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On April 29 2013 14:28 RyanRushia wrote: i voted yes for watching, no for payment, simply because of my schedule
i don't know when i'd be able to necessarily watch with my work/personal life going on, but i'd certainly love to watch if it was going on. i'd just be hesitant on spending money if i am not sure for a fact that i'd be able to watch often It's a 24/7 channel. You would be able to watch it often even with a terribly busy work/personal life going on. Because it's long term subscriptions just like a regular TV channel.
Come in at 3am, watch for 30 minutes while you unwind. Big event coming up? Invite some friends over to watch the game. Free time between work/school? Check out what's going on. Summer break? You have non stop eSports action to check out right here.
There's never any question of whether the money would be worth it. It will always be worth it. The question here would be how frequent would you use it, but regardless of the frequency, it'll be worth the money. Unless ofc you're not really an eSports fan. Then there's no reason for you to check out an eSports TV channel anyways.
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Nice in theory, but to make it worthwhile so much more content would have to be produced (like you said, documentaries), otherwise it would just be an endless rerun of matches etc, in which case a VOD syste mis way more effective.
Edit: Lol this was my 2000th post. Didn't realise. I would like to thank my family and friends and ofcourse TL for making this all possible. I also wish for world peace.
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As long as everything is so available via VOD, I think as nice as this idea is, TV style scheduling just doesn't compare.
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It's very close of Millenium TV (french).
It's 24/7, 50% with SC2 (Competitions, pro gamer training, SC2 fun games,2V2, vs viewers sometimes), 50% other games (MMO's, FPS,...esport or single player). From 2AM to 9:30 AM it's VOD. It's bassically live show 14:30 per a day. Every day.
There are 2 others channel (One for LoL, another for FPS like CoD) and an english channel may open in september.
It's free with ads. It's the TV channel I watch the most.
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On April 29 2013 14:58 B.I.G. wrote: Nice in theory, but to make it worthwhile so much more content would have to be produced (like you said, documentaries), otherwise it would just be an endless rerun of matches etc, in which case a VOD syste mis way more effective.
Edit: Lol this was my 2000th post. Didn't realise. I would like to thank my family and friends and ofcourse TL for making this all possible. I also wish for world peace. Not more content, but a collaboration of content.
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And here is the dilemma of eSports. The target audience is generally so young, they can't pay for anything. Don't mean this in a condescending manner, but high school students rarely have a job that can pay for everything they want. College students are generally poor. Kids right out of college don't get paid enough to afford rent, utilities, food, fun time, games, etc. There has to be a high enough opportunity cost for the kid to support eSports.
Just look at the overwhelming "Nah, it's gotta be free" in the votes.
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I'd definately pay five dollars for such a stream channel. The only problem is the amount of content that you need. Is there even enough to keep a channel going 24/7?
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On April 29 2013 07:59 mordk wrote: Question is: Is there enough content to make such a thing reliable in time? This is my biggest question...
For anyone that's watched ESPN between 2-4am even they have some stuff on loop.
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This would be so expensive to run lol.
Also no way you can just restream other past events.
If this idea was as simple as this TL post makes it seem, many would be doing it. Lots of $ involved.
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I don't think this is a viable concept because of the sheer number of streams available. You can open TL at nearly any time and find either a pro streaming, or some tournament running. The amount if would cost up front would be very hard to get back even though subs and then you'd have to pay for all the content ontop of that.
Be a better use of your time to have a site that just pulls in a bunch of streams that are currently live from various people...
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Im still amazed how many people dismiss the concept as not viable when we have proof of different organizations making it work right now. Also some people dont seem to be familiar with the concept of free-tv or ad sponsored television.
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Nope. Starts off all noble and the the one with the biggest viewers(LoL) devours the rest.
Don't see the point in it either.
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On April 29 2013 16:03 mrjpark wrote: And here is the dilemma of eSports. The target audience is generally so young, they can't pay for anything. Don't mean this in a condescending manner, but high school students rarely have a job that can pay for everything they want. College students are generally poor. Kids right out of college don't get paid enough to afford rent, utilities, food, fun time, games, etc. There has to be a high enough opportunity cost for the kid to support eSports.
Just look at the overwhelming "Nah, it's gotta be free" in the votes.
I thought I read a while back that the average age of a gamer is 28 or something. The reason why eSports mostly has younger viewers is because its relatively new to most. If more exposure got out there it may be able to pull an older and wealthier crowd. Hard to say though. If you could get consoles to participate, for example, get CoD to advertise for some related coverage, it might branch out better and get more people interested.
I think this idea has some merit, but some moves need to be made first.
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Hmm. Depends on what kind of content. There is enough content across all the majors that a 24/7 stream could happen, but it may be expensive to get broadcast (or re-broadcast) rights to different content, and trying to put together all original content would probably be an exercise in frustration unless you have your own organization set up to create and produce it, at which point you're basically going to be replicating all the leagues.
Not sure how fragmentation of the overall eSports community would affect it.
Something to keep in mind, though, IPL running 24/7 even with mostly rerunning the same content (Hyun's run through FightClub) was usually around 1-3k viewers every single time I looked. A lot depends on the content on the channel and when it comes to that, I don't think a start up right now is going to be able to compete well without bringing in outside content... and I'm not sure how willing MLG/NASL/DH/etc would be to allow straight rebroadcasts of their content.
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the question should not be whether people would tune in regularly.. If it's well-made and well-managed, people would do that, if it's badly made, then no.
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You could use this to show off less know content as well. Smaller tournaments, mods like Starbow, SC2BW and OneGoal etc...
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Give this to NASL :D
It'd probably be like most cable channels that have a niche audience. Replaying the same shows over and over for a few days, to ensure people have time to tune in at all times of the day. And there isn't enough content to fill it up with 100% unique things. Though none of this is a bad thing. Come to think of hasn't e-sports grown enough to warrant cable channels dedicated to it outside of Korea? Though honestly a 24/7 broadcast on Twitch would be fine.
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1 stream dedicated to sc2 for 6 hours or 4 different ones going 24?
don't think it'd work
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On April 29 2013 19:20 aka_star wrote: 1 stream dedicated to sc2 for 6 hours or 4 different ones going 24?
don't think it'd work
Lol its so easy, heres the solution:
I will set up my stream, and you can just watch me flick around on TL, reddit and youtube 24/7
same thing...
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make it a stream purely starcraft 2 and maybe some brood war to show some legacies? and sometimes let a progamer who doesn't stream play on it? and ask money for hd but free in low quality like gsl
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