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On October 27 2011 02:04 jj33 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2011 21:11 Slyce wrote: As a non-BW player I find it hard to get excited about this stuff.
Do people genuinely think that really good BW players will just instantly be amazing at SC2? Yes. The skills translate from bw to sc2 seamlessly. MVP and Nestea I believe were the best bw players that have been playing sc2 and look at their success. Guys like Puma, Idra, MC were just B teamers and look how good they are in sc2. There is no reason on any level to think anybody who was good at bw would suck at sc2. Not nestea, and it still took them awhile. It'll still take time.
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I can't say that i'm a BW-fan, but i'm getting fucking hyped by stuff like this shit!
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On October 27 2011 02:04 jj33 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2011 21:11 Slyce wrote: As a non-BW player I find it hard to get excited about this stuff.
Do people genuinely think that really good BW players will just instantly be amazing at SC2? Yes. The skills translate from bw to sc2 seamlessly. MVP and Nestea I believe were the best bw players that have been playing sc2 and look at their success. Guys like Puma, Idra, MC were just B teamers and look how good they are in sc2. There is no reason on any level to think anybody who was good at bw would suck at sc2.
Except Yellow, Right? Oh, Nada is pretty mediocre at the moment, despite his multitude of accomplishments. July yet to take even a finals, I believe. Nestea, MVP, DRG, MMA etc etc were B-Teamers. They probably started practicing as soon as the beta hit. That's why they got so good. *Embraces the incoming flames of hatred*
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On October 27 2011 02:14 Remb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2011 02:04 jj33 wrote:On October 26 2011 21:11 Slyce wrote: As a non-BW player I find it hard to get excited about this stuff.
Do people genuinely think that really good BW players will just instantly be amazing at SC2? Yes. The skills translate from bw to sc2 seamlessly. MVP and Nestea I believe were the best bw players that have been playing sc2 and look at their success. Guys like Puma, Idra, MC were just B teamers and look how good they are in sc2. There is no reason on any level to think anybody who was good at bw would suck at sc2. Except Yellow, Right? Oh, Nada is pretty mediocre at the moment, despite his multitude of accomplishments. July yet to take even a finals, I believe. Nestea, MVP, DRG, MMA etc etc were B-Teamers. They probably started practicing as soon as the beta hit. That's why they got so good. *Embraces the incoming flames of hatred* Yellow spent what, a fews on SC2? Nada is not mediocre, he is doing amazing for playing during his college studies. July is a top SC2 zerg.
Lots of other players started practicing at beta too. Are they better than MVP, Nestea, DRG, MMA, or July? No.
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Very exciting news! Hope we see some sick timings from him
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On October 27 2011 02:14 Remb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2011 02:04 jj33 wrote:On October 26 2011 21:11 Slyce wrote: As a non-BW player I find it hard to get excited about this stuff.
Do people genuinely think that really good BW players will just instantly be amazing at SC2? Yes. The skills translate from bw to sc2 seamlessly. MVP and Nestea I believe were the best bw players that have been playing sc2 and look at their success. Guys like Puma, Idra, MC were just B teamers and look how good they are in sc2. There is no reason on any level to think anybody who was good at bw would suck at sc2. Except Yellow, Right? Oh, Nada is pretty mediocre at the moment, despite his multitude of accomplishments. July yet to take even a finals, I believe. Nestea, MVP, DRG, MMA etc etc were B-Teamers. They probably started practicing as soon as the beta hit. That's why they got so good. *Embraces the incoming flames of hatred*
Um Yellow Nada and maybe july were all starcraft 1 relics. They were nowhere close to being a teamers at the end of their BW career i believe. MVP and MMA were all closer to the A team than Nada Or yellow or probably July at the end of their BW careers.
ForGG did well in the Flash/Jaedong era, which was after players like Nada/Boxer/Yellow had all their accomplishments and the skill level rose so high these old legends couldn't keep up. Thats why we are all so pumped about it. It means ForGG is at least as mechanically good as MVP. And we all know MVP is probably the best in terms of mechanics in SC2.
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On October 27 2011 02:14 Remb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2011 02:04 jj33 wrote:On October 26 2011 21:11 Slyce wrote: As a non-BW player I find it hard to get excited about this stuff.
