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All very good changes.
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On July 24 2012 23:55 Toastie.NL wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 23:29 Skwid1g wrote:On July 24 2012 17:15 Toastie.NL wrote:On July 24 2012 17:12 Bensio wrote: I'm so glad there are no balance changes, nice that blizz have slowed down with changing stuff since the game is pretty balanced right now and HotS will knock that shit in the air anyway. Pretty balance if you play Zerg, ye. Oh well, this is no balance thread ... I skimmed through but I dont see the time it will arrive. When will it be patched in? I'm curious ! Terran MLG winner, PvP GSL finals, I'd say the other races are doing pretty well, wouldn't you? Balance changes shouldn't be thrown around quickly, if there's a problem they need to wait for the players to try and find a solution before even considering a balance change. On July 24 2012 23:00 Toastie.NL wrote:On July 24 2012 22:46 Forikorder wrote:On July 24 2012 22:30 graNite wrote:On July 24 2012 22:26 Gescom wrote: @graNite : If Terran is doing well statistically at top tiers of play, then what do you think needs to be done ? Most important to me seem ghost and raven buffs. I want to see terran spellcasters to be used. The raven costs 200 gas and is a LIGHT unit ?! It gets sniped way too easy because of its armor type and speed, in my opinion it should be psionic. the ghost snipe is change should be reverted and the ghost base attack vs light should be the counter to zealots, that would make sense on so many levels. what does its armour class ahve to dow ith anything? having trouble with banelings clearing your ravens? aside from Thors and phoenix ravens arent going to take extra damage and TvT is the only amtch up ravens are actually used and Phoenixs arent used pretty much at all in PvT anyway ghost snipe change should not be reverted its disguisting that the Ghost used to literally hard counter every Zerg unit Its disgusting that the Infestor counters literally every unit (except Ghost)...:/? Infestors can deal with - anything! Snipe didnt deal with roach ling bane, drop/nydus zergs were diguring ghosttank out. But balance patches helped them fix it ezpz ...? You obviously don't play at a high level if you think that. Ghost tank countered *everything*. Ghosts could deal with every Zerg unit pretty easily (other than lings... kind of) and tanks did the rest. Infestors are that strong to make up for Zerg's otherwise crappy units; they deserve a nerf, but only if it's accompanied by a subsequent buff to other units. Are you serious? Taeja barely won the only TvZ he played ve an extremely out of form Losira. That is no proof of a win that shows tvz is fine. Also, ghost tank is THE most immobile composition in the game. It was only imba on Shakuras. However, most pro zergs went for more broodlord / infestor / ultra (the countered u its) instead of Ling roach with drops to kill the bases which Terran could impossobly guard. I guess I dont play at the highest level, but do you even play at any level??
So stop the whining, you're one of the biggest balance whiners on the forum and have been banned for it before. Dont you people ever learn.
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On July 24 2012 23:53 clayn wrote: Why's everybody crying about balance? Get used to the current situation and experiment with different stuff instead of relying on one strategy and hoping it will be buffed in the near future.. History makes me think a lot of vocal whiners and doing exactly that is the way to go...
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On July 24 2012 23:57 Reaps wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 23:55 Toastie.NL wrote:On July 24 2012 23:29 Skwid1g wrote:On July 24 2012 17:15 Toastie.NL wrote:On July 24 2012 17:12 Bensio wrote: I'm so glad there are no balance changes, nice that blizz have slowed down with changing stuff since the game is pretty balanced right now and HotS will knock that shit in the air anyway. Pretty balance if you play Zerg, ye. Oh well, this is no balance thread ... I skimmed through but I dont see the time it will arrive. When will it be patched in? I'm curious ! Terran MLG winner, PvP GSL finals, I'd say the other races are doing pretty well, wouldn't you? Balance changes shouldn't be thrown around quickly, if there's a problem they need to wait for the players to try and find a solution before even considering a balance change. On July 24 2012 23:00 Toastie.NL wrote:On July 24 2012 22:46 Forikorder wrote:On July 24 2012 22:30 graNite wrote:On July 24 2012 22:26 Gescom wrote: @graNite : If Terran is doing well statistically at top tiers of play, then what do you think needs to be done ? Most important to me seem ghost and raven buffs. I want to see terran spellcasters to be used. The raven costs 200 gas and is a LIGHT unit ?! It gets sniped way too easy because of its armor type and speed, in my opinion it should be psionic. the ghost snipe is change should be reverted and the ghost base attack vs light should be the counter to zealots, that would make sense on so many levels. what does its armour class ahve to dow ith anything? having trouble with banelings clearing your ravens? aside from Thors and phoenix ravens arent going to take extra damage and TvT is the only amtch up ravens are actually used and Phoenixs arent used pretty much at all in PvT anyway ghost snipe change should not be reverted its disguisting that the Ghost used to literally hard