SaSes 99 cents about the game - Page 13
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Protagoras
United States4 Posts
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Douillos
France3195 Posts
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insanic
Germany6 Posts
Make a tab in hotkeys called priority units or something. You should be able to choose yourself what order you want to have your units. For example if you have templars and sentries in the same army you should be able if you want to have sentries or templars first. Hope you understand, like if you only have medivacs and marauders in the tab you have to press tab T to stim, should be able to choose if you want it like this or if u want marauders first so you don't have to tab. this is so needed. they could implement it like right now pls. | ||
BoxingKangaroo
Japan955 Posts
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Trasko
Sweden983 Posts
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soullogik
United States1171 Posts
no point looking for fixes | ||
Douillos
France3195 Posts
On October 19 2012 16:31 BoxingKangaroo wrote: Just goes to show you that pros are people too - and not above biased whines about their race. I feel for Blizzard having to consult with these guys for HoTS. Whatever man, im just saying, in what other discipline do you have direct access to pro or semi pros who come in and try to debate? When i see that the third post is something random bloke complaining 'cause this isnt in the blog section, I just ask myself why most people dont keep their fuckin mouth shut when all that comes out is useless crap. EDIT: im no Sase fan btw, this is a general rant about most T-L'ers and their attitude in general in the sc2 forum. | ||
Loacker
Italy17 Posts
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NightOfTheDead
Lithuania1711 Posts
AFAIK, ZvT is pretty balanced match up, but changing some things like infestor will have real impact. For example, removing chain fungling is asking for marines splits to easily get rid of infestors. However, infestors arent fine. Far from it. As a lot of other prominent people suggested, imo fungle should slow movespeed by a lot, instead of rooting you in place. | ||
L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
On October 19 2012 14:01 FakeDeath wrote: The moment he said put a timer on spawning pool during 1:20 or whatever the time for 10 pool is. I already wasn't taking him seriously. Unless you agreed that a timer should be put on spawning pool?LOL Sase is clearly complaining. Probably he just lost to a 6-pool recently. he kind of has a point, protoss can react perfectly to a 6pool, scout it off their 9scout and react 100% correctly and they wont be ahead at all. its impossible for a zerg to be behind after a 6pool if they play it right. this shouldnt happen. If you scout an all in and react perfectly, you should win 100% of the time, instead protoss win 50% of the time. | ||
Douillos
France3195 Posts
On October 19 2012 16:40 L3g3nd_ wrote: he kind of has a point, protoss can react perfectly to a 6pool, scout it off their 9scout and react 100% correctly and they wont be ahead at all. its impossible for a zerg to be behind after a 6pool if they play it right. this shouldnt happen. If you scout an all in and react perfectly, you should win 100% of the time, instead protoss win 50% of the time. I disagree on this point. Toss can cannon rush third or even natural and just cancel if it goes the wrong way. In that case toss didnt loose ANYTHING. An all in is an all in, If you go nexus into forge, thats a risk, if you go gateway expand naniwa style then it is a free win. | ||
nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On October 19 2012 16:31 BoxingKangaroo wrote: Just goes to show you that pros are people too - and not above biased whines about their race. I feel for Blizzard having to consult with these guys for HoTS. Why would you feel sorry for Blizzard when someone makes a polite post about possible changes? What you should feel bad about is the gazillion idiots writing not much more than one line posts basically saying "BLIZZARD SUCKS!" everyone they do something these days. Kind of how you should feel sorry for sase when reading yours. | ||
Satiinifi
Finland192 Posts
Not saying that pvz wouldnt look ridiculous aswell. | ||
BoxingKangaroo
Japan955 Posts
On October 19 2012 16:35 Douillos wrote: Whatever man, im just saying, in what other discipline do you have direct access to pro or semi pros who come in and try to debate? When i see that the third post is something random bloke complaining 'cause this isnt in the blog section, I just ask myself why most people dont keep their fuckin mouth shut when all that comes out is useless crap. It's good that the pro's want to share with us their views no argument there. But you seem to be suggesting that we can't disagree with them. Just because the post is from a pro, doesn't mean we must take their suggestions as automatically good. Pros are good and their opinions should rank higher than the average forum user sure. However Pro's are not infallible, and nor are they able to completely remove their own biases (they're human after all). If SaSe had come and made a well thought out post, looking at the PvZ matchup from both angles and making some reasonable suggestions of nerfs and buffs (both would be needed), then fine. We could still disagree with him, but he'd get deserved respect. What SaSe seemed to do though, was after a long day playing (probably tired), decided to list all the things he'd lost to recently that we was having trouble with as a player, called them balance issues and then decided on a (sometimes ridiculous) nerf to zerg to 'fix' it. He didn't even make the effort to put his nerfs into consistent packages (you should see some of the posts in the HoTS forum that do this), merely saying "I don't want them all, just some", which is useless because different ones work differently together. If I lined this post up against any random balance whine from a random TL user and removed the names, I doubt you could pick out the one from the pro player. Yes being a pro gives you special reverence. No, it doesn't excuse you for posting dumb stuff. That's why this belongs in blogs. | ||
