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On February 24 2018 06:32 Incomplete..ReV wrote: They didn't drop the ball. They got feedback and adjusted accordingly. Most people seem to want to prioritize good latency and similar skill levels over short queues. Then they obliged.
wth you sayin about good lan and similar skills. You’re completely wrong. Which top level players also supported this backward system?
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On March 14 2018 05:46 EndingLife wrote: What MMR are you currently trying to find games at?
I've been playing on a new account to test ... currently at 2200 -- so moral of story is, the MMR didn't matter.
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UPDATE #3 for those who care ....
Currently 5:45PM ET, very slight improvement, but was hard to test in this period because I ended up queuing against the same guy 3x ... so that sort of skewed results. But even though I got paired vs the same guy several time, it still took 200+ seconds to match him again.
I also asked the guy in game how long his queue took and he said about the same.
I'll continue to provide a few more updates for the rest of the day to see if this ever improves. Looking grim folks.
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On March 14 2018 06:25 ProtossGG wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2018 05:46 EndingLife wrote: What MMR are you currently trying to find games at? I've been playing on a new account to test ... currently at 2200 -- so moral of story is, the MMR didn't matter. I'm thinking a lot of it has do to with your MMR. There aren't many 2200+ foreigners and there's even less 2200+ N/A foreigners. The current algorithm seems to only match you vs somewhat local players. Finding a 2200+ player that's searching for a game at the same time you are between the hours of 6am to 12pm is going to be nearly impossible, as most people work during those hours.
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On March 14 2018 06:50 EndingLife wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2018 06:25 ProtossGG wrote:On March 14 2018 05:46 EndingLife wrote: What MMR are you currently trying to find games at? I've been playing on a new account to test ... currently at 2200 -- so moral of story is, the MMR didn't matter. I'm thinking a lot of it has do to with your MMR. There aren't many 2200+ foreigners and there's even less 2200+ N/A foreigners. The current algorithm seems to only match you vs somewhat local players. Finding a 2200+ player that's searching for a game at the same time you are between the hours of 6am to 12pm is going to be nearly impossible, as most people work during those hours.
EL, I agree with you on that. But now the window starting at 4pm to now (6pm) is still yielding similar results.
Sure, there might not be many foreigners, but the point is they need to readjust the algorithm so people can get games, not just keep it "localized."
I'll try to keep providing updates from 6PM onward because people will be "out of work", so let's see if it's even true to find people "localized." I just think the system in general stinks and is broken.
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Agreed. They really messed it up for foreigners since we can't match vs Koreans anymore, and they're the vast majority that still play this game. I think 2200+ is in the top 1% of foreigners, so even at "peak time" for N/A foreigners, it will still take some time to find a match.
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I think they've changed it. I've matched with at least 2 koreans today.
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UPDATE #4 .... calling it a day here.
No improvements, really. I guess it went from 300 to 200 seconds if you're lucky. But still spurts where you have to wait 700 seconds, etc.
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....come to australia and try to find a game, i wait 2000-3000 seconds. Unless im lucky that the only other AU or NZ guy is online (in my shitty mmr range). But it doesnt really bother me, just tab out watch some youtube, look at TL etcetc and it doesnt feel like waiting at all.
But i have to say, when i do find a game its perfect theres no lag theres stuttering or people dc-ing. Its a smooth game for me. Imo worth it for the wait time. Previously i find a game, enter other guy immediately quits because theres a huge lag, and then repeat 15 times till i get a smooth game.
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On March 14 2018 12:11 Shock710 wrote: ....come to australia and try to find a game, i wait 2000-3000 seconds. Unless im lucky that the only other AU or NZ guy is online (in my shitty mmr range). But it doesnt really bother me, just tab out watch some youtube, look at TL etcetc and it doesnt feel like waiting at all.
But i have to say, when i do find a game its perfect theres no lag theres stuttering or people dc-ing. Its a smooth game for me. Imo worth it for the wait time. Previously i find a game, enter other guy immediately quits because theres a huge lag, and then repeat 15 times till i get a smooth game.
That's an understandable opinion.
But based on your response here, I would assume (and please correct me if I'm wrong and I mean no offense either) -- you're a lower level player. 2000 and below, I bet, right?
That's YOUR perspective to accommodate that skill of players. What about better players who have higher MMR 2200+ for instance. The point I'm trying to make is, it's fine that you feel comfortable with this system, but there should be a system that accommodates all of us and makes us all eager to play.
EDIT: Shock710 MMR is 1460 (42-47) as of this post ... so now his opinion makes more sense and proves my case further.
