Floyd Mayweather Jeremy Lin is a good player but all the hype is because he's Asian. Black players do what he does every night and don't get the same praise.
If only Floyd could point out all these black players that go through college without a basketball scholarship at an Ivy League school and dominate out of nowhere in the NBA after going undrafted.
You need a lot of money to go to an Ivy League school without a scholarship, and that's the main barrier for most players. And if Lin had gone to Stanford or Syracuse or Florida State, he'd still receive the same amount of hype for being an Asian American. I don't think anything is fundamentally wrong with what Mayweather said.
Emeka Okafor graduated in 3 years with honors and a 3.8 GPA in finance. It got some play at the time, but really no one cares about it. If he were Asian or Jewish (remember Tamir Goodman, "The Jewish Jordan"?) or some other underrepresented group, it'd be huge. It shouldn't be a knock against anyone though, it seems pretty natural to root for someone from your ethnicity, location, religion, school, hobby, etc.
What's probably more racist than anything else are the comparisons Lin is getting to Steve Nash, just because they both have white skin. Maybe I need to watch more, but I really don't see many similarities between them at all, or where people get the idea that Lin is a "true" ie pass first point guard. Granted, the Knicks don't have much offensive talent at the moment so someone needs to step up, but that doesn't mean you can call him a pass first point guard when he's averaging over 19 shots per game. Not to mention he's a turnover machine at over 4 per game.
Nash is a small and quick guy that out thinks a lot of people and is a deadly shooter. Lin is not particularly quick and isn't a great shooter (at least so far) and he's not a small guy. I haven't seen enough to know how smart he is (he seems to have good awareness) but he's a 6'3" 200lbs guy who takes it himself a lot and seems to be a really good finisher. He's also a much more active rebounder.
It really does remain to be seen how he'll fit in with Amare and (more importantly) Carmelo, because he's only gone through spurts where he's a pass first PG and the rest of the time he's been a bit of a black hole (just like Carmelo), even against defenders he shouldn't try going against.
Honestly, anyone who compares him to Nash at this point should immediately be called a racist. The only reasonable point of comparison is that they're playing under the same coach and pretty soon they will have shared a big man, but at this point in time there's nothing else between them. Mostly people are doing it because their skin has a similar hue. If Steve Blake suddenly could make a Sportscenter highlight, he'd be getting the same dumb treatment. Although at least Blake really is a pass first PG.
At the very least, he's got me interested in the Knicks because it's tiring to see the ball in Carmelo's hands all the time. I'll cheer for him and I'm glad a smart kid who went undrafted is putting on a show, but through 5 games he doesn't look like anything beyond a scoring PG and those are a dime a dozen in the NBA.
EDIT: I like the comparison to Sam Cassell a lot lot lot lot more.
Will the Linsanity continue tonight with Stoudemire? and Why don't teams just double team him off his screen to force ball out of his hands. The Twolves did a good job rotating another big to guard Chandler when they double Lin off the screen. I think teams needs to do more of that.
Floyd Mayweather Jeremy Lin is a good player but all the hype is because he's Asian. Black players do what he does every night and don't get the same praise.
If only Floyd could point out all these black players that go through college without a basketball scholarship at an Ivy League school and dominate out of nowhere in the NBA after going undrafted.
You need a lot of money to go to an Ivy League school without a scholarship, and that's the main barrier for most players. And if Lin had gone to Stanford or Syracuse or Florida State, he'd still receive the same amount of hype for being an Asian American. I don't think anything is fundamentally wrong with what Mayweather said.
Emeka Okafor graduated in 3 years with honors and a 3.8 GPA in finance. It got some play at the time, but really no one cares about it. If he were Asian or Jewish (remember Tamir Goodman, "The Jewish Jordan"?) or some other underrepresented group, it'd be huge. It shouldn't be a knock against anyone though, it seems pretty natural to root for someone from your ethnicity, location, religion, school, hobby, etc.
What's probably more racist than anything else are the comparisons Lin is getting to Steve Nash, just because they both have white skin. Maybe I need to watch more, but I really don't see many similarities between them at all, or where people get the idea that Lin is a "true" ie pass first point guard. Granted, the Knicks don't have much offensive talent at the moment so someone needs to step up, but that doesn't mean you can call him a pass first point guard when he's averaging over 19 shots per game. Not to mention he's a turnover machine at over 4 per game.
Nash is a small and quick guy that out thinks a lot of people and is a deadly shooter. Lin is not particularly quick and isn't a great shooter (at least so far) and he's not a small guy. I haven't seen enough to know how smart he is (he seems to have good awareness) but he's a 6'3" 200lbs guy who takes it himself a lot and seems to be a really good finisher. He's also a much more active rebounder.
It really does remain to be seen how he'll fit in with Amare and (more importantly) Carmelo, because he's only gone through spurts where he's a pass first PG and the rest of the time he's been a bit of a black hole (just like Carmelo), even against defenders he shouldn't try going against.
