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On Weapon of Choice ep9, djWheat and Chill called MorroW to interview him about his IEM win.
http://djwheat.blip.tv/file/4038016/
I won't go over everything, but basically dimaga helped MorroW prepare for Idra by showing him the reaper build he used. MorroW also goes into his past with Idra, interesting stuff. He calls him at around 7:30 but the whole show was really good, you should check it out. Pretty crazy considering what dimaga has had to say recently.
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I found that extremely interesting. This definitely deserves a thread.
So MorroW went in to the tournament preferring to go FE against Zerg but quickly learned the strength of reaper openings when watching DeMuslim and others play.
DIMAGA then educates MorroW in the fine arts of the reaper so that he can prove to the world how imbalanced the strategy is.
But what isn't clear in the interview is if DIMAGA helped MorroW out at an early stage (even before the semifinals) or in preparation for the game against Idra?
EDIT: Probably was in preparation for the finals as MorroW mentions how he stayed at the venue to practice after the semifinals while everyone else were of partying But MorroW did use reapers to good effect against DIMAGA... there are holes to fill in this story.
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he even says that the reaper build is imba and should be nerfed soon. good interview and another good WoC. Pretty amazing he learned that build last minute and used it pretty well (unless I misunderstood and dimaga showed him that build well in advance of the lan)
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Thanks for posting this, listening now.
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Does that mean that Dimaga could have lost to morrow on purpose (doubt it). I think they played in the semi finals???
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oh shit, forgot about Weapon of Choice... thanks for the post!
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as far as i understood the whole story dimaga practiced with him the night after their match
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On August 23 2010 11:02 Mouth wrote: he even says that the reaper build is imba and should be nerfed soon. good interview and another good WoC. Pretty amazing he learned that build last minute and used it pretty well (unless I misunderstood and dimaga showed him that build well in advance of the lan)
OR the reaper opening is extremely easy to learn as you only need to learn the basic BO and then remember to make scvs and learn how to reaper micro. On top of that you get taught the build by very impressive T and Z players who have practiced with each other so much on mTw that they have learned the build inside out. Seems fairly ezpz, not impressive to me.
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I'm just curious to see what the fix will be. Think they'll scrap reapers all together? Or simply remove the speed upgrade / nerf their nade spam?
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lol at Morrow "he didn't gg" HEAVEN FORBID... most of the time "gg" is a mechanical reaction, its silly to force people to type it everygame.
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Reaper and Hellion serve overlapping roles. Safe to just yank one or the other.
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Thanks for this. Watching now.
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On August 23 2010 11:11 GhoSt[shield] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 11:02 Mouth wrote: he even says that the reaper build is imba and should be nerfed soon. good interview and another good WoC. Pretty amazing he learned that build last minute and used it pretty well (unless I misunderstood and dimaga showed him that build well in advance of the lan) OR the reaper opening is extremely easy to learn as you only need to learn the basic BO and then remember to make scvs and learn how to reaper micro. On top of that you get taught the build by very impressive T and Z players who have practiced with each other so much on mTw that they have learned the build inside out. Seems fairly ezpz, not impressive to me.
I agree the strat seems a bit easy. Against most zerg its going to own them straight up. Players like IdrA and Dimaga are sooooo skilled yet can only stop it "IF" the Terran player makes a few mistakes and they play it perfectly. It really is very clear that reapers are imbalanced in TvZ.
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On August 23 2010 11:13 JudoChopper wrote: lol at Morrow "he didn't gg" HEAVEN FORBID... most of the time "gg" is a mechanical reaction, its silly to force people to type it everygame.
It may be for amateurs like you and me, but in a professional competition it's within fairplay and code of conduct, this is the same as any sport, and I think we want to consider e-sports also a part of sports.
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How to fix reaper abuse ? not a big change cuz i think its not imba as that (im z) 2 pop or a little less speed should be fine The problem is that with a decent amount 6-12+ and the good map (cliff) they cannot be beat by zergling speed and roach cant follow them off creep so terran can have easy map control early/mid game and full time harass.
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On August 23 2010 11:21 elderbre wrote: It may be for amateurs like you and me, but in a professional competition it's within fairplay and code of conduct, this is the same as any sport, and I think we want to consider e-sports also a part of sports. It should only be GG if you felt it was a GG, saying GG when you felt the game was bad is rather false and unnecessary imo.
I mean does it really hurt a player if his opponent doesn't GG? he probably won't or at least shouldn't care since he's won anyway.
edit: sorry for slight off topic, i'll shuttup about it now
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On August 23 2010 11:15 sk` wrote: Reaper and Hellion serve overlapping roles. Safe to just yank one or the other.
so do colossus and high templar, but they also have many differences.
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I expect all the people saying how easy was the build morrow was doing to go and own zergs in every tournament.
Oh wait, that's not gonna happen .
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On August 23 2010 11:28 L0thar wrote:I expect all the people saying how easy was the build morrow was doing to go and own zergs in every tournament. Oh wait, that's not gonna happen .
I just want to clarify when i said the strat is easy i mean that its easy for top tier terrans such as Morrow. In no way am i saying anyone can do it. Full props to Morrow, he played extremely well and beat IdrA within the bounds of the game. Either Blizzard will make a change or someone will come up with something more solid to beat 5 rax reapers as zerg.
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get more queens. thats the answer imo. stop complaining.
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