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ZpuX
Sweden1230 Posts
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Chris307
3095 Posts
On October 07 2004 16:31 Levu wrote: isnt ddangs best matchup TvT? i think he threw the game to avoid xellos His TvP is intense. Just, ridiculously good. Even as compared to other more known Korean pros. I'd say his best is TvP, followed by TvT, his worst being TvZ. | ||
Chris307
3095 Posts
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Chris307
3095 Posts
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DJ_Heather
Korea (South)174 Posts
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Chris307
3095 Posts
There's absolutely nothing wrong with it. It's perfectly fair-play. This does not hurt his "manner level." | ||
exalted
United States3612 Posts
Sorry, I acted kinda touchy on my previous post, and the guy from Poland (forgot your name sorry) presented really good arguments about possible solutions and why he felt it was unfair (although that betting analogy wasn't really clear). Chris307, what have you seen that makes you feel his Tvp is that intense? Any reps you can share? | ||
DoubleStormIII
Korea (South)2610 Posts
Of course Midas doesn't want to face him. He would have felt bad if he actually went to face Xellos and had to either win or lose. | ||
pinbaLL
Sweden1711 Posts
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gogogobomb
China114 Posts
2)its up to their national honor.maybe they have too.i heard that in pro team,progamers should obey the coach,i guess the coach ask midas to take a dive and he himself is willing to do so. 3)to avoid this,wcg should learn from olympic games.in table-tennis and some other games, a nation only has one player,or all the players of the same nation should be in the same half. 4)see the euro-champion league,set the lineups after group matches. | ||
bioboyAT
Austria1762 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On October 08 2004 07:22 DoubleStormIII wrote: Well I said already, but Xellos is a Korean, a GO team leader, and his mentor. Of course Midas doesn't want to face him. He would have felt bad if he actually went to face Xellos and had to either win or lose. 100% agree! It's so different, if you just don't want to face a player because he's good, than if you don't want to face him, because he's on the same team as you. And also: Midas is out of Star League. This is his biggest chance to become well-known (look at ogogo, the same thing happened to him). If he comes in 2nd, and Xellos 1st, people will still think, that he's very skilled and has alot of talent, but he just happened to lose vs. the perfect Terran. But if he loses to Xellos before the finals, 1) he does not have a good rank and 2) people will say things like 'android would've beaten him two' or things like that. I don't think, he liked throwing the game away, but if this tournament is so important for you, everyone here would've done it, I think. | ||
Brown
Afghanistan367 Posts
Instead of following the rules, the Koreans think they're above it. Now a person who would not have to face Xellos in the original draw has to, how is it fair for him? It's an issue of sportsmanship, if you want the world to take your "sport" seriously, you don't allow things like this to happen. There would be outrage and an investigation if something like this happened in the olympics and since the WCG is trying to be the gaming olympics, it's an apt comparsion. Midas obviously knows its not the right thing to do, because if he thought it were, he would have just left in the first minute or not even even played. Instead Midas pretended and put on a show, using a strategy though unconventional and stupid, but if questioned he could defend. It's sickening how amoral these Koreans act. | ||
Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On October 08 2004 08:16 Brown wrote: Throwing the game is bullshit. Instead of following the rules, the Koreans think they're above it. Now a person who would not have to face Xellos in the original draw has to, how is it fair for him? It's an issue of sportsmanship, if you want the world to take your "sport" seriously, you don't allow things like this to happen. There would be outrage and an investigation if something like this happened in the olympics and since the WCG is trying to be the gaming olympics, it's an apt comparsion. Midas obviously knows its not the right thing to do, because if he thought it were, he would have just left in the first minute or not even even played. Instead Midas pretended and put on a show, using a strategy though unconventional and stupid, but if questioned he could defend. It's sickening how amoral these Koreans act. read my post -_- you'd do exactly the same | ||
Chris307
3095 Posts
On October 08 2004 08:16 Brown wrote: Throwing the game is bullshit. Instead of following the rules, the Koreans think they're above it. Now a person who would not have to face Xellos in the original draw has to, how is it fair for him? It's an issue of sportsmanship, if you want the world to take your "sport" seriously, you don't allow things like this to happen. There would be outrage and an investigation if something like this happened in the olympics and since the WCG is trying to be the gaming olympics, it's an apt comparsion. Midas obviously knows its not the right thing to do, because if he thought it were, he would have just left in the first minute or not even even played. Instead Midas pretended and put on a show, using a strategy though unconventional and stupid, but if questioned he could defend. It's sickening how amoral these Koreans act. Retard. | ||
Tress
Sweden39 Posts
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Muhweli
Finland5328 Posts
On October 07 2004 16:54 Liquid`Drone wrote: he threw the game he did like 5 rax mmf in terran vs terran attacked with all units against 10 sieged tanks said gg afterwards and smiled. no he played 100%!!!! | ||
ItchReliever
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Brown
Afghanistan367 Posts
On October 08 2004 08:26 Tress wrote: throwing a game is normal in sports. this way midas and xellos can both try to get into the top3, and both can try to win some money. I guess it's a difference culture, in the socalist heaven of Europe, where all morality is relative, throwing a game is fine, but where I live it's consider cheating and in all sports is prohibited. | ||
gogogobomb
China114 Posts
On October 08 2004 08:16 Brown wrote: Throwing the game is bullshit. Instead of following the rules, the Koreans think they're above it. Now a person who would not have to face Xellos in the original draw has to, how is it fair for him? It's an issue of sportsmanship, if you want the world to take your "sport" seriously, you don't allow things like this to happen. There would be outrage and an investigation if something like this happened in the olympics and since the WCG is trying to be the gaming olympics, it's an apt comparsion. Midas obviously knows its not the right thing to do, because if he thought it were, he would have just left in the first minute or not even even played. Instead Midas pretended and put on a show, using a strategy though unconventional and stupid, but if questioned he could defend. It's sickening how amoral these Koreans act. of course its unfair to russian,but there are other aspects.for koreans,maybe the ranking is the first thing they think.for others, maybe not.i think most of the people there are playing for fun,or more seriously for his country.if i were there,i wanna be the opponent of xellos and save the rep as my favorite.its great honor whether win or lose,right?well,i should say i just have a thought of sc fans. | ||
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