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Canada16217 Posts
Poll: Recommend Stardust vs Arthur game2?★★★ - Good game (1) 100% ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 1 total votes Your vote: Recommend Stardust vs Arthur game2? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Stardust vs Arthur game3?★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2) 100% ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★ - Good game (0) 0% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend Stardust vs Arthur game3? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
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On December 10 2013 04:43 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 04:37 Valikyr wrote:On December 10 2013 04:33 Squat wrote:On December 10 2013 04:29 Valikyr wrote: And that's why Naniwa is the best foreigner. Great play. He played well, but if the best foreigner thing gets bandied about much more we may have to implement summary execution as the punishment. At least wait until after the showmatch. You won't be able to tell for sure after just one showmatch anyway. Nani is the most succesful foreigner this year. That's a fact (in prize winnings and being the only foreigner at the global finals). If he or Scarlett is really the better player I guess we can't tell for sure though. Scarlett has beaten better players, Nani has done better in tournaments, I guess it's up to what your criteria are like. I personally don't care too much about how far someone goes in a tournament, I care about who they play against. You can get lucky brackets with 2 foreigners and a fading Korean, or you can get Soulkey and Dear. A month long break due to wrist issues is not really going to help overall results either.
Better players? I say Innovation, Dear and Jaedong are pretty much as good as they get.
Not saying Nani is better/worse, or that he's beaten better opponents. Just that both of them have taken out the top of the top this year.
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On December 10 2013 04:42 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 04:39 Squat wrote:On December 10 2013 04:36 BaneRiders wrote:On December 10 2013 04:33 Zheryn wrote:
This is a bit sad, no? That's kind of what he does. Scarlett posts in the LR in between games in the playoffs of major tournaments, Nani tweets rude things about people he does not like. It's a Swedish culture thing. Then Swedish culture is a bit sad.
Pfft, getting drunk and jump around a phallus while pretending to be frogs is cool
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I think Nani vs Scarlett will be a very even match....
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On December 10 2013 04:46 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 04:43 Squat wrote:On December 10 2013 04:37 Valikyr wrote:On December 10 2013 04:33 Squat wrote:On December 10 2013 04:29 Valikyr wrote: And that's why Naniwa is the best foreigner. Great play. He played well, but if the best foreigner thing gets bandied about much more we may have to implement summary execution as the punishment. At least wait until after the showmatch. You won't be able to tell for sure after just one showmatch anyway. Nani is the most succesful foreigner this year. That's a fact (in prize winnings and being the only foreigner at the global finals). If he or Scarlett is really the better player I guess we can't tell for sure though. Scarlett has beaten better players, Nani has done better in tournaments, I guess it's up to what your criteria are like. I personally don't care too much about how far someone goes in a tournament, I care about who they play against. You can get lucky brackets with 2 foreigners and a fading Korean, or you can get Soulkey and Dear. A month long break due to wrist issues is not really going to help overall results either. Better players? I say Innovation, Dear and Jaedong are pretty much as good as they get. As opposed to Bomber/Maru/Life/MC/MMA?
And JD was back when his ZvP was still lulzworthy. Dear is the only player there that compares right now, both Bomber and Maru are better than Innovation currently.
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On December 10 2013 04:47 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 04:42 vthree wrote:On December 10 2013 04:39 Squat wrote:On December 10 2013 04:36 BaneRiders wrote:This is a bit sad, no? That's kind of what he does. Scarlett posts in the LR in between games in the playoffs of major tournaments, Nani tweets rude things about people he does not like. It's a Swedish culture thing. Then Swedish culture is a bit sad. Pfft, getting drunk and jump around a phallus while pretending to be frogs is cool Lol, like he actually made that picture himself xD I think two key phrases regarding Naniwa in esports is "deal with it" and "haters gonna hate"
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On December 10 2013 04:49 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 04:46 DJHelium wrote:On December 10 2013 04:43 Squat wrote:On December 10 2013 04:37 Valikyr wrote:On December 10 2013 04:33 Squat wrote:On December 10 2013 04:29 Valikyr wrote: And that's why Naniwa is the best foreigner. Great play. He played well, but if the best foreigner thing gets bandied about much more we may have to implement summary execution as the punishment. At least wait until after the showmatch. You won't be able to tell for sure after just one showmatch anyway. Nani is the most succesful foreigner this year. That's a fact (in prize winnings and being the only foreigner at the global finals). If he or Scarlett is really the better player I guess we can't tell for sure though. Scarlett has beaten better players, Nani has done better in tournaments, I guess it's up to what your criteria are like. I personally don't care too much about how far someone goes in a tournament, I care about who they play against. You can get lucky brackets with 2 foreigners and a fading Korean, or you can get Soulkey and Dear. A month long break due to wrist issues is not really going to help overall results either. Better players? I say Innovation, Dear and Jaedong are pretty much as good as they get. As opposed to Bomber/Maru/Life/MC? And JD was back when his ZvP was still lulzworthy. Dear is the only player there that compares right now, both Bomber and Maru are better than Innovation currently.
