Borderlands was Ok, but it was a shoot-em-up. Compare it to Halo or MoH games, not to a story driven game like Fallout.
There wasn't much character differentiation and since you were using guns, no real call for 'skills' but some of the dialog was the funniest I've ever heard.
It's OK, wasn't game of the year, but a solid 7/10 I feel.
It's a shame their multiplayer support is such crap though... granted that seems to be a problem recently.... if they aren't MMOs, their multiplayer support sucks.
On October 21 2010 17:46 sob3k wrote: I honestly don't care about story at all, I just want to know if you can do fun stuff, find actually interesting items, and maybe even figure out a cool character build instead of slogging through endless hordes in VATS using the exact same strategy.
I'm pretty sure that this is the game you're looking for.
Too bad I've already spent approximately 659236841208 hours playing D2...need something fresh!
How about this? It's kind of a watered down D2 in a post-apoc setting, but without the shitty story-line, dialog, gameplay, items, graphics, etc, etc, etc that Fo3 has.
Wait wait wait. Borderlands doesn't have shitty story-line and dialog and is better than Fo3? I'll have some of what you're smoking. It does have better gameplay and an actual character build which is what sob3k is looking for but don't oversell the game.
If you read sob3k's original post, he was asking for a game without story-line, just mindless hack-and-slash sort of deal and some character development.. that was fresh. Borderlands is exactly that: no story (but still manages to beat Fo3 story in every way imaginable) and has "good" - yeah, I use that word tentatively, but this is what ppl have to settle for these days - gameplay, also I don't remember there being any dialog.. but who knows..
Dont know what all the hate is about. I loved fallout 1, i thought fallout 2 was ok but too much similarities to fallout 1. I got bored too quickly with fo2 and moved on to different games.
Fallout 3 was really different and i liked it. I never used VATS and it was fine. But the main problem for me was its kinda challenging in the beginning but gets too easy too quickly. So when i m too powerful and have all the fancy weapons to one hit kill things i am simply too bored to play on and finish the game. Otherwise it was a really great game.
On October 22 2010 05:17 TheDna wrote: Dont know what all the hate is about. I loved fallout 1, i thought fallout 2 was ok but too much similarities to fallout 1. I got bored too quickly with fo2 and moved on to different games.
Fallout 3 was really different and i liked it. I never used VATS and it was fine. But the main problem for me was its kinda challenging in the beginning but gets too easy too quickly. So when i m too powerful and have all the fancy weapons to one hit kill things i am simply too bored to play on and finish the game. Otherwise it was a really great game.
I played for about 10 minutes, said it was stupid the quit playing
personally thought the game was another boring oblivion style game that they developed. then again i dislike games of this genre anyway
I liked fallout 3 but it did get repetitive at the end. And while games like diablo2 and titan quest ask you to replay the game just on a higher difficulty, the game does get more difficult where fallout3 got easy at the end. Seemed like the stats/specialisation didnt really matter either. And also, I got tired of the color grey, I know, it's post apocalyptic but still, kinda got tired of it at the end.
Conclusion is, not gonna pick up New Vegas, it seemed like they didnt really add/improve enough, just a new story. I might pick it up a year down the road when they release GOTY edition with all the DLC included already, although half of that DLC I probably won't even try out, just like in fallout3 I havent tried all of the DLC.
It definitely doesn't feel like fallout 3, if that's what you are concerned about. Everything is hand placed, the quests are way more interesting, the map is significantly more interesting, and the locations are appropriately sized. Fallout 3 had huge buildings that were empty and boring, and they all felt the same. New Vegas's buildings are all reasonably thought out, manageable, interesting, etc.. It just works. It reuses the interface but the game feels totally different. I'd say that it looks similar in the screenshots and they advertised it as being just like fallout 3 but it is a totally different experience.
On October 21 2010 15:12 CheeseGrater wrote: Fallout New Vegas Deboxing!
is this guy forreal or trying to be funny? this is why NA gamers get bad names. calls poker chips pogs doesnt know how to say commemorating. doesnt know lyrics to sugar we are going down plays solitaire alone and no shirt T_T
On October 22 2010 07:50 shalamadoooo wrote: It definitely doesn't feel like fallout 3, if that's what you are concerned about. Everything is hand placed, the quests are way more interesting, the map is significantly more interesting, and the locations are appropriately sized. Fallout 3 had huge buildings that were empty and boring, and they all felt the same. New Vegas's buildings are all reasonably thought out, manageable, interesting, etc.. It just works. It reuses the interface but the game feels totally different. I'd say that it looks similar in the screenshots and they advertised it as being just like fallout 3 but it is a totally different experience.
