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GunSec
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Sakkreth
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On May 01 2013 17:08 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Well, upon closer look I will concede TLO, but Zenio? Seriously? Come on! Not only has he played very little, most of the games he played were losses. + Show Spoiler + In the same time frame, Snute managed to win a LAN tournament in quite convincing fashion (http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ESET_UK_Masters_2013/Season_1 ), as well as do very well in numerous online tournaments (including WCS NA). Snute went 0-3 in second groupstage at dreamhack, while Zenio did advance from the same group and beat Snute head to head. It's close, but I think Zenio is in better shape at this moment, however training in Korea for Snute might change that. | ||
MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On May 01 2013 17:39 Sakkreth wrote: Snute went 0-3 in second groupstage at dreamhack, while Zenio did advance from the same group and beat Snute head to head. It's close, but I think Zenio is in better shape at this moment, however training in Korea for Snute might change that. And Snute has won or placed Top 4 in many online tournaments involving pretty much the same Europeans who were at DreamHack. See, the problem with cherry-picking is that when you only use a very specific and small sample size to prove your point, you fail to see the big picture. Yes, Snute didn't do very well at DreamHack, but he did very well at events leading up to DreamHack, and post-DreamHack he has qualified for WCS NA Ro16 with very solid play. Like I pointed out (and you can see from the list on Aligulac), Zenio has not only played relatively few games in this time period, making him hard to predict in that sense, he has also lost most of them. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Zenio, I think the guy has a cool personality, but the fact of the matter remains that he has not had any decent results in, what, a year now? Compare this to Snute, who has been doing great since late last year, and TLO and Ret who have been on a resurgence as of late, both displaying great play... it's not even debatable really, once you look at the numbers. | ||
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MagnuMizer
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On May 01 2013 17:45 MasterOfPuppets wrote: And Snute has won or placed Top 4 in many online tournaments involving pretty much the same Europeans who were at DreamHack. See, the problem with cherry-picking is that when you only use a very specific and small sample size to prove your point, you fail to see the big picture. Yes, Snute didn't do very well at DreamHack, but he did very well at events leading up to DreamHack, and post-DreamHack he has qualified for WCS NA Ro16 with very solid play. Like I pointed out (and you can see from the list on Aligulac), Zenio has not only played relatively few games in this time period, making him hard to predict in that sense, he has also lost most of them. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Zenio, I think the guy has a cool personality, but the fact of the matter remains that he has not had any decent results in, what, a year now? Compare this to Snute, who has been doing great since late last year, and TLO and Ret who have been on a resurgence as of late, both displaying great play... it's not even debatable really, once you look at the numbers. now, i dunno what league you guys are in or how much understanding of the game you have.. but i dont base my claim on the perspective of statistics and results, but his skill level... i think if he would play in proleague he would be crushed every time.. no need to bash on me for saying that, i love snute, and i would love to be proven wrong.. and in fact i really hope he does practice in korea with the help of coach park, i'm sure he could go very far! | ||
llIH
Norway2126 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On May 01 2013 17:54 MagnuMizer wrote: now, i dunno what league you guys are in or how much understanding of the game you have.. but i dont base my claim on the perspective of statistics and results, but his skill level... i think if he would play in proleague he would be crushed every time.. no need to bash on me for saying that, i love snute, and i would love to be proven wrong.. and in fact i really hope he does practice in korea with the help of coach park, i'm sure he could go very far! I can tell you I've watched many of his recent games and he looked quite sharp. As for getting crushed every time, I can see why you'd think that, but honestly even if you were right that doesn't make him any worse than Zenio. For your last point, absolutely, if Snute spends at least 2-3 months in Korea practicing at the EG-TL house under Coach Park, he's going to come back and just murder everyone in Europe/NA. | ||
MysticaL
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feddeathlon
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NovemberstOrm
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On May 01 2013 16:53 Sakkreth wrote: Yes a lot, and it's not arguable that Hero, Taeja, TLO and Zenio are better, you could make a point for him over Ret maybe, but Ret has showmn more results haven't been as good lately as just after hots launch though. snute is better than zenio, debatable between him and tlo, and I think he has done better than ret. edit; also I really think Snute can do well in korea and I hope he does! GL to him. | ||
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