Honestly, anyone who compares him to Nash at this point should immediately be called a racist. The only reasonable point of comparison is that they're playing under the same coach and pretty soon they will have shared a big man, but at this point in time there's nothing else between them. Mostly people are doing it because their skin has a similar hue. If Steve Blake suddenly could make a Sportscenter highlight, he'd be getting the same dumb treatment. Although at least Blake really is a pass first PG.
At the very least, he's got me interested in the Knicks because it's tiring to see the ball in Carmelo's hands all the time. I'll cheer for him and I'm glad a smart kid who went undrafted is putting on a show, but through 5 games he doesn't look like anything beyond a scoring PG and those are a dime a dozen in the NBA.
EDIT: I like the comparison to Sam Cassell a lot lot lot lot more.
I think people compare him to Nash not because of their skill sets, but because they are both relatively small pg's who have good passing/handling ability and both of them make their entire team look better than they actually are.
Floyd Mayweather Jeremy Lin is a good player but all the hype is because he's Asian. Black players do what he does every night and don't get the same praise.
If only Floyd could point out all these black players that go through college without a basketball scholarship at an Ivy League school and dominate out of nowhere in the NBA after going undrafted.
You need a lot of money to go to an Ivy League school without a scholarship, and that's the main barrier for most players. And if Lin had gone to Stanford or Syracuse or Florida State, he'd still receive the same amount of hype for being an Asian American. I don't think anything is fundamentally wrong with what Mayweather said.
Emeka Okafor graduated in 3 years with honors and a 3.8 GPA in finance. It got some play at the time, but really no one cares about it. If he were Asian or Jewish (remember Tamir Goodman, "The Jewish Jordan"?) or some other underrepresented group, it'd be huge. It shouldn't be a knock against anyone though, it seems pretty natural to root for someone from your ethnicity, location, religion, school, hobby, etc.
What's probably more racist than anything else are the comparisons Lin is getting to Steve Nash, just because they both have white skin. Maybe I need to watch more, but I really don't see many similarities between them at all, or where people get the idea that Lin is a "true" ie pass first point guard. Granted, the Knicks don't have much offensive talent at the moment so someone needs to step up, but that doesn't mean you can call him a pass first point guard when he's averaging over 19 shots per game. Not to mention he's a turnover machine at over 4 per game.
Nash is a small and quick guy that out thinks a lot of people and is a deadly shooter. Lin is not particularly quick and isn't a great shooter (at least so far) and he's not a small guy. I haven't seen enough to know how smart he is (he seems to have good awareness) but he's a 6'3" 200lbs guy who takes it himself a lot and seems to be a really good finisher. He's also a much more active rebounder.
It really does remain to be seen how he'll fit in with Amare and (more importantly) Carmelo, because he's only gone through spurts where he's a pass first PG and the rest of the time he's been a bit of a black hole (just like Carmelo), even against defenders he shouldn't try going against.
Honestly, anyone who compares him to Nash at this point should immediately be called a racist. The only reasonable point of comparison is that they're playing under the same coach and pretty soon they will have shared a big man, but at this point in time there's nothing else between them. Mostly people are doing it because their skin has a similar hue. If Steve Blake suddenly could make a Sportscenter highlight, he'd be getting the same dumb treatment. Although at least Blake really is a pass first PG.
At the very least, he's got me interested in the Knicks because it's tiring to see the ball in Carmelo's hands all the time. I'll cheer for him and I'm glad a smart kid who went undrafted is putting on a show, but through 5 games he doesn't look like anything beyond a scoring PG and those are a dime a dozen in the NBA.
EDIT: I like the comparison to Sam Cassell a lot lot lot lot more.
I think people compare him to Nash not because of their skill sets, but because they are both relatively small pg's who have good passing/handling ability and both of them make their entire team look better than they actually are.
That's bs. He's got at least 20lbs on Nash and his passing hasn't been anywhere near a Nash/Rubio/Rondo/etc. He made his team look better because he goes pure iso at least half a dozen times per game, and has been winning it against bad or lazy defenders. They don't play the same way at all.
Nash forces people on him because he's a fantastic shooter with incredible quickness. People were playing up on Lin simply because there's no scouting report on him yet. But he's not proving to be a good shooter and he's not as quick. He doesn't drive to pass. He drives to score, and has capitalized on good reads when people begin to play off him.
Hopefully he can adjust and he's just filling the void left by Carmelo and Amare right now, but in the last 5 games everything about him screams shoot first PG.
Floyd Mayweather Jeremy Lin is a good player but all the hype is because he's Asian. Black players do what he does every night and don't get the same praise.
If only Floyd could point out all these black players that go through college without a basketball scholarship at an Ivy League school and dominate out of nowhere in the NBA after going undrafted.
