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Poll: A true toggle for HP bars (ALT + F style)Give the user a true toggle option for HP bars. (155) 88% Don't need HP bar true toggle. (21) 12% 176 total votes Your vote: A true toggle for HP bars (ALT + F style) (Vote): Give the user a true toggle option for HP bars. (Vote): Don't need HP bar true toggle.
Having a true toggle (like the ALT+F type toggle for colors) for HP bars would be extremely beneficial to players, analysts, spectators, and commentators. Everyone's favortie guy Day[9] even mentioned a while back in a daily that it was very hard for him to "parse" all the hp bars. So I know I'm not alone in this.
Players have to use HP bars the majority of the time, but situations arise where you need to see the units without the clutter. Like in FF at ramp situations, late game mass army battles, ling vs. baneling, marine micro vs. baneling, etc. The current ALT toggle is only temporary, and is not practical when you have a split second to cast FF, avoid a baneling, etc.
When watching videos or the GSL, there are plenty of times when turning HP bars on for a while or off for a while make a lot of sense just for ease of viewing.
Why is this not a true toggle option? So I thought it was too late for this, but Blizz is still making major improvements to UI. I would love to see this addition!
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This feature is long overdue, hope to see it happen as well as the ability to lock that dumb right on control group button.
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Maybe I'm wrong, but can't you do that (as a spectator/watching replays) when you press "H"?
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You can press and hold ALT to turn them off when you need to...
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I would love this actually, but I've played with them both on and off.
Perhaps if you have ranged vs ranged armies it's good but as I play zerg it turns into a huge mess whenever I engage so it's just not worth it.
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On December 09 2010 02:30 Moody wrote: You can press and hold ALT to turn them off when you need to... Read before you post. He and everyone else are talking about a toggle, not an 'on hold' command.
This feature is long long long LONG overdue, and I really hope they consider putting this into patch 1.2 before it goes live.
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yes indeed. feature needs to be added. I honestly dont think its that difficult to incorporate, just need more steam and support.
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On December 09 2010 03:07 Hypatio wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2010 02:30 Moody wrote: You can press and hold ALT to turn them off when you need to... Read before you post. He and everyone else are talking about a toggle, not an 'on hold' command. This feature is long long long LONG overdue, and I really hope they consider putting this into patch 1.2 before it goes live.
I'm pretty sure he's disagreeing with the poll and saying you don't need a true toggle.... maybe you should read. Not everyone has to agree with the OP, especially if it gives you the option not to.
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On December 09 2010 02:30 Moody wrote: You can press and hold ALT to turn them off when you need to...
It's not good enough, IMO.
What happens if you want to press ALT to turn off HP bars to see zerglings at your ramp more clearly, then you press F to cast forcefield? Did you just change team colors and not cast a spell? You also don't really have time to press ALT considering you can easily miss the FF even without an extra button to press. It is no surprise players just make due and look at flying HP bars instead of the actual zerglings to approximate... but I'm pretty sure if there was a true toggle a lot of players would turn it off when a ramp break was a possibility. I mean you really don't care if the lings are at 10 HP or 35 HP when there are 30 of them at your front door. But you do definitely care exactly where they are.
If you are a commentator/analyst, should you be expected to hold down ALT for 20 seconds at a time in a huge end game battle with lots of flying units over ground units where basically nothing is visible... wouldn't it be nice to turn off HP bars for 10 seconds to see what is what? Should you constantly flip between HP bars and not (ugly)? What if you need to click on the minimap... now you have to let go of ALT... then press it again a split second later when you go back to the battle, etc. It's just very cumbersome.
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What I would love to see is an option to show healthbars only on units and structures that aren't at 100% life.
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On December 09 2010 04:13 GLayne wrote: What I would love to see is an option to show healthbars only on units and structures that aren't at 100% life.
I agree with that. I've been trying to think of disadvantages for this implementation but I simply can't.
Health bars should slowly fade away when a previously damaged unit gets healed, so its not an abrupt transition from damaged to full hp.
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I support this. Hell just make it alt! on/off toggle rather than hold down sounds amazing.
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I would use this, I play with them off as zerg now because its really hard to get a true grasp of how many units you have with roaches banes and lings and even muttas when all you see is green bars...
what I would love the most is the option to choose permanently which units/buildings shows HP/progress bars.
HP bars on: queens and all buildings HP bars off: rest of the units
thoughts?
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yea there should defeintely be a toggle option for this. why should i have to hold down the alt key? that's ridiculous..
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this would be very useful, ive been just hovering over my units looking for guys to micro lol
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I have them always on, and wouldn't ever use it. That said adding it in for the people who do, would be fine. I think the more options like these that we can toggle the better the experience can be because it can be customized to each person's preference.
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I'd prefer to have an option to show health bars for injured units only, as well.
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In the PTR I changed show health to a button on the side of my mouse. It's not perfect, but it goes a long way. I still really want a toggle though. I can't imagine why they don't give the option, since toggling health bars is already in the game, it's just limited to observers. They don't even have to assign it to a key, just put it as an assignable option in the hotkey configuration menu.
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Somewhat of a different question, but does anyone that has been on PTR know if you can change the key you hold down to see HP bars? Left Alt is my talk key in ventrilo and sometimes it can be annoying for the bars to pop up (I play with show only bars on selected units) every time I talk.
nevermind, thank you Grimace ^^
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