Do people genuinely think that really good BW players will just instantly be amazing at SC2? Yes. The skills translate from bw to sc2 seamlessly. MVP and Nestea I believe were the best bw players that have been playing sc2 and look at their success. Guys like Puma, Idra, MC were just B teamers and look how good they are in sc2. There is no reason on any level to think anybody who was good at bw would suck at sc2. Except Yellow, Right? Oh, Nada is pretty mediocre at the moment, despite his multitude of accomplishments. July yet to take even a finals, I believe. Nestea, MVP, DRG, MMA etc etc were B-Teamers. They probably started practicing as soon as the beta hit. That's why they got so good. *Embraces the incoming flames of hatred*
It's not necessarily about their accomplishments, but more like how recent their accomplishments were and their overall skill level at the time when they switched over.
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Holy mother's cow ... Can't wait to cheer for him xD
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On October 27 2011 02:14 Remb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2011 02:04 jj33 wrote:On October 26 2011 21:11 Slyce wrote: As a non-BW player I find it hard to get excited about this stuff.
Do people genuinely think that really good BW players will just instantly be amazing at SC2? Yes. The skills translate from bw to sc2 seamlessly. MVP and Nestea I believe were the best bw players that have been playing sc2 and look at their success. Guys like Puma, Idra, MC were just B teamers and look how good they are in sc2. There is no reason on any level to think anybody who was good at bw would suck at sc2. Except Yellow, Right? Oh, Nada is pretty mediocre at the moment, despite his multitude of accomplishments. July yet to take even a finals, I believe. Nestea, MVP, DRG, MMA etc etc were B-Teamers. They probably started practicing as soon as the beta hit. That's why they got so good. *Embraces the incoming flames of hatred*
I don't think Yellow had any real interest in SC2. Nada is focusing on university at the same time. Results-wise July is easily one of the best zergs and he often lost to really strong players, such as MVP, DRG, Bomber and MC. I won't commet on Nestea, MVP, DRG or MMA since I don't know and you're only speculating anyway without any evidence. But with that being said, I don't think the skills translate seamlessly.
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best player to switch over, he will make it to code s first try.
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I'm so hyped for this. The fact that he is the only terran to qualify for code A is a good sign :D, terran is so hard / weak right now (a lot of good players like Hack, Shuttle (not sure) and Thebest didnt not qualify), I hope that he will still be able to go to code S in his first try.
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I don't get why OP brought up KT/Blizzcon thing. ForGG retired quite awhile ago, not recently. And Bisu and Fantasy playing SC2? Cmon what else were they going to do there besides watch the GSL finals. If you see Kobe Bryant playing soccer, do you see that as a sign of him switching to professional soccer?
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On October 27 2011 02:14 Remb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2011 02:04 jj33 wrote:On October 26 2011 21:11 Slyce wrote: As a non-BW player I find it hard to get excited about this stuff.
Do people genuinely think that really good BW players will just instantly be amazing at SC2? Yes. The skills translate from bw to sc2 seamlessly. MVP and Nestea I believe were the best bw players that have been playing sc2 and look at their success. Guys like Puma, Idra, MC were just B teamers and look how good they are in sc2. There is no reason on any level to think anybody who was good at bw would suck at sc2. Except Yellow, Right? Oh, Nada is pretty mediocre at the moment, despite his multitude of accomplishments. July yet to take even a finals, I believe. Nestea, MVP, DRG, MMA etc etc were B-Teamers. They probably started practicing as soon as the beta hit. That's why they got so good. *Embraces the incoming flames of hatred*
MVP was an A-teamer. Get your facts right before spewing nonsense.
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Good on ForGG. He was a great BW-Terran and I hope he has a lot of success in Code A
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On October 27 2011 02:14 Remb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2011 02:04 jj33 wrote:On October 26 2011 21:11 Slyce wrote: As a non-BW player I find it hard to get excited about this stuff.
