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On May 27 2010 06:47 Mooncat wrote:Please do not misunderstand this post. I'm not saying either one of them is the better player. + Show Spoiler +although I obviously think it's Flash
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On May 27 2010 08:35 captainwafflos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2010 06:47 Mooncat wrote:Please do not misunderstand this post. I'm not saying either one of them is the better player. + Show Spoiler +although I obviously think it's Flash what.
Oh... Considering EffOrt is involved in this discussion too, I should probably clarify this. Jaedong and Flash are both better players than EffOrt, but between Jaedong and Flash it can't really be decided who's the "better" player overall imo.
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What's with this plexa hate over Effort not being mentioned in the last PR? Anyone who claims to have foreseen Effort being a top player again even just two months ago is absolutely full of shit and it's hard to recognize a player as having returned to PR worthy form after playing so bad for so long.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
I haven't caught up with all the comments, but leaving effort off of the PR last month was 100% justified. Need I play you the night of horrific regames that occurred? Effort did not look anywhere near as good as he does now back then. People need to remember that this is a MONTHLY ranking, not a weekly ranking
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Looking forward to the June power rank. This MSL finals will be HUGE!!
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
I'm looking forward to it as well, for once we haven't had a month of people failing!!!!
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On May 28 2010 10:32 Plexa wrote: I'm looking forward to it as well, for once we haven't had a month of people failing!!!! It's true, it feels like the last few months have been a handful of players performing consistently, and then the remainder of the PR spots are just flavor of the month types who we know from prior experience aren't there to stay.
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On May 28 2010 10:32 Plexa wrote: I'm looking forward to it as well, for once we haven't had a month of people failing!!!!
Save for Leta in the MSL Prelims...
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Plexa might mean not to include Leta. When I posted my thoughts on rankings a few pages back, I thought Leta should be around 9 or 10, the bottom of the ranking. There are a number of people just off the ranking who also had strong performances and I could easily see whoever is in the 9-10 range being replaced by one of those.
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Effort below Flash is fine and expected, I don't know if even you think Effort is better than Flash. Below Kal? Effort dominated Kal in that semi-final, it was very clear who the better player was.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
If Jaedong plays like he has been doing lately and defeats Flash he would probably edge the #1 position off him. If he 5 pools Flash 3 times.... different story.
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When I look back at the PR's one day and I see someone who made dual finals again after being so dominant not being nr1 I will only be satisfied with it if the #1 player clearly showed that he was the better player.
I guess thats the price you have to price you have to pay for winning too much. It's so impossibly hard to win both leagues at the same time and if you lose at the finals the opponent gets all the credit even if he's just in a single league.
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On May 29 2010 00:43 Plexa wrote:If Jaedong plays like he has been doing lately and defeats Flash he would probably edge the #1 position off him. If he 5 pools Flash 3 times.... different story.
Dude!!! If he 5 pooled Flash thrice, I guarantee that he'll lose twice. JD is good. He's damn good. But he's not thaaaaaaaaaaaaat good. Besides, it's not random scrub he's playing.
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On May 29 2010 00:43 Plexa wrote:If Jaedong plays like he has been doing lately and defeats Flash he would probably edge the #1 position off him. If he 5 pools Flash 3 times.... different story.
So if Flash were to lose to 5pool three times he would retain #1?
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On May 29 2010 03:17 Mindcrime wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2010 00:43 Plexa wrote:If Jaedong plays like he has been doing lately and defeats Flash he would probably edge the #1 position off him. If he 5 pools Flash 3 times.... different story. So if Flash were to lose to 5pool three times he would retain #1? :|
imo if we get another finals like the OSL, where Flash beats Jaedong in late game but Jaedong wins 3 short games, then Flash should stay #1.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On May 29 2010 05:31 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2010 03:17 Mindcrime wrote:On May 29 2010 00:43 Plexa wrote:If Jaedong plays like he has been doing lately and defeats Flash he would probably edge the #1 position off him. If he 5 pools Flash 3 times.... different story. So if Flash were to lose to 5pool three times he would retain #1? :| imo if we get another finals like the OSL, where Flash beats Jaedong in late game but Jaedong wins 3 short games, then Flash should stay #1. So if Jaedong exploits a well-known, recently exposed hole in Flash's game, then Flash should stay #1.
I agree though, let's see the games first. But the likelihood of a controversial PR is high.
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On May 29 2010 01:30 StylishVODs wrote: When I look back at the PR's one day and I see someone who made dual finals again after being so dominant not being nr1 I will only be satisfied with it if the #1 player clearly showed that he was the better player.
I guess thats the price you have to price you have to pay for winning too much. It's so impossibly hard to win both leagues at the same time and if you lose at the finals the opponent gets all the credit even if he's just in a single league.
Basically this. If Jaedong doesn't completely dominate the finals and somehow gets #1 vs someone who made dual finals twice in a row while being nearly invincible in Proleague I'm not really sure how I'd react.
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