You need a lot of money to go to an Ivy League school without a scholarship, and that's the main barrier for most players. And if Lin had gone to Stanford or Syracuse or Florida State, he'd still receive the same amount of hype for being an Asian American. I don't think anything is fundamentally wrong with what Mayweather said.
Emeka Okafor graduated in 3 years with honors and a 3.8 GPA in finance. It got some play at the time, but really no one cares about it. If he were Asian or Jewish (remember Tamir Goodman, "The Jewish Jordan"?) or some other underrepresented group, it'd be huge. It shouldn't be a knock against anyone though, it seems pretty natural to root for someone from your ethnicity, location, religion, school, hobby, etc.
What's probably more racist than anything else are the comparisons Lin is getting to Steve Nash, just because they both have white skin. Maybe I need to watch more, but I really don't see many similarities between them at all, or where people get the idea that Lin is a "true" ie pass first point guard. Granted, the Knicks don't have much offensive talent at the moment so someone needs to step up, but that doesn't mean you can call him a pass first point guard when he's averaging over 19 shots per game. Not to mention he's a turnover machine at over 4 per game.
Nash is a small and quick guy that out thinks a lot of people and is a deadly shooter. Lin is not particularly quick and isn't a great shooter (at least so far) and he's not a small guy. I haven't seen enough to know how smart he is (he seems to have good awareness) but he's a 6'3" 200lbs guy who takes it himself a lot and seems to be a really good finisher. He's also a much more active rebounder.
It really does remain to be seen how he'll fit in with Amare and (more importantly) Carmelo, because he's only gone through spurts where he's a pass first PG and the rest of the time he's been a bit of a black hole (just like Carmelo), even against defenders he shouldn't try going against.
Honestly, anyone who compares him to Nash at this point should immediately be called a racist. The only reasonable point of comparison is that they're playing under the same coach and pretty soon they will have shared a big man, but at this point in time there's nothing else between them. Mostly people are doing it because their skin has a similar hue. If Steve Blake suddenly could make a Sportscenter highlight, he'd be getting the same dumb treatment. Although at least Blake really is a pass first PG.
At the very least, he's got me interested in the Knicks because it's tiring to see the ball in Carmelo's hands all the time. I'll cheer for him and I'm glad a smart kid who went undrafted is putting on a show, but through 5 games he doesn't look like anything beyond a scoring PG and those are a dime a dozen in the NBA.
EDIT: I like the comparison to Sam Cassell a lot lot lot lot more.
I think people compare him to Nash not because of their skill sets, but because they are both relatively small pg's who have good passing/handling ability and both of them make their entire team look better than they actually are.
That's bs. He's got at least 20lbs on Nash and his passing hasn't been anywhere near a Nash/Rubio/Rondo/etc. He made his team look better because he goes pure iso at least half a dozen times per game, and has been winning it against bad defenders. They don't play the same way at all.
Well, yes. They obviously play differently. I'm just saying it seems that way to a lot of people. He's a point guard that the Knicks (without Melo or Stoudmire) would be completely hopeless without him, and would have loss the last 5 games badly. Same way the Suns would be complete garbage without Nash.
The same is true for Tyreke Evans and Ty Lawson and Rajon Rondo and Deron Williams and Kyle Lowry and Rose and Brandon Jennings and Kyrie Irving and ...
"Essential PG" doesn't exactly qualify you for Steve Nash comparisons. Especially when there's a plethora of scoring guards, these days.
I lol'd hard when Magic Johnson compared Lin to a mix between Nash and Stockton, like how racist can you be? Lin is a big point guard, he's more like, or is a combo guard forced to switch to PG in the NBA. He was the main option for Harvard, and now the Knicks because Melo/Amare are gone and no one else can create their own shot. Lin does not finish like most point guards, he straight up outmuscles people if he doesn't blow by them, and he's strong enough to take contact inside and finish. Not really sure who a comparison would be, maybe a less athletic, smarter, doesn't kill an offense Marbury, a bigger, less creative scoring wise, poor man's Tony Parker. Can't think of anyone else.
With that said, his best qualities are poise and basketball intelligence, which are harder to notice and much more rare than a polished offensive skillset or physical attributes.
Floyd Mayweather Jeremy Lin is a good player but all the hype is because he's Asian. Black players do what he does every night and don't get the same praise.
If only Floyd could point out all these black players that go through college without a basketball scholarship at an Ivy League school and dominate out of nowhere in the NBA after going undrafted.
You need a lot of money to go to an Ivy League school without a scholarship, and that's the main barrier for most players. And if Lin had gone to Stanford or Syracuse or Florida State, he'd still receive the same amount of hype for being an Asian American. I don't think anything is fundamentally wrong with what Mayweather said.
Emeka Okafor graduated in 3 years with honors and a 3.8 GPA in finance. It got some play at the time, but really no one cares about it. If he were Asian or Jewish (remember Tamir Goodman, "The Jewish Jordan"?) or some other underrepresented group, it'd be huge. It shouldn't be a knock against anyone though, it seems pretty natural to root for someone from your ethnicity, location, religion, school, hobby, etc.