Sounds like bullshit to me. The way the gameplay felt in Fo3 was one of the big factors of it being a God-awful, abhorrent game, and they are reusing the engine in Fo3: YEAH We're IN VEGAS, BABY!!111 or w/e it's called... it is as they say; you can polish a turd, but it's still a piece of shit.
is this guy forreal or trying to be funny? this is why NA gamers get bad names. calls poker chips pogs doesnt know how to say commemorating. doesnt know lyrics to sugar we are going down plays solitaire alone and no shirt T_T
Sounds like bullshit to me. The way the gameplay felt in Fo3 was one of the big factors of it being a God-awful, abhorrent game, and they are reusing the engine in Fo3: YEAH We're IN VEGAS, BABY!!111 or w/e it's called... it is as they say; you can polish a turd, but it's still a piece of shit.
The engine is reused but the gameplay is different. No insta-headshots with vats. No scaling in the environment. If you sue hardcore mode no more free travel. No more boring totally empty places. No random people in the middle of nowhere without protection/etc. Ever play Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines? Did that feel like hl2? It really is different, I hated fallout 3 but this one works. If nothing more wait for a discount or something. If you liked morrowind you'll like this. If you liked fallout 3 you may think "its boring" because every single character or quest isn't a joke.
is this guy forreal or trying to be funny? this is why NA gamers get bad names. calls poker chips pogs doesnt know how to say commemorating. doesnt know lyrics to sugar we are going down plays solitaire alone and no shirt T_T
Dude's not serious, it's a joke aimed at weird (creepy?) "unboxing" videos. The gf and I just watched it like, ten minutes ago and we couldn't stop laughing.
I find New Vegas to be pretty kickass btw, but that may be because I didn't get to experience FO3 on a high-end gaming rig. I was always tempted to buy it again after I sold my xbox copy, but couldn't justify it as I'd already sunk 150 hours or so into it. New Vegas was the perfect excuse.
Note that this game is loosely based off the original Fallout 3 (Van Buren) that Black Isle was making before they were shut down, which also had the Caesar's Legion and a similar plot although it was set in Colorado. So to me this is Fallout 3, and Fallout 3 is Fallout: Capitol Wasteland
I'd also like to add that, though I can't be sure just yet, I think that the hardcore mode will alleviate some of that "too easy" end game feeling that a lot of bethesda's games seem to have. I'm playing hardcore mode on very hard difficulty and I'm more than pleased. Here's a game that doesn't fuck around.
[QUOTE]On October 22 2010 09:02 meathook wrote: [QUOTE]On October 22 2010 07:50 shalamadoooo wrote: as they say; you can polish a turd, but it's still a piece of shit.
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yeah but you can roll it around in glitter instead
Sort of rushed through the game for Caesar's Legion ending, it was okay. Took me 12 hours (which is me not exploring AT ALL). Hardcore mode wasn't that hard, but I'll try again on Very Hard and go NCR. The storyline and major side quests hardly send you around the world, which is sort of expected. It felt super linear, in terms of story wise. However, that's just me rushing through. Now I'm going to go FAR slower for NCR, self-RP hardcore with gathering and hunting, and actually explore the entire wasteland.
My only actual gripe is how easy it is to get rich with +6 or +7 luck in Casino's. I'm not kidding, it's not even fair. I went in to Gomorrah with 400 caps and always struggling with money, 10 minutes later from Blackjack and betting high, I was up to 3500. I left, got some new weapons and ammo and shit, and came back for another 20 minutes. I was up to 15,000 caps in 30 minutes of gambling before I got kicked out.
I pretty much HAVE to set rules for myself (IE: No gambling) to make this game challenging. You literally can get unlimited money as soon as you get into the Vegas Strip if you know how to play Blackjack at all. Which is, as I said sort of earlier, I'm going to do a playthrough where I don't buy anything from vendors (other than food, water, etc. I need to make or gather all my ammo) and create my own food and not use fast travel (unless over retarded distances).
EDIT: And I've noticed far less glaring glitches with the engine. It's still goofing out on me, but whatever. It's Fallout, I don't care. I'm not here for a Crysis engine, I'm here for post apocalyptic fun.
I just recruited my second companion and found out you can use more than one (more than two maybe?). That is just awesome - unless one of them is a goody two-shoes and hates when I steal shit.
Is there a lot of side quests and shit like in Fallout 3? I want to complete all of them, and I read on New Vegas forums that there are close to 70ish hours worth of quests. Hope this is true O_O
On October 22 2010 05:17 TheDna wrote: Dont know what all the hate is about. I loved fallout 1, i thought fallout 2 was ok but too much similarities to fallout 1. I got bored too quickly with fo2 and moved on to different games.
Fallout 3 was really different and i liked it. I never used VATS and it was fine. But the main problem for me was its kinda challenging in the beginning but gets too easy too quickly. So when i m too powerful and have all the fancy weapons to one hit kill things i am simply too bored to play on and finish the game. Otherwise it was a really great game.
I played for about 10 minutes, said it was stupid the quit playing
personally thought the game was another boring oblivion style game that they developed. then again i dislike games of this genre anyway
I'm pretty much on your level. Big fan of FO1/2, tried 3 out but didn't really like it. I finished the game but I found it extremely boring. Not sure if New Vegas is any different, but it isn't developed by Bethesda (thank god) so I have a glimmer of hope. I am considering picking it up.