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On July 08 2011 19:34 Elementsu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 19:24 imperator-xy wrote: if that was true i would actually jizz in my pants
i love bw but BISU PLAYING SC2 would destroy my brain You don`t love bw then... -.-
whats wrong with wanting to see the great players of bw playing a game you play, follow, watch and love?
i love seeing july and boxer play sc2. imagine seeing Flash and Jaedong in MLG vs foreign players like idra, thorzain, naniwa etc.
how can that be a bad thing? it doesn't mean we don't love bw but its time to move on. i'd much rather see the bw players go to sc2 rather than them retiring and never see them play again.
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On July 08 2011 18:05 StyLeD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 17:58 [F_]aths wrote:On July 08 2011 14:45 JiPrime wrote: Well, let's face it.
It's an old game running on 4:3 screen ratio with 640 x 480 resolution with 256 colors. In this sense, BW should not have survived WC3, but it did. Of course with SC2, BW will eventually phase out; but I think it should not be forced. The people should switch as they like, not because Blizzard ends the support. Not going on to support BW sends a message to SC2 players: "When we have a new game, we probably stop supporting SC2." No, it says, "When we have Starcraft 3, we will stop supporting Starcraft 2" sure. This Blizzcon will have no WC3 matches. This could mean that with WC4, Blizzard could decide to stop hosting SC2 tournaments at Blizzcon, too.
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I am 100% sure kespa is not just going to abandon BW rofl
As long as it is still profitable and popular, kespa will put all their effort into it.
I'm sure there was more about getting kespas input on some decisions and gauging what their interest is in SC2.
Please stop with the Bisu in SC2 ZOMG comments. It won't happen anytime soon.
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does this mean flash and jaedong will go to sc2!!!!!!!!!!!! holy cow
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On July 08 2011 20:00 papaz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 19:34 Elementsu wrote:On July 08 2011 19:24 imperator-xy wrote: if that was true i would actually jizz in my pants
i love bw but BISU PLAYING SC2 would destroy my brain You don`t love bw then... -.- whats wrong with wanting to see the great players of bw playing a game you play, follow, watch and love? i love seeing july and boxer play sc2. imagine seeing Flash and Jaedong in MLG vs foreign players like idra, thorzain, naniwa etc. how can that be a bad thing? it doesn't mean we don't love bw but its time to move on. i'd much rather see the bw players go to sc2 rather than them retiring and never see them play again. For every BW player who changes to SC2, another will quit gaming completely and never be seen in a professional match again. Is that a great thing? It's one thing for both scenes to exist side by side, it's another to hope that one industry dies to benefit the other.
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On July 08 2011 19:49 Ribbon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 19:47 konadora wrote: oh fuck please dont abandon BW seriously If KeSPA abandons BW, someone else will take it up. Not that they're going to.
I sure hope you're right about this
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On July 08 2011 20:01 [F_]aths wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 18:05 StyLeD wrote:On July 08 2011 17:58 [F_]aths wrote:On July 08 2011 14:45 JiPrime wrote: Well, let's face it.
It's an old game running on 4:3 screen ratio with 640 x 480 resolution with 256 colors. In this sense, BW should not have survived WC3, but it did. Of course with SC2, BW will eventually phase out; but I think it should not be forced. The people should switch as they like, not because Blizzard ends the support. Not going on to support BW sends a message to SC2 players: "When we have a new game, we probably stop supporting SC2." No, it says, "When we have Starcraft 3, we will stop supporting Starcraft 2" sure. This Blizzcon will have no WC3 matches. This could mean that with WC4, Blizzard could decide to stop hosting SC2 tournaments at Blizzcon, too. If there is a WC4...
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It really depends on HoTs. They need to make the skills ceiling higher for kespa to switch over. They need more micro-able units for zerg and need to get rid of boring units such as the colo or thor.
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If they just add SC2 under their belt, it's fine, I REALLY don't want them to abandon BW, and they wold be fools if they did.
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On July 08 2011 20:04 DoomsVille wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 20:01 [F_]aths wrote:On July 08 2011 18:05 StyLeD wrote:On July 08 2011 17:58 [F_]aths wrote:On July 08 2011 14:45 JiPrime wrote: Well, let's face it.
It's an old game running on 4:3 screen ratio with 640 x 480 resolution with 256 colors. In this sense, BW should not have survived WC3, but it did. Of course with SC2, BW will eventually phase out; but I think it should not be forced. The people should switch as they like, not because Blizzard ends the support. Not going on to support BW sends a message to SC2 players: "When we have a new game, we probably stop supporting SC2." No, it says, "When we have Starcraft 3, we will stop supporting Starcraft 2" sure. This Blizzcon will have no WC3 matches. This could mean that with WC4, Blizzard could decide to stop hosting SC2 tournaments at Blizzcon, too. If there is a WC4...
I can assure you 100% right now, that there will be WC 4, SC3, WC 5, and SC 4, at least
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I honestly hope they don't abandon BW. I know SC2 is all the rage right now on TL, but I can't really get into it from a spectator's perspective. I do like playing it, as it's much easier for casual play than SC1. But watching it on TV is still very lacking. Here's to them making it more exciting in future expansions.
OTOH, I do kind of want to see just how TBLS caliber players stack up against current SC2 players. But not at the expense of BW as a spectator sport.
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On July 08 2011 20:01 [F_]aths wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 18:05 StyLeD wrote:On July 08 2011 17:58 [F_]aths wrote:On July 08 2011 14:45 JiPrime wrote: Well, let's face it.