counter every Zerg unit Its disgusting that the Infestor counters literally every unit (except Ghost)...:/? Infestors can deal with - anything! Snipe didnt deal with roach ling bane, drop/nydus zergs were diguring ghosttank out. But balance patches helped them fix it ezpz ...? You obviously don't play at a high level if you think that. Ghost tank countered *everything*. Ghosts could deal with every Zerg unit pretty easily (other than lings... kind of) and tanks did the rest. Infestors are that strong to make up for Zerg's otherwise crappy units; they deserve a nerf, but only if it's accompanied by a subsequent buff to other units. Are you serious? Taeja barely won the only TvZ he played ve an extremely out of form Losira. That is no proof of a win that shows tvz is fine. Also, ghost tank is THE most immobile composition in the game. It was only imba on Shakuras. However, most pro zergs went for more broodlord / infestor / ultra (the countered u its) instead of Ling roach with drops to kill the bases which Terran could impossobly guard. I guess I dont play at the highest level, but do you even play at any level?? So stop the whining, you're one of the biggest balance whiners on the forum and have been banned for it before. Dont you people ever learn. So when I come with arguments you start insulting me? Nothing to do here >insert jetpack meme<
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Who cares if theres no balance changes. There is a TON of stuff in this patch; features/fixes that were probably left on the backburner to rot while they shoved balance changes into every other patch.
In fact it'd be nice if they stopped randomly balancing the game every 2 months in a patch. It'd be even nicer if they stopped before they randomly buffed queens in a stroke of genius too, though.
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On July 24 2012 17:05 digmouse wrote:
Banelings lifted by phoenixes now use proper visual indication when detonating and damaging units below them.
wow nice, didnt know they are supposed to do damage when lifted.
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On July 24 2012 23:58 Toastie.NL wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 23:57 Reaps wrote:On July 24 2012 23:55 Toastie.NL wrote:On July 24 2012 23:29 Skwid1g wrote:On July 24 2012 17:15 Toastie.NL wrote:On July 24 2012 17:12 Bensio wrote: I'm so glad there are no balance changes, nice that blizz have slowed down with changing stuff since the game is pretty balanced right now and HotS will knock that shit in the air anyway. Pretty balance if you play Zerg, ye. Oh well, this is no balance thread ... I skimmed through but I dont see the time it will arrive. When will it be patched in? I'm curious ! Terran MLG winner, PvP GSL finals, I'd say the other races are doing pretty well, wouldn't you? Balance changes shouldn't be thrown around quickly, if there's a problem they need to wait for the players to try and find a solution before even considering a balance change. On July 24 2012 23:00 Toastie.NL wrote:On July 24 2012 22:46 Forikorder wrote:On July 24 2012 22:30 graNite wrote:On July 24 2012 22:26 Gescom wrote: @graNite : If Terran is doing well statistically at top tiers of play, then what do you think needs to be done ? Most important to me seem ghost and raven buffs. I want to see terran spellcasters to be used. The raven costs 200 gas and is a LIGHT unit ?! It gets sniped way too easy because of its armor type and speed, in my opinion it should be psionic. the ghost snipe is change should be reverted and the ghost base attack vs light should be the counter to zealots, that would make sense on so many levels. what does its armour class ahve to dow ith anything? having trouble with banelings clearing your ravens? aside from Thors and phoenix ravens arent going to take extra damage and TvT is the only amtch up ravens are actually used and Phoenixs arent used pretty much at all in PvT anyway ghost snipe change should not be reverted its disguisting that the Ghost used to literally hard counter every Zerg unit Its disgusting that the Infestor counters literally every unit (except Ghost)...:/? Infestors can deal with - anything! Snipe didnt deal with roach ling bane, drop/nydus zergs were diguring ghosttank out. But balance patches helped them fix it ezpz ...? You obviously don't play at a high level if you think that. Ghost tank countered *everything*. Ghosts could deal with every Zerg unit pretty easily (other than lings... kind of) and tanks did the rest. Infestors are that strong to make up for Zerg's otherwise crappy units; they deserve a nerf, but only if it's accompanied by a subsequent buff to other units. Are you serious? Taeja barely won the only TvZ he played ve an extremely out of form Losira. That is no proof of a win that shows tvz is fine. Also, ghost tank is THE most immobile composition in the game. It was only imba on Shakuras. However, most pro zergs went for more broodlord / infestor / ultra (the countered u its) instead of Ling roach with drops to kill the bases which Terran could impossobly guard. I guess I dont play at the highest level, but do you even play at any level?? So stop the whining, you're one of the biggest balance whiners on the forum and have been banned for it before. Dont you people ever learn. So when I come with arguments you start insulting me? Nothing to do here >insert jetpack meme<
Im not insulting you, and what arguements? Not talking about the post i quoted but previous posts where you do nothing but whine. Getting so old.