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On March 15 2018 07:13 ProtossGG wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2018 12:11 Shock710 wrote: ....come to australia and try to find a game, i wait 2000-3000 seconds. Unless im lucky that the only other AU or NZ guy is online (in my shitty mmr range). But it doesnt really bother me, just tab out watch some youtube, look at TL etcetc and it doesnt feel like waiting at all.
But i have to say, when i do find a game its perfect theres no lag theres stuttering or people dc-ing. Its a smooth game for me. Imo worth it for the wait time. Previously i find a game, enter other guy immediately quits because theres a huge lag, and then repeat 15 times till i get a smooth game. That's an understandable opinion. But based on your response here, I would assume (and please correct me if I'm wrong and I mean no offense either) -- you're a lower level player. 2000 and below, I bet, right? That's YOUR perspective to accommodate that skill of players. What about better players who have higher MMR 2200+ for instance. The point I'm trying to make is, it's fine that you feel comfortable with this system, but there should be a system that accommodates all of us and makes us all eager to play. EDIT: Shock710 MMR is 1460 (42-47) as of this post ... so now his opinion makes more sense and proves my case further. yeah my mmr like i said is really low "shitty mmr range", but the there just isnt enough 2k+ players outside of korea for them all to be on and searching theres a point where the numbers arent there for them to find each other rather then it being blizzards fault especially when you consider that w/e search formula is going on takes network lat over quick pairing. What im saying is, longer search time in favour of better games is worth it. As for the high mmr players its just better to host games with people you know because frankly the player pool isnt big enough. If this was like 2003-2008 time and we had this system im sure there would be way lower complaints on search time.
Maybe you could implement a feature where you can chose a region in which to direct your search overlooking latency, like "global vs korea"
tl:dr not enough players
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On March 15 2018 12:45 Shock710 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2018 07:13 ProtossGG wrote:On March 14 2018 12:11 Shock710 wrote: ....come to australia and try to find a game, i wait 2000-3000 seconds. Unless im lucky that the only other AU or NZ guy is online (in my shitty mmr range). But it doesnt really bother me, just tab out watch some youtube, look at TL etcetc and it doesnt feel like waiting at all.
But i have to say, when i do find a game its perfect theres no lag theres stuttering or people dc-ing. Its a smooth game for me. Imo worth it for the wait time. Previously i find a game, enter other guy immediately quits because theres a huge lag, and then repeat 15 times till i get a smooth game. That's an understandable opinion. But based on your response here, I would assume (and please correct me if I'm wrong and I mean no offense either) -- you're a lower level player. 2000 and below, I bet, right? That's YOUR perspective to accommodate that skill of players. What about better players who have higher MMR 2200+ for instance. The point I'm trying to make is, it's fine that you feel comfortable with this system, but there should be a system that accommodates all of us and makes us all eager to play. EDIT: Shock710 MMR is 1460 (42-47) as of this post ... so now his opinion makes more sense and proves my case further. yeah my mmr like i said is really low "shitty mmr range", but the there just isnt enough 2k+ players outside of korea for them all to be on and searching theres a point where the numbers arent there for them to find each other rather then it being blizzards fault especially when you consider that w/e search formula is going on takes network lat over quick pairing. What im saying is, longer search time in favour of better games is worth it. As for the high mmr players its just better to host games with people you know because frankly the player pool isnt big enough. If this was like 2003-2008 time and we had this system im sure there would be way lower complaints on search time. Maybe you could implement a feature where you can chose a region in which to direct your search overlooking latency, like "global vs korea" tl:dr not enough players
you are from AU. I assume your lag vs koreans is pretty bad. However for us north american folks we can actually play koreans TR14-16 thankfully so we will appreciate it if we can play them again with short queue time. Mind you that TR14 is the most online has ever played on
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Even in prime hours on a new account my search time is at least 3-4 minutes. I quit.
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I waited 1500 seconds at 2am my time, 5pm korean time, to match against a USA player. That is absolutely unacceptable. Its like the algorithm excluded everyone from korea automatically. GIVE US BACK KOREAN OPPONENTS
edit: he was also 200MMR below me lol
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I wonder what Blizzard is going to do.... =\
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i just had another sc:r update. anyone know what that is about?
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I wondered too, but it didn't advertise patch notes in the launcher.
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On March 16 2018 18:13 Navane wrote: I wondered too, but it didn't advertise patch notes in the launcher.
Matt Sherman Developer 148 posts 12 hours ago (Edited) Greetings Cerebrates, Commanders, and Executors,
We’ve just deployed hotfix patch 1.21.4.3767 which improves NAT support on secure networks. As always we look forward to your feedback
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I have no big problems with queque
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wow this is so stupid. 1000+ sec of waiting and no game. what a piece of s
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