EDIT: I like the comparison to Sam Cassell a lot lot lot lot more.
I guess I must've missed the part where Okafor came out of nowhere to dominate 5 straight games in the biggest market in the NBA? Okafor is actually the opposite of Lin, he had plenty of hype when he arrived in the league but never really delivered.
If Lin was black he's still get a lot of attention, the fact that he's the first in his demographic to do well only adds to that. But regardless of what you think about the race issue, what he's done is very impressive and unique. I believe he had one of the best performances for a first start in NBA history...
Honestly, anyone who compares him to Nash at this point should immediately be called a racist. The only reasonable point of comparison is that they're playing under the same coach and pretty soon they will have shared a big man, but at this point in time there's nothing else between them. Mostly people are doing it because their skin has a similar hue. If Steve Blake suddenly could make a Sportscenter highlight, he'd be getting the same dumb treatment. Although at least Blake really is a pass first PG.
You make an silly statement, then give perfectly valid counter arguments... with D'antoni and Stoudemire the Nash comparisons are tempting. People make dumb comparisons all the time, no reason to get that jumpy because of Lin's origins.
I like the comparison to Sam Cassell a lot lot lot lot more.
Lin hasn't played serious time with Stoudemire yet. That's an invalid argument to the Nash comparison. Everyone that talks about him being a pass first PG is flat out wrong, to this point in his career. It's an assumption because his skin is light and in the last 20 or 30 years basically every white point guard was pass first.
Floyd Mayweather Jeremy Lin is a good player but all the hype is because he's Asian. Black players do what he does every night and don't get the same praise.
If only Floyd could point out all these black players that go through college without a basketball scholarship at an Ivy League school and dominate out of nowhere in the NBA after going undrafted.
You need a lot of money to go to an Ivy League school without a scholarship, and that's the main barrier for most players. And if Lin had gone to Stanford or Syracuse or Florida State, he'd still receive the same amount of hype for being an Asian American. I don't think anything is fundamentally wrong with what Mayweather said.
Emeka Okafor graduated in 3 years with honors and a 3.8 GPA in finance. It got some play at the time, but really no one cares about it. If he were Asian or Jewish (remember Tamir Goodman, "The Jewish Jordan"?) or some other underrepresented group, it'd be huge. It shouldn't be a knock against anyone though, it seems pretty natural to root for someone from your ethnicity, location, religion, school, hobby, etc.
What's probably more racist than anything else are the comparisons Lin is getting to Steve Nash, just because they both have white skin. Maybe I need to watch more, but I really don't see many similarities between them at all, or where people get the idea that Lin is a "true" ie pass first point guard. Granted, the Knicks don't have much offensive talent at the moment so someone needs to step up, but that doesn't mean you can call him a pass first point guard when he's averaging over 19 shots per game. Not to mention he's a turnover machine at over 4 per game.
Nash is a small and quick guy that out thinks a lot of people and is a deadly shooter. Lin is not particularly quick and isn't a great shooter (at least so far) and he's not a small guy. I haven't seen enough to know how smart he is (he seems to have good awareness) but he's a 6'3" 200lbs guy who takes it himself a lot and seems to be a really good finisher. He's also a much more active rebounder.
It really does remain to be seen how he'll fit in with Amare and (more importantly) Carmelo, because he's only gone through spurts where he's a pass first PG and the rest of the time he's been a bit of a black hole (just like Carmelo), even against defenders he shouldn't try going against.
Honestly, anyone who compares him to Nash at this point should immediately be called a racist. The only reasonable point of comparison is that they're playing under the same coach and pretty soon they will have shared a big man, but at this point in time there's nothing else between them. Mostly people are doing it because their skin has a similar hue. If Steve Blake suddenly could make a Sportscenter highlight, he'd be getting the same dumb treatment. Although at least Blake really is a pass first PG.
At the very least, he's got me interested in the Knicks because it's tiring to see the ball in Carmelo's hands all the time. I'll cheer for him and I'm glad a smart kid who went undrafted is putting on a show, but through 5 games he doesn't look like anything beyond a scoring PG and those are a dime a dozen in the NBA.
EDIT: I like the comparison to Sam Cassell a lot lot lot lot more.
Why do you think Jackie Robinson got such huge hype? He was the first black MLB player and he was good. Why do you think Eminem got such huge hype? He might not have been the first white mainstream rapper, but he was the best white mainstream rapper by far (arguable the best mainstream rapper regardless of race).
Is it really such a surprise to you that Jeremy Lin is getting hype because of his race? There are pretty much no Asian-Americans in the NBA, ever. People don't think Asians can play ball, so when an Asian shows up who actually has skill no shit hes gonna be famous because of his race. Its not because people are racist against black people that Jeremy Lin is getting props, its because people are racist against Asians that he is. Floyd Mayweather's comment isn't completely untrue at face value, but he obviously thinks its because people are racist against blacks when it comes to the NBA when it clearly is the other way around. Floyd Mayweather's abysmal cognitive ability just can't seem to grasp that simple notion.
