PvZ graveyard. In the medusa game, sure he didnt play up to his max potential but he didnt play bad either, Hero just stepped up his game and played an amazing game. Vs Savior he did a sloppy mistake losing his scoutprobe with eventually led to savior being able to do the speedling break and making him spend the rest of the game trying to catch up and eventually fail, vs Luxury he lost to a 5pool after scouting on the last position and there is really no shame in that and as like vs savior he had to fight and uphill battle that he eventually lost, once again Luxury played an excellent game with well timed tech switches and Bisu did in no way play bad, he just got outplayed. I might be a blinded fanboy of bisu and fail to see his shortcomings, but I honestly believe his PvZ is almost/equally as strong as before and that hes made a few sloppy mistakes and had his Zerg opponents step up their game in a few cases. And in general I think people are way to fast at saying people suck in XvsY just because they lose a few games, when often the case is that the opposition have stepped up their game and played great. At the end of the day todays StarCraft is a sick competitive and volatile game that often takes place on a razor edge where its extremely hard to stay at top and not dropping games. Like all the people who believed jaedong sucked ZvT just because he went 2-8 over a 10game span. Have he fucked up and dropped some games and not played his usual god mode PvZ? sure. Do he suck at PvZ? I highly doubt it. | ||
traced
1739 Posts
it's so weird because he was playing so fucking good just a week before, versus zerg. i dunno. he probably needs to make a few adjustments, the burden of proof is on him. but even though his vz is a hopeful question mark, his other two matchups are basically auto-wins. i think he has to be in the running for first, should he win gom. i could see the case for leta or jaedong, though. | ||
Flamboyant
United States57 Posts
BISU HWAITING!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/125_Bisu/games 6-0 DROP IN ONE FUCKING NIGHT IS THIS GUY EVER TIRED????? BISU IS A FUCKING BEASTSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU | ||
Avidkeystamper
United States8551 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
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Magic84
Russian Federation1381 Posts
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Djabanete
United States2783 Posts
On January 30 2009 01:51 Oystein wrote: Have he fucked up and dropped some games and not played his usual god mode PvZ? sure. Do he suck at PvZ? I highly doubt it. A sensible post in the PR thread?!?! *grabs generator, 2-liter bottle of Gatorade, and PBJ sandwiches; hides in basement and tries to outlast the End of Days, the Return of the Dinosaurs, and the subsequent plague and zombie apocalypse.* | ||
Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
On February 01 2009 04:21 Djabanete wrote: A sensible post in the PR thread?!?! *grabs generator, 2-liter bottle of Gatorade, and PBJ sandwiches; hides in basement and tries to outlast the End of Days, the Return of the Dinosaurs, and the subsequent plague and zombie apocalypse.* dude u forgot about the aliens' invasion...shame on u | ||
Djabanete
United States2783 Posts
On February 01 2009 04:27 Jaeden wrote: dude u forgot about the aliens' invasion...shame on u You mean FakeSteve? disclaimer: I like the Power Rank =) | ||
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