Do people genuinely think that really good BW players will just instantly be amazing at SC2? Yes. The skills translate from bw to sc2 seamlessly. MVP and Nestea I believe were the best bw players that have been playing sc2 and look at their success. Guys like Puma, Idra, MC were just B teamers and look how good they are in sc2. There is no reason on any level to think anybody who was good at bw would suck at sc2. Except Yellow, Right? Oh, Nada is pretty mediocre at the moment, despite his multitude of accomplishments. July yet to take even a finals, I believe. Nestea, MVP, DRG, MMA etc etc were B-Teamers. They probably started practicing as soon as the beta hit. That's why they got so good. *Embraces the incoming flames of hatred*
That's funny you said you're ready for incoming flames of hatred, when it seems in your post you're the one with the agression.
I don't think I need to say anything, since it seems a bunch of people agree with me and have already responded to you.
You haven't disproved anything I said.
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On October 27 2011 02:22 poorcloud wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2011 02:14 Remb wrote:On October 27 2011 02:04 jj33 wrote:On October 26 2011 21:11 Slyce wrote: As a non-BW player I find it hard to get excited about this stuff.
Do people genuinely think that really good BW players will just instantly be amazing at SC2? Yes. The skills translate from bw to sc2 seamlessly. MVP and Nestea I believe were the best bw players that have been playing sc2 and look at their success. Guys like Puma, Idra, MC were just B teamers and look how good they are in sc2. There is no reason on any level to think anybody who was good at bw would suck at sc2. Except Yellow, Right? Oh, Nada is pretty mediocre at the moment, despite his multitude of accomplishments. July yet to take even a finals, I believe. Nestea, MVP, DRG, MMA etc etc were B-Teamers. They probably started practicing as soon as the beta hit. That's why they got so good. *Embraces the incoming flames of hatred* Um Yellow Nada and maybe july were all starcraft 1 relics. They were nowhere close to being a teamers at the end of their BW career i believe. MVP and MMA were all closer to the A team than Nada Or yellow or probably July at the end of their BW careers. ForGG did well in the Flash/Jaedong era, which was after players like Nada/Boxer/Yellow had all their accomplishments and the skill level rose so high these old legends couldn't keep up. Thats why we are all so pumped about it. It means ForGG is at least as mechanically good as MVP. And we all know MVP is probably the best in terms of mechanics in SC2.
I've never even heard of MMA until this year lol
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On October 27 2011 02:43 Dreamer.T wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2011 02:14 Remb wrote:On October 27 2011 02:04 jj33 wrote:On October 26 2011 21:11 Slyce wrote: As a non-BW player I find it hard to get excited about this stuff.
Do people genuinely think that really good BW players will just instantly be amazing at SC2? Yes. The skills translate from bw to sc2 seamlessly. MVP and Nestea I believe were the best bw players that have been playing sc2 and look at their success. Guys like Puma, Idra, MC were just B teamers and look how good they are in sc2. There is no reason on any level to think anybody who was good at bw would suck at sc2. Except Yellow, Right? Oh, Nada is pretty mediocre at the moment, despite his multitude of accomplishments. July yet to take even a finals, I believe. Nestea, MVP, DRG, MMA etc etc were B-Teamers. They probably started practicing as soon as the beta hit. That's why they got so good. *Embraces the incoming flames of hatred* MVP was an A-teamer. Get your facts right before spewing nonsense.
Yes, he's one of the few SCII players who have had the distinction of being able to take a game off God-Mode Flash in a starleague.
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On October 26 2011 21:11 Slyce wrote: As a non-BW player I find it hard to get excited about this stuff.
Do people genuinely think that really good BW players will just instantly be amazing at SC2?
Considering the best players today are old BW players? Yes. Also forgot to mention that BW was harder to master mechanically, so if you could master BW you can master sc2. It's kind of like saying, oh this guy was really good at soccer. Do you think he'd make a good field goal kicker in American football?
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Am I the only one surprised he made it in? I always believed brood war players could be dominant if they switch over but seriously, code A the 2nd or 3rd most competitive tournament in the world. When did he switch over, it seems like the news only broke a month ago and he is already in code fucking A?
That is incredible, I didn't believe that an A-team BW pro could truly rise to the top in that short of a time. If the highest tier switches at any point, god help us all.
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I still think Fin is a better name than ForGG.
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