Also, getting good grades at UConn (which is not even a top 50 school unless Im mistaken) is not nearly as impressive as getting good grades at Harvard. What do people know UConn for? Basketball, pretty much. What is Harvard known for? Getting your ass kicked in terms of academia. If you can play great basketball and get good grades at a school as tough as Harvard, no shit youre gonna get more attention than someone who went to UConn.
And how the hell did you draw racism from comparisons between Lin and Nash? Mike d'Antoni orchestrated an impressive offense with Nash leading as PG. Now with Lin bringing Knicks back into the light as PG who wouldn't naturally think of making a comparison with Nash? I can't believe you drew comparisons between us Asians and Caucasians based on skin color. So what, were 'yellow' skinned when white people want to hate on us and were 'white' skinned when other minorities want to hate on us? What the fuck is this? There's nothing racist about comparing 2 PGs who are succeeding under d'Antoni. There's everything racist about you saying people only compare Lin to Nash because Lin is pretty much white, as if we Asians don't count for shit except for the fact our skin tone is somewhat more similar to caucasians.
Seriously, re-read your post from an objective point of view and please tell me how your post shouldn't piss off an Asian-American.
PS - It also sounds like you only watch the highlight reels. Just because his highlights aren't all assists doesn't mean hes not passing the ball a lot.
When Tiger Woods created a lot of hype; it was mainly because an African American person was doing well in what most people would call a "White" sport.
Of course, we all know Tiger did more than create hype; he's actually probably the most legendary golfer.. But still.. would he receive the same hype if he was white? I personally don't think so. He would get respect from the golfing community but would the African American community care? Lol.. probably not. If Tiger Woods were white, I'm sure African Americans would just think.. it's just another white dude playing some white sport, whatever.
But the fact that Tiger is African American only added to his legacy. If that's ok for people to accept..
Then it should be ok for people to accept the hype for J.Lin. Most people I talk to seem to be fine with that.. but Mayweather.. what an ass.
On February 14 2012 12:03 Jibba wrote: Lin hasn't played serious time with Stoudemire yet. That's an invalid argument to the Nash comparison. Everyone that talks about him being a pass first PG is flat out wrong, to this point in his career. It's an assumption because his skin is light and in the last 20 or 30 years basically every white point guard was pass first.
And he plays like Sam Cassell did.
He's a well rounded player. How can you say he's a raw scorer? He puts in 30 points, 8 assists, making clutch plays on both ends and is playing decent defense. He has gotten major time(referring to your pervious comments) and he will continue to play major minutes.
Floyd Mayweather Jeremy Lin is a good player but all the hype is because he's Asian. Black players do what he does every night and don't get the same praise.
If only Floyd could point out all these black players that go through college without a basketball scholarship at an Ivy League school and dominate out of nowhere in the NBA after going undrafted.
You need a lot of money to go to an Ivy League school without a scholarship, and that's the main barrier for most players. And if Lin had gone to Stanford or Syracuse or Florida State, he'd still receive the same amount of hype for being an Asian American. I don't think anything is fundamentally wrong with what Mayweather said.
Emeka Okafor graduated in 3 years with honors and a 3.8 GPA in finance. It got some play at the time, but really no one cares about it. If he were Asian or Jewish (remember Tamir Goodman, "The Jewish Jordan"?) or some other underrepresented group, it'd be huge. It shouldn't be a knock against anyone though, it seems pretty natural to root for someone from your ethnicity, location, religion, school, hobby, etc.
What's probably more racist than anything else are the comparisons Lin is getting to Steve Nash, just because they both have white skin. Maybe I need to watch more, but I really don't see many similarities between them at all, or where people get the idea that Lin is a "true" ie pass first point guard. Granted, the Knicks don't have much offensive talent at the moment so someone needs to step up, but that doesn't mean you can call him a pass first point guard when he's averaging over 19 shots per game. Not to mention he's a turnover machine at over 4 per game.
Nash is a small and quick guy that out thinks a lot of people and is a deadly shooter. Lin is not particularly quick and isn't a great shooter (at least so far) and he's not a small guy. I haven't seen enough to know how smart he is (he seems to have good awareness) but he's a 6'3" 200lbs guy who takes it himself a lot and seems to be a really good finisher. He's also a much more active rebounder.
It really does remain to be seen how he'll fit in with Amare and (more importantly) Carmelo, because he's only gone through spurts where he's a pass first PG and the rest of the time he's been a bit of a black hole (just like Carmelo), even against defenders he shouldn't try going against.
Honestly, anyone who compares him to Nash at this point should immediately be called a racist. The only reasonable point of comparison is that they're playing under the same coach and pretty soon they will have shared a big man, but at this point in time there's nothing else between them. Mostly people are doing it because their skin has a similar hue. If Steve Blake suddenly could make a Sportscenter highlight, he'd be getting the same dumb treatment. Although at least Blake really is a pass first PG.