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^ lol ye. But it is true. The Ui got its desperately needed upgrade and we have to sit back and enjoy! Hey, all those people yelling they quit 1v1 can at leas have fun with new customs ^^!
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Didn't we already have a thread for this patch a long time ago, or has something changed?
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I wish people would stop using individual tournament wins as a certain race as a measure of balance. A player winning a tournament regardless of race says NOTHING of the current state of balance in Starcraft. It didn't mean anything when the first 2 GSLs were won by 2 Zergs, and it doesn't mean anything now that Taeja won MLG. I'm not saying the game is imbalanced, but Taeja winning MLG certainly doesn't mean it's balanced either.
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On July 25 2012 00:01 Reaps wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 23:58 Toastie.NL wrote:On July 24 2012 23:57 Reaps wrote:On July 24 2012 23:55 Toastie.NL wrote:On July 24 2012 23:29 Skwid1g wrote:On July 24 2012 17:15 Toastie.NL wrote:On July 24 2012 17:12 Bensio wrote: I'm so glad there are no balance changes, nice that blizz have slowed down with changing stuff since the game is pretty balanced right now and HotS will knock that shit in the air anyway. Pretty balance if you play Zerg, ye. Oh well, this is no balance thread ... I skimmed through but I dont see the time it will arrive. When will it be patched in? I'm curious ! Terran MLG winner, PvP GSL finals, I'd say the other races are doing pretty well, wouldn't you? Balance changes shouldn't be thrown around quickly, if there's a problem they need to wait for the players to try and find a solution before even considering a balance change. On July 24 2012 23:00 Toastie.NL wrote:On July 24 2012 22:46 Forikorder wrote:On July 24 2012 22:30 graNite wrote:On July 24 2012 22:26 Gescom wrote: @graNite : If Terran is doing well statistically at top tiers of play, then what do you think needs to be done ? Most important to me seem ghost and raven buffs. I want to see terran spellcasters to be used. The raven costs 200 gas and is a LIGHT unit ?! It gets sniped way too easy because of its armor type and speed, in my opinion it should be psionic. the ghost snipe is change should be reverted and the ghost base attack vs light should be the counter to zealots, that would make sense on so many levels. what does its armour class ahve to dow ith anything? having trouble with banelings clearing your ravens? aside from Thors and phoenix ravens arent going to take extra damage and TvT is the only amtch up ravens are actually used and Phoenixs arent used pretty much at all in PvT anyway ghost snipe change should not be reverted its disguisting that the Ghost used to literally hard counter every Zerg unit Its disgusting that the Infestor counters literally every unit (except Ghost)...:/? Infestors can deal with - anything! Snipe didnt deal with roach ling bane, drop/nydus zergs were diguring ghosttank out. But balance patches helped them fix it ezpz ...? You obviously don't play at a high level if you think that. Ghost tank countered *everything*. Ghosts could deal with every Zerg unit pretty easily (other than lings... kind of) and tanks did the rest. Infestors are that strong to make up for Zerg's otherwise crappy units; they deserve a nerf, but only if it's accompanied by a subsequent buff to other units. Are you serious? Taeja barely won the only TvZ he played ve an extremely out of form Losira. That is no proof of a win that shows tvz is fine. Also, ghost tank is THE most immobile composition in the game. It was only imba on Shakuras. However, most pro zergs went for more broodlord / infestor / ultra (the countered u its) instead of Ling roach with drops to kill the bases which Terran could impossobly guard. I guess I dont play at the highest level, but do you even play at any level?? So stop the whining, you're one of the biggest balance whiners on the forum and have been banned for it before. Dont you people ever learn. So when I come with arguments you start insulting me? Nothing to do here >insert jetpack meme< Im not insulting you, and what arguements? Not talking about the post i quoted but previous posts where you do nothing but whine. Getting so old. Just... Nevermind. Fun thing is, I actually play as much Z as T ^^ I don't understand why I am so... Enthusiastic defending Terran, it just feels unjust and I dislike that... I want everybody to enjoy. I actually played Z in beta and up to S3, so I know hoe they feel. I apoligize if I insulted anybody, these are just emotions and moral feelings ;-)
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On July 25 2012 00:04 Warpath wrote: Didn't we already have a thread for this patch a long time ago, or has something changed? There are some new changes
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Nice, no balance changes! Hope the transition to HotS will be smooth and we won't have any huge changes before it.