Updated my post to clarify what I meant. And yeah, Scarlett has obviously beat the best as well (jjakji ffs!). I just don't think it's what set them apart.
And Bomber/Maru being better than Innovation is very subjective I'd say (personally I rate Maru the highest!).
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On December 10 2013 04:49 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 04:46 DJHelium wrote:On December 10 2013 04:43 Squat wrote:On December 10 2013 04:37 Valikyr wrote:On December 10 2013 04:33 Squat wrote:On December 10 2013 04:29 Valikyr wrote: And that's why Naniwa is the best foreigner. Great play. He played well, but if the best foreigner thing gets bandied about much more we may have to implement summary execution as the punishment. At least wait until after the showmatch. You won't be able to tell for sure after just one showmatch anyway. Nani is the most succesful foreigner this year. That's a fact (in prize winnings and being the only foreigner at the global finals). If he or Scarlett is really the better player I guess we can't tell for sure though. Scarlett has beaten better players, Nani has done better in tournaments, I guess it's up to what your criteria are like. I personally don't care too much about how far someone goes in a tournament, I care about who they play against. You can get lucky brackets with 2 foreigners and a fading Korean, or you can get Soulkey and Dear. A month long break due to wrist issues is not really going to help overall results either. Better players? I say Innovation, Dear and Jaedong are pretty much as good as they get. As opposed to Bomber/Maru/Life/MC/MMA? And JD was back when his ZvP was still lulzworthy. Dear is the only player there that compares right now, both Bomber and Maru are better than Innovation currently.
uhm why dont you read his entire post :o
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On December 10 2013 04:53 Fjodorov wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 04:49 Squat wrote:On December 10 2013 04:46 DJHelium wrote:On December 10 2013 04:43 Squat wrote:On December 10 2013 04:37 Valikyr wrote:On December 10 2013 04:33 Squat wrote:On December 10 2013 04:29 Valikyr wrote: And that's why Naniwa is the best foreigner. Great play. He played well, but if the best foreigner thing gets bandied about much more we may have to implement summary execution as the punishment. At least wait until after the showmatch. You won't be able to tell for sure after just one showmatch anyway. Nani is the most succesful foreigner this year. That's a fact (in prize winnings and being the only foreigner at the global finals). If he or Scarlett is really the better player I guess we can't tell for sure though. Scarlett has beaten better players, Nani has done better in tournaments, I guess it's up to what your criteria are like. I personally don't care too much about how far someone goes in a tournament, I care about who they play against. You can get lucky brackets with 2 foreigners and a fading Korean, or you can get Soulkey and Dear. A month long break due to wrist issues is not really going to help overall results either. Better players? I say Innovation, Dear and Jaedong are pretty much as good as they get. As opposed to Bomber/Maru/Life/MC/MMA? And JD was back when his ZvP was still lulzworthy. Dear is the only player there that compares right now, both Bomber and Maru are better than Innovation currently. uhm why dont you read his entire post :o
I edited it, not his fault!
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On December 10 2013 04:49 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 04:46 DJHelium wrote:On December 10 2013 04:43 Squat wrote:On December 10 2013 04:37 Valikyr wrote:On December 10 2013 04:33 Squat wrote:On December 10 2013 04:29 Valikyr wrote: And that's why Naniwa is the best foreigner. Great play. He played well, but if the best foreigner thing gets bandied about much more we may have to implement summary execution as the punishment. At least wait until after the showmatch. You won't be able to tell for sure after just one showmatch anyway. Nani is the most succesful foreigner this year. That's a fact (in prize winnings and being the only foreigner at the global finals). If he or Scarlett is really the better player I guess we can't tell for sure though. Scarlett has beaten better players, Nani has done better in tournaments, I guess it's up to what your criteria are like. I personally don't care too much about how far someone goes in a tournament, I care about who they play against. You can get lucky brackets with 2 foreigners and a fading Korean, or you can get Soulkey and Dear. A month long break due to wrist issues is not really going to help overall results either. Better players? I say Innovation, Dear and Jaedong are pretty much as good as they get. As opposed to Bomber/Maru/Life/MC/MMA? And JD was back when his ZvP was still lulzworthy. Dear is the only player there that compares right now, both Bomber and Maru are better than Innovation currently.
Inno is much more consistent than Bomber.