At the very least, he's got me interested in the Knicks because it's tiring to see the ball in Carmelo's hands all the time. I'll cheer for him and I'm glad a smart kid who went undrafted is putting on a show, but through 5 games he doesn't look like anything beyond a scoring PG and those are a dime a dozen in the NBA.
EDIT: I like the comparison to Sam Cassell a lot lot lot lot more.
Why do you think Jackie Robinson got such huge hype? He was the first black MLB player and he was good. Why do you think Eminem got such huge hype? He might not have been the first white mainstream rapper, but he was the best white mainstream rapper by far (arguable the best mainstream rapper regardless of race).
Is it really such a surprise to you that Jeremy Lin is getting hype because of his race? There are pretty much no Asian-Americans in the NBA, ever. People don't think Asians can play ball, so when an Asian shows up who actually has skill no shit hes gonna be famous because of his race. Its not because people are racist against black people that Jeremy Lin is getting props, its because people are racist against Asians that he is. Floyd Mayweather's comment isn't completely untrue at face value, but he obviously thinks its because people are racist against blacks when it comes to the NBA when it clearly is the other way around. Floyd Mayweather's abysmal cognitive ability just can't seem to grasp that simple notion.
No, it goes both ways.
Also, getting good grades at UConn (which is not even a top 50 school unless Im mistaken) is not nearly as impressive as getting good grades at Harvard. What do people know UConn for? Basketball, pretty much. What is Harvard known for? Getting your ass kicked in terms of academia. If you can play great basketball and get good grades at a school as tough as Harvard, no shit youre gonna get more attention than someone who went to UConn.
Are you purposefully dense? Have you gone to college? Graduating with Honors from almost any program is a high scholastic achievement, and UConn is a top 20 public school with a very good business school and financial management program. Beyond that, the people who graduate with Honors and cum laude and above can probably achieve it just about anywhere. The US W&N rankings are hugely meaningless.
And how the hell did you draw racism from comparisons between Lin and Nash? Mike d'Antoni orchestrated an impressive offense with Nash leading as PG. Now with Lin bringing Knicks back into the light as PG who wouldn't naturally think of making a comparison with Nash? I can't believe you drew comparisons between us Asians and Caucasians based on skin color. So what, were 'yellow' skinned when white people want to hate on us and were 'white' skinned when other minorities want to hate on us? What the fuck is this? There's nothing racist about comparing 2 PGs who are succeeding under d'Antoni. There's everything racist about you saying people only compare Lin to Nash because Lin is pretty much white, as if we Asians don't count for shit except for the fact our skin tone is somewhat more similar to caucasians.
Seriously, re-read your post from an objective point of view and please tell me how your post shouldn't piss off an Asian-American.
Well, I'm an Asian-American and I'm not pissed off by my post, so is that a start? Beyond that, I actually watch basketball avidly. I'm not so sure that's the case for most people here.
His play has nothing to do with Nash and d'Antoni isn't even running all the same schemes. Don Nelson coached Steve Nash too. Did anyone start making Nash comparisons when Monta Ellis and Stephen Curry were playing under him? How Tim Hardaway? Baron Davis?
PS - It also sounds like you only watch the highlight reels. Just because his highlights aren't all assists doesn't mean hes not passing the ball a lot.
He was completely dominating the ball against the Lakers, rightfully so because the Lakers have terrible PGs. He tried it against Minnesota and it worked when he didn't have Rubio. He did it against the Wizard, and started gathering assists when they backed off. Assists are not the measure of how a PG distributes or dominates the ball, anyways. His passing is above average, but other scoring guards like Brandon Jennings and Tyreke Evans have tons of games with 8+ assists, and no one confuses them for a true PG.
He's got fresh legs during a shortened season, and he's mopping up when there's no one else on his team worth giving the ball to. We see big numbers from that latter combination all the time. That he stepped it up during a nationally televised game against the Lakers speaks to very good things about his mentality and he certainly displays plenty of charisma, but he's just hugely overhyped. If we were re-doing the 2010 draft, I still wouldn't take him in the first round.
On February 14 2012 14:32 jjun212 wrote: Some journalist said it best I think;
When Tiger Woods created a lot of hype; it was mainly because an African American person was doing well in what most people would call a "White" sport.
Of course, we all know Tiger did more than create hype; he's actually probably the most legendary golfer.. But still.. would he receive the same hype if he was white? I personally don't think so. He would get respect from the golfing community but would the African American community care? Lol.. probably not. If Tiger Woods were white, I'm sure African Americans would just think.. it's just another white dude playing some white sport, whatever.
But the fact that Tiger is African American only added to his legacy. If that's ok for people to accept..
Then it should be ok for people to accept the hype for J.Lin. Most people I talk to seem to be fine with that.. but Mayweather.. what an ass.