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On July 25 2012 00:05 Toastie.NL wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 00:01 Reaps wrote:On July 24 2012 23:58 Toastie.NL wrote:On July 24 2012 23:57 Reaps wrote:On July 24 2012 23:55 Toastie.NL wrote:On July 24 2012 23:29 Skwid1g wrote:On July 24 2012 17:15 Toastie.NL wrote:On July 24 2012 17:12 Bensio wrote: I'm so glad there are no balance changes, nice that blizz have slowed down with changing stuff since the game is pretty balanced right now and HotS will knock that shit in the air anyway. Pretty balance if you play Zerg, ye. Oh well, this is no balance thread ... I skimmed through but I dont see the time it will arrive. When will it be patched in? I'm curious ! Terran MLG winner, PvP GSL finals, I'd say the other races are doing pretty well, wouldn't you? Balance changes shouldn't be thrown around quickly, if there's a problem they need to wait for the players to try and find a solution before even considering a balance change. On July 24 2012 23:00 Toastie.NL wrote:On July 24 2012 22:46 Forikorder wrote:On July 24 2012 22:30 graNite wrote:On July 24 2012 22:26 Gescom wrote: @graNite : If Terran is doing well statistically at top tiers of play, then what do you think needs to be done ? Well i respect your opinon more now that i noticed you play random. 99% of whines come from people just defending their race which makes argueing with them pointless because it will never end. Most important to me seem ghost and raven buffs. I want to see terran spellcasters to be used. The raven costs 200 gas and is a LIGHT unit ?! It gets sniped way too easy because of its armor type and speed, in my opinion it should be psionic. the ghost snipe is change should be reverted and the ghost base attack vs light should be the counter to zealots, that would make sense on so many levels. what does its armour class ahve to dow ith anything? having trouble with banelings clearing your ravens? aside from Thors and phoenix ravens arent going to take extra damage and TvT is the only amtch up ravens are actually used and Phoenixs arent used pretty much at all in PvT anyway ghost snipe change should not be reverted its disguisting that the Ghost used to literally hard counter every Zerg unit Its disgusting that the Infestor counters literally every unit (except Ghost)...:/? Infestors can deal with - anything! Snipe didnt deal with roach ling bane, drop/nydus zergs were diguring ghosttank out. But balance patches helped them fix it ezpz ...? You obviously don't play at a high level if you think that. Ghost tank countered *everything*. Ghosts could deal with every Zerg unit pretty easily (other than lings... kind of) and tanks did the rest. Infestors are that strong to make up for Zerg's otherwise crappy units; they deserve a nerf, but only if it's accompanied by a subsequent buff to other units. Are you serious? Taeja barely won the only TvZ he played ve an extremely out of form Losira. That is no proof of a win that shows tvz is fine. Also, ghost tank is THE most immobile composition in the game. It was only imba on Shakuras. However, most pro zergs went for more broodlord / infestor / ultra (the countered u its) instead of Ling roach with drops to kill the bases which Terran could impossobly guard. I guess I dont play at the highest level, but do you even play at any level?? So stop the whining, you're one of the biggest balance whiners on the forum and have been banned for it before. Dont you people ever learn. So when I come with arguments you start insulting me? Nothing to do here >insert jetpack meme< Im not insulting you, and what arguements? Not talking about the post i quoted but previous posts where you do nothing but whine. Getting so old. Just... Nevermind. Fun thing is, I actually play as much Z as T ^^ I don't understand why I am so... Enthusiastic defending Terran, it just feels unjust and I dislike that... I want everybody to enjoy. I actually played Z in beta and up to S3, so I know hoe they feel. I apoligize if I insulted anybody, these are just emotions and moral feelings ;-)
Well i respect your opinon more now that i noticed you play random. 99% of whines comes from people just defending their race so its pointless argueing with them because it will never end.
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Well time to wait another 2 months until they nerf zerg
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On July 25 2012 00:12 nyaru267 wrote: Well time to wait another 2 months until they nerf zerg This is a good thing 1)it means they are thoroughly testing balance changes. 2) they are giving the Metagame time to try and sort out if shit really is imba or not.
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haha balance whine , the second admin who doesn't know his job , I said all the races are balanced ,but terran and protoss can't use their race. terran needs multitask and protoss needs good amove
User was temp banned for this post.
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No balance change = no nerf for Terran/ more buff for other races (plz refer with previous patches)
So, this patch is good news for terran!
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I have to say, I'm most excited about the new fog of war. It looks so good.
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ah no balance changes at least they nerfed "You have voice chat disabled" :D
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