It's an old game running on 4:3 screen ratio with 640 x 480 resolution with 256 colors. In this sense, BW should not have survived WC3, but it did. Of course with SC2, BW will eventually phase out; but I think it should not be forced. The people should switch as they like, not because Blizzard ends the support. Not going on to support BW sends a message to SC2 players: "When we have a new game, we probably stop supporting SC2." No, it says, "When we have Starcraft 3, we will stop supporting Starcraft 2" sure. This Blizzcon will have no WC3 matches. This could mean that with WC4, Blizzard could decide to stop hosting SC2 tournaments at Blizzcon, too.
There was WC3 matches last year at the same time as SC2 matches.
I think the reason is more like there isn't a WC3 tournament community outside of China anymore.
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If this really goes through, Kespa will probably stop giving out progaming licenses and let the current players play it out.
I really hope they don't abandon BW though. Yeah, it's outdated and I'll probably never ever play it again, but it's so magical to watch the progamers play.
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before they should add more microable units people should get good enough to micro the units (they are just so fast compard to bw). Its probably more a kespa will advertise hots thing and gets something really nice (bw licence for a few years etc). Something were both sides will profit from. I mean kespa ruined wol sales a bit with their connections all over the place xD. About bw pros switching over, will probably never happen (maybe after a year of secret training once bw isn't more popular anymore xD ).
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On July 08 2011 19:47 Ribbon wrote:Only because they shut down the competition.
Monopoly in sports leagues is not a bad thing. There are only 10 BW teams as is. It's not like fragmentation makes for better viewership. Whether you like the stuff Kespa has done over the years, they get credit for coming together to "create" the league we now know today.
I mean, MLB/NBA/NFL are monopolizing their respective sports in America. Doesn't make them bad.
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On July 08 2011 20:04 Ryo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 20:00 papaz wrote:On July 08 2011 19:34 Elementsu wrote:On July 08 2011 19:24 imperator-xy wrote: if that was true i would actually jizz in my pants
i love bw but BISU PLAYING SC2 would destroy my brain You don`t love bw then... -.- whats wrong with wanting to see the great players of bw playing a game you play, follow, watch and love? i love seeing july and boxer play sc2. imagine seeing Flash and Jaedong in MLG vs foreign players like idra, thorzain, naniwa etc. how can that be a bad thing? it doesn't mean we don't love bw but its time to move on. i'd much rather see the bw players go to sc2 rather than them retiring and never see them play again. For every BW player who changes to SC2, another will quit gaming completely and never be seen in a professional match again. Is that a great thing? It's one thing for both scenes to exist side by side, it's another to hope that one industry dies to benefit the other.
Sc2 being an official Kespa title would rais its popularity in a huge way. There will be a giant wave of new talents and gamers who will claim the top of pro gaming. As it is already happening in the west. I remember Idra answering an interview question, if he was thinking that there will be new top players coming in SC2 and he said "No way, the old pro gamers will be on top because of their experience, and no new player will have a chance." But here they are, HuK, Select, Naniwa, winning many tournaments.
BW co-existing with SC2 is a fine thing, but it's an very old title and slow downs the progress of SC2.
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If KeSPA were involved with SC2, the one thing I'd worry about would be them keeping their grudges against pro-gamers who switched from BW to SC2, like July, Nada, Boxer and many of the other BW players who were not that well known at the time. If I remember correctly, they all had their pro-gaming licences revoked for abandoning BW. It would really suck to see KeSPA holding a lifetime grudge against those players, so that they'll only ever be able to compete in a possibly dying GSL and foreign tournaments. Of course, KeSPA would be plain stupid to do something like that, but I've seen enough crap from them to fear it.
Still, televised SC2 in Korea would be priceless for SC2's success, I guess, and it seems that KeSPA is ruling OGN and MBC with a iron fist, so striking a deal with KeSPA would definitely have great value, but to be honest, I'd rather see the end of GOM's exclusivity deals and direct deals between Blizz on the one hand, and GOM, OGN and MBC on the other hand, no KeSPA involved.
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On July 08 2011 20:43 Kafkaesk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 20:04 Ryo wrote:On July 08 2011 20:00 papaz wrote:On July 08 2011 19:34 Elementsu wrote:On July 08 2011 19:24 imperator-xy wrote: if that was true i would actually jizz in my pants
i love bw but BISU PLAYING SC2 would destroy my brain You don`t love bw then... -.- whats wrong with wanting to see the great players of bw playing a game you play, follow, watch and love? i love seeing july and boxer play sc2. imagine seeing Flash and Jaedong in MLG vs foreign players like idra, thorzain, naniwa etc. how can that be a bad thing? it doesn't mean we don't love bw but its time to move on. i'd much rather see the bw players go to sc2 rather than them retiring and never see them play again. For every BW player who changes to SC2, another will quit gaming completely and never be seen in a professional match again. Is that a great thing? It's one thing for both scenes to exist side by side, it's another to hope that one industry dies to benefit the other. Sc2 being an official Kespa title would rais its popularity in a huge way. There will be a giant wave of new talents and gamers who will claim the top of pro gaming. As it is already happening in the west. I remember Idra answering an interview question, if he was thinking that there will be new top players coming in SC2 and he said "No way, the old pro gamers will be on top because of their experience, and no new player will have a chance." But here they are, HuK, Select, Naniwa, winning many tournaments. BW co-existing with SC2 is a fine thing, but it's an very old title and slow downs the progress of SC2. I`m sorry, but this is very stupid.
SC2 becoming official kespa game wont make sc2 more popular. Its apparent that the koreans dont embrace sc2 as much as blizz would like to, and the reason is not in kespa, but in the game itself. Its just not that good. Its pathetic to say that bw is slowing down the progress of SC2, because its exactly the other way around.
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This is quite interesting... I'd like to see how the future would turn out
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I believe they wont just abandon BW just like that. It will put progamers out of job. =.= imagine the rage and riot by players and fans.
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