Are you seriously what Tiger Woods achieved in his sport to what Lin is doing ? But Ill just repeat, kids looking good in a bad defense season, he can run to the rim and (honestly the help D in the lakers game was trash). Its just to early I'd love him to do well but I'd rather be humble and patient about it instead of calling him the real deal.
Tiger was a prodigy way before anyone realised he was of african american decent. Even so his race has nothing to do with how is seen as a golfer by those who actually like the sport, but you already said that. More importantly his hype had nothing to do with race atleast amongst his own ethnicity. Because there really wasnt that much hype and I remember quite well. Unlike Asians for Lin. African americans still dont really care. Its still a niche sport no matter how much you fluff it up. African Americans already had athletes and heroes they could relate to and still do they never needed Tiger woods to be their Lin. So they didnt really care and still really dont, not the way they would treat an MJ anyway.
Tiger Woods comparison? The most dominant athlete for several years in their sport vs. a top 20 PG who had 4.5 good games in a row during the regular season of a shortened season, when players are exhausted and defense is a luxury until April.
On February 13 2012 00:24 Zlasher wrote: They're not portraying him as a guy who's saving a race or a culture at all, its just showing that there is a truly inspirational story. This is a guy who broke records at his local high school which is, quite literally, 20 feet across the street from Stanford. His dream schools were Pac10 teams like UCLA, which the coach later admitted that Lin was good enough to start for UCLA, but he was only offered walk on positions. Now you tell me a guy who is all around the strongest player in the area, winning player of the year awards for his local conference and upsetting sports powerhouse Mater Dei from socal to win the state championship his senior year, gets zero scholarship offers from Pac10 teams? Race has to be one of those reasons.
Then you look at the fact that he was tearing it up at Harvard, when Harvard faced Santa Clara University (which is like 20 minutes away from his hometown Palo Alto) the whole crowd was cheering for Lin and Harvard and not SCU.
Nobody at the GSW's are holding accountability for being the ones to decide to release Lin after the rookie year. The new head coach even says that he never really looked at Lin and didn't look at the guard position closely (Why?). Nobody wants to admit that they were the ones who didnt' see the potential in this guy, in the largest Asian-American and Taiwanese-American market in the US. You want to believe that nobody in even the GSW's front office got rid of him at least PARTIALLY because he's Asian and they didn't see him as athletic enough, as strong enough, as fast as any other guard in the NBA then you're out of your mind.
On February 13 2012 00:06 AntiGrav1ty wrote: He played in the MLB when there was segregation.
He isn't saving Asian Americans from oppression but keep in mind that Asian-Americans have no place in pop culture or traditional media except as laughing stocks and punchlines. You see that there are almost no Asian Americans signed to major record labels or deals, or in positions in hollywood or television. People ask why a lot of the most subscribed channels on Youtube are Asians well thats because that is the medium for Asians to get any sort of spotlight. I once saw some video I think by Timothydelaghetto answering why all these asians are on youtube, singers, rappers, whatever and why they always hang out together and go to these performances and shows together and he answered with that. That this is the Asian-American medium and embrace it because traditional media doesn't allow for Asians to be a part of it.
Something as simple as a kid who's been looked over his whole life, averaging 25 ppg, 8 apg, 5 rpg, 2 spg in these past 5 games now. Believe it or not, but that IS a step in the direction of heralding a change in culture.
On February 13 2012 00:06 AntiGrav1ty wrote: He played in the MLB when there was segregation. That actually is a fucking big deal.
If you think that there is no segregation or equal rights of Asian Americans in traditional media then you're an idiot.
Recruiting is at a big time level is not about your results in your high school level in basketball or football. Top players play year round against each other all over the country in weekend camps, that is where coaches evaluate most of the talent. And coaches are looking for things other than high school production. A guy with elite athleticism without the basketball smarts or the best shooting touch is often favored because you can't coach size, quickness or the ability to jump out of the gym.
A local example for me is Drake Johnson a local RB. He went to high school across the street from U of Michigan's football stadium. He set the state record for a single season yards, is 6'1" 200Lbs and is a state champion lvl 110 meter hurdler at the D1 level. He barely got an offer despite dominating his high school competition, and being an amazing overall athelete. By barely I mean he got offered in after his senior football season, very late to get an offer if you follow any college football recruiting. I mean I don't follow west coast recruiting for basketball and I might be talking out of my ass. Obviously he had the talent, but if he wasn't participating in the high lvl or national AAU ball it not all that surprising local schools overlooked him. I mean race may have been a factor, but not getting himself the exposure of other recruits likely played a huge role.
Edit: he did play some AAU ball and was offered some walk on spots at UCLA/Cal. Either way guys like him are overlooked by colleges all the time, and to blame it squarely on race is unfair to the coaches that didn't offer him a scholarship. Hell even Harvard wasn't initially going to offer him a spot on the team
“He was like any other average high school players we might see. When I saw his coach, I recommended he go to a Division III school.”
they say him again later and thought he played crazy good, but it wasn't like he was this amazing talent. No one at Harvard would of been willing to say this guy has NBA potential when they were recruiting him.