multiversed
United States233 Posts
On October 19 2012 16:40 L3g3nd_ wrote: he kind of has a point, protoss can react perfectly to a 6pool, scout it off their 9scout and react 100% correctly and they wont be ahead at all. its impossible for a zerg to be behind after a 6pool if they play it right. this shouldnt happen. If you scout an all in and react perfectly, you should win 100% of the time, instead protoss win 50% of the time. so god just gifts you the right to expand unsafely? you are gambling the second you put that pylon down before proper scouting. when you gamble, there needs to be a downside to losing. further more, both protoss and terran have an insane ability to recover from an "all-in" (when both giving and receiving...teehee) and drag the game out until zerg dies of boredom. the thing that feels most wrong about all of this shit is that if i were to fail any "all-in" at any point there is very little chance for me to ever recover unless a royal fuck up is made. i hate to be dick but people have zero clue about that which they speak. it's really more just about saying things to get attention than it is to actually have them mean things around here. | ||
Darrkhan
Finland1236 Posts
I liked most of the ideas i think they have potential (I'm not playing Protoss i play Terran and zerg) | ||
dynwar7
1983 Posts
On October 19 2012 16:26 Douillos wrote: The amount of disrespect T-L'ers have for pros nowadays is saddening... I dont even understand Why any one would try to come here and even debate about anything with you douche bags! Or perhaps they are honest, not hypocrites? Many TLers show respect to pros. Its not about the pros. Its about the content. Sase's post here looks like a complaint regarding protoss, thats why people dont like it. Its not about the person its the content. | ||
Douillos
France3195 Posts
On October 19 2012 16:50 BoxingKangaroo wrote: It's good that the pro's want to share with us their views no argument there. But you seem to be suggesting that we can't disagree with them. Just because the post is from a pro, doesn't mean we must take their suggestions as automatically good. Pros are good and their opinions should rank higher than the average forum user sure. However Pro's are not infallible, and nor are they able to completely remove their own biases (they're human after all). If SaSe had come and made a well thought out post, looking at the PvZ matchup from both angles and making some reasonable suggestions of nerfs and buffs (both would be needed), then fine. We could still disagree with him, but he'd get deserved respect. What SaSe seemed to do though, was after a long day playing (probably tired), decided to list all the things he'd lost to recently that we was having trouble with as a player, called them balance issues and then decided on a (sometimes ridiculous) nerf to zerg to 'fix' it. He didn't even make the effort to put his nerfs into consistent packages (you should see some of the posts in the HoTS forum that do this), merely saying "I don't want them all, just some", which is useless because different ones work differently together. If I lined this post up against any random balance whine from a random TL user and removed the names, I doubt you could pick out the one from the pro player. Yes being a pro gives you special reverence. No, it doesn't excuse you for posting dumb stuff. That's why this belongs in blogs. It's just a question of respect and the wording you use. But hey man, whatever, I m avoiding anything else than the news on this site from now on (like on all sites really). Im not gonna change anything by bitching about how people act on TL nowadays, so im just gonna stop loosing my time! | ||
BoxingKangaroo
Japan955 Posts
On October 19 2012 16:45 nihlon wrote: Why would you feel sorry for Blizzard when someone makes a polite post about possible changes? What you should feel bad about is the gazillion idiots writing not much more than one line posts basically saying "BLIZZARD SUCKS!" everyone they do something these days. Kind of how you should feel sorry for sase when reading yours. The post was polite, but it was far high quality. A pro gamer is not a sacred cow. If one makes a bad post, I'm going to call them out on it. I do feel sorry for Blizzard when people say they suck for little reason. I stay away from any 'map' related thread for this exact reason. | ||
Douillos
France3195 Posts
On October 19 2012 16:56 dynwar7 wrote: Or perhaps they are honest, not hypocrites? Many TLers show respect to pros. Its not about the pros. Its about the content. Sase's post here looks like a complaint regarding protoss, thats why people dont like it. Its not about the person its the content. Go through a few of the pages in this thread and then tell me its about the content only | ||
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