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On December 10 2013 04:54 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 04:49 Squat wrote:On December 10 2013 04:46 DJHelium wrote:On December 10 2013 04:43 Squat wrote:On December 10 2013 04:37 Valikyr wrote:On December 10 2013 04:33 Squat wrote:On December 10 2013 04:29 Valikyr wrote: And that's why Naniwa is the best foreigner. Great play. He played well, but if the best foreigner thing gets bandied about much more we may have to implement summary execution as the punishment. At least wait until after the showmatch. You won't be able to tell for sure after just one showmatch anyway. Nani is the most succesful foreigner this year. That's a fact (in prize winnings and being the only foreigner at the global finals). If he or Scarlett is really the better player I guess we can't tell for sure though. Scarlett has beaten better players, Nani has done better in tournaments, I guess it's up to what your criteria are like. I personally don't care too much about how far someone goes in a tournament, I care about who they play against. You can get lucky brackets with 2 foreigners and a fading Korean, or you can get Soulkey and Dear. A month long break due to wrist issues is not really going to help overall results either. Better players? I say Innovation, Dear and Jaedong are pretty much as good as they get. As opposed to Bomber/Maru/Life/MC/MMA? And JD was back when his ZvP was still lulzworthy. Dear is the only player there that compares right now, both Bomber and Maru are better than Innovation currently. Inno is much more consistent than Bomber. Most things are. :D
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On December 10 2013 04:39 Squat wrote:That's kind of what he does. Scarlett posts in the LR in between games in the playoffs of major tournaments, Nani tweets rude things about people he does not like. It's a Swedish culture thing.
No it is not a Swedish culture thing, quite the contrary. Don't give us a bad name here!
Being a bit BM is one thing and I approve of that, but this I thought was lame. Now, if Vortix would punch Nani in the face next time they see each other I would approve of that too. That would be according to Swedish culture.
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United States97250 Posts
cool to see that sC still played even though he retired
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Feel bad for the tournament that it's all PvP from now, as if the low visibility and hype already wasn't enough.
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I'm interested to see what the Oracle buff did to PvP, haven't seen a PvP since the patch, but every Protoss seems to complain about it.
Also it reminds me of EPS.
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On December 10 2013 04:54 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 04:49 Squat wrote:On December 10 2013 04:46 DJHelium wrote:On December 10 2013 04:43 Squat wrote:On December 10 2013 04:37 Valikyr wrote:On December 10 2013 04:33 Squat wrote:On December 10 2013 04:29 Valikyr wrote: And that's why Naniwa is the best foreigner. Great play. He played well, but if the best foreigner thing gets bandied about much more we may have to implement summary execution as the punishment. At least wait until after the showmatch. You won't be able to tell for sure after just one showmatch anyway. Nani is the most succesful foreigner this year. That's a fact (in prize winnings and being the only foreigner at the global finals). If he or Scarlett is really the better player I guess we can't tell for sure though. Scarlett has beaten better players, Nani has done better in tournaments, I guess it's up to what your criteria are like. I personally don't care too much about how far someone goes in a tournament, I care about who they play against. You can get lucky brackets with 2 foreigners and a fading Korean, or you can get Soulkey and Dear. A month long break due to wrist issues is not really going to help overall results either. Better players? I say Innovation, Dear and Jaedong are pretty much as good as they get. As opposed to Bomber/Maru/Life/MC/MMA? And JD was back when his ZvP was still lulzworthy. Dear is the only player there that compares right now, both Bomber and Maru are better than Innovation currently. Inno is much more consistent than Bomber. Well that's not actually hard. But this idea that Scarlett beat him just because he went and derped is just inane. She beat him in multiple series, post and pre patch. Most of these she just outplayed him, just by being faster and better. Bomber did not wet the bed, he just lost to someone who played better.
Nani has done really well for himself, but he has also been rather fortunate with brackets at times. Every time he goes against a top 5 zerg he pretty much gets smashed.
And yes, Maru is the best terran overall no doubt, apart from Taeja ofc.
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On December 10 2013 05:08 NovaMB wrote: I'm interested to see what the Oracle buff did to PvP, haven't seen a PvP since the patch, but every Protoss seems to complain about it.
Also it reminds me of EPS. my bronze level 2v2 games suggest it is quite powerful, clearly this is the best metric for balance
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On December 10 2013 04:43 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 04:40 Keeemy wrote:On December 10 2013 04:39 Zheryn wrote:On December 10 2013 04:36 BaneRiders wrote:This is a bit sad, no? I think it spices up things a bit when players have some history of not really liking eachother and throwing some BM at the other Makes the games feel worth more than just the price money. Spoken like a true swede and a faniwa No bias at all, right? Nah I hate Nerchio but I still think it's hilarious when he wins or loses and there's a little BMing going on, like when he defended two 7gates in a row vs some korean protoss and told him to stop playing sc2 in the middle of the fight
Wasn't that against Stardust? I seem to recognize this. It was funny indeed. Stardust got really upset about it on Twitter and everything.
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Why is it Bo3 the whole tournament?
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On December 10 2013 05:13 Brutaxilos wrote: Why is it Bo3 the whole tournament? Considering it's all PvP from here on out that's a pretty good thing imo.
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