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Lalalaland34456 Posts
On December 14 2012 23:09 Makenshi wrote: I have a feeling this is one of those stories that ends with ' and he was never heard from again. ' Lots of people said this about EternalEnvy tbh ^_^
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have i missed something? never heard anything about someone called eternalenvy in sc2
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On December 14 2012 23:17 nkr wrote: have i missed something? never heard anything about someone called eternalenvy in sc2 He was a former HoN player who posted a blog here stating how he wants to go pro in Dota 2
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Brunei Darussalam760 Posts
On December 14 2012 23:17 nkr wrote: have i missed something? never heard anything about someone called eternalenvy in sc2
EternaLEnVy is a Dota 2 pro. A year ago, he posted a thread on TL saying that he was thinking of taking a break from uni to play Dota 2 full time. He recently won DreamHack Winter 2012.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=293284
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On December 14 2012 23:11 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 23:09 Makenshi wrote: I have a feeling this is one of those stories that ends with ' and he was never heard from again. ' Lots of people said this about EternalEnvy tbh ^_^ There's a huge difference tho, as people said envy was sort of a good wellknown hon player already switching to a Very similiar game.
Him switching to sc2 being a mid masters Terran player.. How many foreign Terran players have broken through to become progamers in the past 6 or so months? And black is kind of wellknown for not practicing, wasn't he the reason Sing left mouz? Just think the next time i'll hear about black if he leaves to sc2 will be 'he just joined x team in dota2 again!'
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The question is, does he play zerg?
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For all the flak Non-KRs get about being so shit in SC2, the community is hardly encouraging new people to try. With a lot of the posts in this thread being "lol he wont be heard from again".
LoL/Dota is currently tearing apart the RTS scene and Black is one of EU's stronger carry players. He's throwing away the possibility of being part of a bigger scene as an established professional for a scene currently being dominated by KR only. (You could argue China dominates Dota as well, but at least the gap is much smaller and Na`Vi have posted the best overall results since TI1)
Whatever the case. I'm sad to see him leave Dota, but excited as a fan of both games to see his SC2 progress.
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On December 14 2012 22:31 rasers wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 22:28 Aunvilgod wrote:On December 14 2012 22:08 rasers wrote:On December 14 2012 22:01 Aunvilgod wrote:On December 14 2012 18:21 rasers wrote:On December 14 2012 16:29 Steveling wrote: Dota is a totally different beast than sc, that's why only like 2 people have played in a high level in both games, bad choise imo, but then he may be a rich guy so.. Like it matters what game you played before or whatever.... if you wanna go pro in a game you can do it with enough practice. he isn't limited now in SC2 just because he played doda. i never get this "logic" rofl.... Except 90% of all money has been won by ex BW pros, yeah. yeah wonder why professionals win vs amateurs. Huh? The players switching from WC3/Dota/whatever to SCII are as much professionals as ex BW players. But there is no doubt that Code S right now is 90% ex BW players and 10% 15-16 year old kids. On December 14 2012 22:25 Grettin wrote: After seeing what happened with EternalEnvy, i won't doubt anyone. Good luck to Black. ? all wc3 /dota guys are foreigners. besides guys like grubby tod sase.etc most of them are some of these "oh i wanna be "pro" but still wanan study or do whatever on the side and only practic emax 4 hours a day" i don't call these guys professionals. they are not so fucking good because they played broodwar and that made them get the superpower of bieng a good RTS player. they just practice a shitload and don't bitch around like the rest of the "pros"
Still Grubby, Moon, Sase, Tod etc. are not Code S level.
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On December 14 2012 23:42 duckmaster wrote: The question is, does he play zerg?
Seriously? That has to be my breaking point right there. Every thread has to contain this whine now? And suddenly it's not bannable? Balance whine is apparently ok on TL now. Doesn't even matter if it's COMPLETELY off topic whine. Just stfu and play some HotS beta. Play all races and have some fun. Let go of your hatred.
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It's nice to see that sc2-moba is a two way street. GL.