Anyhow surprised that I didn't see anything in the thread about how big of a douche Jason Whitlock is, going by other incidents he should of possibly lost his job for that tweet, or at least been publicly shamed. Since he a "journalist" he shouldn't be able to get away with
Some lucky lady in NYC is gonna feel a couple inches of pain tonight.
On February 13 2012 00:24 Zlasher wrote: They're not portraying him as a guy who's saving a race or a culture at all, its just showing that there is a truly inspirational story. This is a guy who broke records at his local high school which is, quite literally, 20 feet across the street from Stanford. His dream schools were Pac10 teams like UCLA, which the coach later admitted that Lin was good enough to start for UCLA, but he was only offered walk on positions. Now you tell me a guy who is all around the strongest player in the area, winning player of the year awards for his local conference and upsetting sports powerhouse Mater Dei from socal to win the state championship his senior year, gets zero scholarship offers from Pac10 teams? Race has to be one of those reasons.
Then you look at the fact that he was tearing it up at Harvard, when Harvard faced Santa Clara University (which is like 20 minutes away from his hometown Palo Alto) the whole crowd was cheering for Lin and Harvard and not SCU.
Nobody at the GSW's are holding accountability for being the ones to decide to release Lin after the rookie year. The new head coach even says that he never really looked at Lin and didn't look at the guard position closely (Why?). Nobody wants to admit that they were the ones who didnt' see the potential in this guy, in the largest Asian-American and Taiwanese-American market in the US. You want to believe that nobody in even the GSW's front office got rid of him at least PARTIALLY because he's Asian and they didn't see him as athletic enough, as strong enough, as fast as any other guard in the NBA then you're out of your mind.
On February 13 2012 00:06 AntiGrav1ty wrote: He played in the MLB when there was segregation.
He isn't saving Asian Americans from oppression but keep in mind that Asian-Americans have no place in pop culture or traditional media except as laughing stocks and punchlines. You see that there are almost no Asian Americans signed to major record labels or deals, or in positions in hollywood or television. People ask why a lot of the most subscribed channels on Youtube are Asians well thats because that is the medium for Asians to get any sort of spotlight. I once saw some video I think by Timothydelaghetto answering why all these asians are on youtube, singers, rappers, whatever and why they always hang out together and go to these performances and shows together and he answered with that. That this is the Asian-American medium and embrace it because traditional media doesn't allow for Asians to be a part of it.
Something as simple as a kid who's been looked over his whole life, averaging 25 ppg, 8 apg, 5 rpg, 2 spg in these past 5 games now. Believe it or not, but that IS a step in the direction of heralding a change in culture.
On February 13 2012 00:06 AntiGrav1ty wrote: He played in the MLB when there was segregation. That actually is a fucking big deal.
If you think that there is no segregation or equal rights of Asian Americans in traditional media then you're an idiot.
Dude I hate to be mean, but recruiting is at a big time level is not about your results in your high school level in basketball or football. Top players play year round against each other all over the country in weekend camps, that is where coaches evaluate most of the talent. And coaches are looking for things other than high school production.
A local example for me is Drake Johnson a local RB. He went to high school across the street from U of Michigan's football stadium. He set the state record for a single season yards, is 6'1" 200Lbs and is a state champion lvl 110 meter hurdler at the D1 level. He barely got an offer despite dominating his high school competition, and being an amazing overall athelete. By barely I mean he got offered in after his senior football season, very late to get an offer if you follow any college football recruiting. I mean I don't follow west coast recruiting for basketball and I might be talking out of my ass. Obviously he had the talent, but if he wasn't participating in the high lvl or national AAU ball it not all that surprising local schools overlooked him. I mean race may have been a factor, but not getting himself the exposure of other recruits likely played a huge role.
Exactly this, and while it might be unfair they play aloy of sets, with 3v3's 1v1's that look at your athletic ability. And Lin doesnt really stand out with those qualities. College level recruiters pride themselves on polishing that kind of stuff so theyd rather take a raw beast if that makes any sense.You have to understand that numbers in highschool are really quite meaningless to recruiters if you dont show them the things they have to check mark at the camps. And he probably didnt excel at that. Its like doing well in 20 percent tests all year and failing the exam. Not gonna pass yo. Its not like Lin is the only highschooler with those crazy numbers. Its a big country, competition is fierce which is why the camps are so important.
Fact of the matter is while they may let an occasional Lin slip by they have a recruiting system that by the by works. Maybe there was a matter of race I dont know. Id like to not think that way and give the benefit of the doubt, I mean Nash is SA born Canadian after all he got drafted, so its unfair to play the race card.
Still its a big achievement and mad props to him for sticking to it. Thats alot of courage.