asking their input on the HOTS expansion with pro-gaming perspective
i gotta be honest, this part is REALLY interesting
not got gonna bother with the drama part, will wait and see what happens
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SmoKim
Denmark10281 Posts
asking their input on the HOTS expansion with pro-gaming perspective i gotta be honest, this part is REALLY interesting not got gonna bother with the drama part, will wait and see what happens | ||
Benjef
United Kingdom6921 Posts
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
On July 08 2011 17:28 Benjef wrote: Ima sticking with gom they've been good to me so far :D. I can't imagine it being bad for the scene I agree for the most part, but if kespa gets an SC2 league and will stream without a stupid player with quality matches, then I will watch that. | ||
Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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cablesc
United States1540 Posts
Blizzard needs Kespa (and more importantly OGN and MBC*) in order to grow SC2 in Korea. Kespa needs SC2 in order to build their audience outside of Korea. It's a perfect marriage of convenience for the two sides. * SC2 really needs exposure on dedicated esports channels like OGN and MBC. They're only catching the hardcore fans right now with Gomplayer and their current cable deal. | ||
sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On July 08 2011 16:47 Madder wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2011 16:38 JiPrime wrote: On July 08 2011 16:36 Jayme wrote: On July 08 2011 16:32 JiPrime wrote: On July 08 2011 16:30 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: On July 08 2011 16:29 Goibon wrote: Ugh, i thought i'd never have to think about Kespa. I thought we were done with that organization. I was hoping i could come into SC2 as a spectator and enjoy the game without Kespa influence. Oh well, all good things must come to an end eventually. Hope this is BS. Don't worry about the bad things or things you don't like about Kespa, Kespa will be working under Blizzard not the other way Exactly. Kespa is under the mercy of Blizzard now, and Blizzard is a freaking christ-like for letting them get away with 10+ years of copyright infringement. Without which you wouldn't have a huge SC2 E-sport community based game that was initially based entirely on the name starcraft alone. I have my problems with kespa but don't act as if Blizzard didn't benefit hugely. As a follower of BW scene since its birth, I guarantee you that BW would've been a runaway success anyways, with or without Kespa. If there wasn't Kespa then some other organization might have done it. You don't honestly believe that, do you? Either way, besides KeSPA going down the shitter, too many good things have come out of this '10+ years of copyright infringement'. Actually if you look at the history kespa really hurt the BW scene when they came about, sure they made some changes, none of them really improved the scene, and those changes came at a large cost to OGN/MBC. | ||
theBizness
United States696 Posts
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On July 08 2011 17:28 SmoKim wrote: i gotta be honest, this part is REALLY interesting not got gonna bother with the drama part, will wait and see what happens yes, it would be great if SC2 finally become legit ESPORTS game i dont see any serious television streaming sc2 without no-lag assurance (aka give lan or gtfo), also i imagine pro players will request lan support | ||
tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49043 Posts
On July 08 2011 17:28 SmoKim wrote: i gotta be honest, this part is REALLY interesting not got gonna bother with the drama part, will wait and see what happens I was gonna say the same thing! SC2 to benefit from KeSPA in both Balance and Esports. | ||
Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
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Savern101
United Kingdom859 Posts
I'm not really sure how important KESPA really is to the future of SC2. I think it might be, but only in Korea. I think a year ago, we were all thinking about how BW was, how big it was, especially in Korea. But within this past year SC2 has exploded globally in a way BW never did. I truly feel that SC2 doesn't need a big following in Korea to be a big eSports success, so long as there are quality players coming out of Korea, to compete on the global scene (which is happening increasingly often, look at Rain/Hwangsin + all the koreans entering online events) I'll be quite upset if somehow Blizzard drops GOM in favour of KESPA, since they've done such a great drop so far, and are encouraging a global SC2 scene with the MLG partnership. I don't think televised production like OGN/MBC is required personally. The future is the internet/streaming. | ||
Executor1
1353 Posts
Sounds pretty legit though i knew this would happen sooner or later, possibly BW players still in contracts with their teams/kespa that want to switch over may have a chance to do so. Im not very knowledgeable on the bw scene in korea, but with the amount of popularity sc2 is gaining around the world i think its a smart move for kespa if its true. Right now they dont really have viewers outside of korea (very few compared to gsl) for their pro leagues as there is no english commentary. With a new starcraft 2 league and the addition of english commentators they could gain an international following (like gom has) and obviously thats where the big bucks are. Either way im excited the korean players need more options for leagues at the moment and kespa/blizzard may make that a reality. There are just too many talented players in korea right now and not enough leagues for them to play in. | ||
[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On July 08 2011 14:45 JiPrime wrote: In this sense, BW should not have survived WC3, but it did. Of course with SC2, BW will eventually phase out; but I think it should not be forced. The people should switch as they like, not because Blizzard ends the support.Well, let's face it. It's an old game running on 4:3 screen ratio with 640 x 480 resolution with 256 colors. Not going on to support BW sends a message to SC2 players: "When we have a new game, we probably stop supporting SC2." | ||
theBizness
United States696 Posts
On July 08 2011 17:50 Executor1 wrote: Either way im excited the korean players need more options for leagues at the moment and kespa/blizzard may make that a reality. There are just too many talented players in korea right now and not enough leagues for them to play in. True, but there's a flip side to this. If KESPA continues with it's restrictions, it will give rise to high level players who will no chance of ever facing each other (if GSL still remains). | ||
BreakerD
United States159 Posts
2. We all know that games like BW and SC2 can not co-exist one has to die for the other to succeed, for example look at tourny's involving counter strike its either source or 1.6 (same thing goes for street fighter). 3. IFand when Kespa does take over sc2. It will be the end of foreign has sc2. Why I say this? Because the same thing happened to the foreign sc bw. When korea 1,2,3 every international tourny regarding BW in a dominate fashion it killed the foreign scene, no matter how hard the foreigners tried they could not catch up in skill level. Also people who keeps on saying sc2 will replace bw in 5 years, should know that within 5 years sc3 will probably be out and this debate will start from the same place as the topic of BW and SC2. | ||
insaneMicro
Germany761 Posts
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zzdd
United States484 Posts
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
On July 08 2011 17:58 [F_]aths wrote: Show nested quote + In this sense, BW should not have survived WC3, but it did. Of course with SC2, BW will eventually phase out; but I think it should not be forced. The people should switch as they like, not because Blizzard ends the support.On July 08 2011 14:45 JiPrime wrote: Well, let's face it. It's an old game running on 4:3 screen ratio with 640 x 480 resolution with 256 colors. Not going on to support BW sends a message to SC2 players: "When we have a new game, we probably stop supporting SC2." Outside of korea, bw didn't survive Wc3. Especially in europe, as 90% of the top european sc2 players were active in wc3. | ||
StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
On July 08 2011 17:58 [F_]aths wrote: Show nested quote + In this sense, BW should not have survived WC3, but it did. Of course with SC2, BW will eventually phase out; but I think it should not be forced. The people should switch as they like, not because Blizzard ends the support.On July 08 2011 14:45 JiPrime wrote: Well, let's face it. It's an old game running on 4:3 screen ratio with 640 x 480 resolution with 256 colors. Not going on to support BW sends a message to SC2 players: "When we have a new game, we probably stop supporting SC2." No, it says, "When we have Starcraft 3, we will stop supporting Starcraft 2" sure. | ||
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