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On December 14 2012 23:56 d00p wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 23:42 duckmaster wrote: The question is, does he play zerg? Seriously? That has to be my breaking point right there. Every thread has to contain this whine now? And suddenly it's not bannable? Balance whine is apparently ok on TL now. Doesn't even matter if it's COMPLETELY off topic whine. Just stfu and play some HotS beta. Play all races and have some fun. Let go of your hatred. ... It's nice to see that sc2-moba is a two way street. GL. in all fairness he has some validity with that, not saying zerg is op but just the fact that most foreigners who break into progaming the past few months have mostly been Zergs. Heard people give the argument zergs got less of a margin of error or so. Not saying i agree or disagree but i think that was his point
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I played DOTA for about 6 years then HoN for 3 years, then starcraft 2 and I actually found Terran the best race for me at first. Gradually switched to protoss after playing random for 2 years.
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I don't know why so many people think he can't do it. He is a professional player in dota 2, that usually means he has some kind of skills, dedication, hard work and correct mind set to do what he wants. So if someone truly wants to become good at something and knows how to improve i see nothing that can stop him. Maybe it will take 1 year maybe more, maybe less, if he is dedicated and he thinks he can do it, then he will.
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On December 14 2012 22:46 Alur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 22:39 rabidch wrote:On December 14 2012 22:35 rasers wrote:On December 14 2012 22:27 S_SienZ wrote:On December 14 2012 22:25 Grettin wrote: After seeing what happened with EternalEnvy, i won't doubt anyone. Good luck to Black. Envy played Dota 1 and in fact was one of the best solo mids in HoN during his time before Dota 2.... dunno about the dota 1 part. but the hon part woot? when? first week of beta ? he's played dota1. as for his comparative skills people can say whatever about him, but he wasnt one of the top players, but he wasnt some bronze/silver/gold player either Do you even know dota 1? There was no bronze/silver/gold leagues. are you questioning me? i bet you were stinky cheese league in dota1
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coming from dota, yeah terran should be easy to pick up, if he manages the base macro. Would be nice to see another Terran, but it is really hard for Terran right now to break through in the foreign homeland. Anyway good luck.
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On December 14 2012 23:11 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 23:09 Makenshi wrote: I have a feeling this is one of those stories that ends with ' and he was never heard from again. ' Lots of people said this about EternalEnvy tbh ^_^
How is EternalEnvy comparable to this at all? EE was a competitive HON player... and you realize that a sizable group of DOTA2 pros made the same transition. If you ever watched EE's stream, he was clearly a very very high level player in DOTA2 before ever making his post/decision to go pro. Mid masters in SC2 is equates to nowhere near pro.
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Canada13372 Posts
On December 15 2012 00:25 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 23:11 Firebolt145 wrote:On December 14 2012 23:09 Makenshi wrote: I have a feeling this is one of those stories that ends with ' and he was never heard from again. ' Lots of people said this about EternalEnvy tbh ^_^ How is EternalEnvy comparable to this at all? EE was a competitive HON player... and you realize that a sizable group of DOTA2 pros made the same transition. If you ever watched EE's stream, he was clearly a very very high level player in DOTA2 before ever making his post/decision to go pro. Mid masters in SC2 is equates to nowhere near pro.
I agree. The comparison is quite poor and I personally don't see how he wants to switch to sc2. Especially now that korean domination is in full force and HotS is on the way as well. If he wants to practice anything it should be HotS and not WoL
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After all the people switching away from sc2, will be interesting to see one switch in. Best of luck to black!
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On December 14 2012 11:09 Cinim wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 11:05 LuckyFool wrote: switching to sc2 from dota2 is alot harder than going the other way around unfortunately.
Isn't BabyKnight one of the only real Dota->Sc2 players that's had much of any success? Yea, Babyknight is the only pro dota player to get into sc2 professionally Wasn't Babyknight a former wc3 player?
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Lalalaland34456 Posts
On December 15 2012 00:25 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 23:11 Firebolt145 wrote:On December 14 2012 23:09 Makenshi wrote: I have a feeling this is one of those stories that ends with ' and he was never heard from again. ' Lots of people said this about EternalEnvy tbh ^_^ How is EternalEnvy comparable to this at all? EE was a competitive HON player... and you realize that a sizable group of DOTA2 pros made the same transition. If you ever watched EE's stream, he was clearly a very very high level player in DOTA2 before ever making his post/decision to go pro. Mid masters in SC2 is equates to nowhere near pro. I'm not making direct comparisons, I simply feel that people should stop being so put-downy.
Oh and how do you know that Black was mid-masters?
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