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On August 13 2011 05:06 Derez wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 23:43 aurum510 wrote:This is going to sound really weird/disgusting, but as a child I basically did this procedure to myself over time. I have no gag reflex, so I am able to basically put my tongue up the back of my throat into the back of the nose area. It's called hypermobile tongue. And the area of the back of the throat that leads to the nose is the nasopharynx. You can look it up on google "hypermobile tongue nasopharynx". Needless to say, before I did this to myself (it seemed natural, it hurt every day, but after a few weeks the skin was gone and healed) I was easily able to touch my tongue to the tip of my nose (on the outside). I guess this inspired me? P.S. I'm not weird or mutated or anything in any other way, it just happened! It's useful to remove mucus when you have issues with it, especially in the morning. Yeah. That sounds gross, but I have very fresh breath, as I take care of my mouth! For the visually inclined, here's a picture from wikipedia of the nasopharynx. That's why I can put my tongue. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Illu_pharynx.jpg[Edit]: I don't think I've told my fiancee I can do this yet... Maybe I should... Unless you're doing the abstinence before marriage thing, I'd assume she has noticed something by now ;p. why do you think she said yes!
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My god, the girl getting an operation is bad enough, but running this story is almost equivalent to the Sun running an article on werewolves being behind kidnappings or something
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On August 13 2011 05:24 caradoc wrote: My god, the girl getting an operation is bad enough, but running this story is almost equivalent to the Sun running an article on werewolves being behind kidnappings or something That was last weeks story.
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Tongue Job sounds to much like Blow Job but for women! This is what made me open this thread.
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Sounds like it was placebo that helped her pronounce better...
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On August 12 2011 22:46 Jombozeus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 22:31 qrs wrote:On August 12 2011 22:25 synapse wrote: Asians can make L sounds? Of course--it's R's they have trouble with. You're getting the stereotype backwards. edit: Although from what I've heard, it's more that many Asian languages have a consonant that's sort of between a western R and L. South Asians have trouble with Ls and Korean/Japanese have trouble with Rs. Not that hard. Oh learry? I arways have tloubre with my Sssssss.
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This doesn't seem so far-fetched. I can't relate with the reasoning, but the surgery seemed very safe, basic, and pretty unnoticable otherwise. No big deal, imo.
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On August 12 2011 21:47 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 21:38 aebriol wrote: It scares me that people believe stories from the sun. Troll I buy it for the Sport, and just love the gossip they put in it too :3
More like you bought it for page 3.
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lol, i guess if your dedicated you can do anything
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I don't know if this is news to that many people, but it is common. My uncle underwent this surgery because he could not pronounce the "er" sound in English or Chinese. Many Korean celebrities do this as well to pronounce English better. This does not make it miraculously possible to speak a language fluently, but does overcome some minor barriers.
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On August 13 2011 05:38 Mutality wrote: lol, i guess if your dedicated you can do anything Including a lot of dumb things apparently.
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On August 12 2011 22:46 Jombozeus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 22:31 qrs wrote:On August 12 2011 22:25 synapse wrote: Asians can make L sounds? Of course--it's R's they have trouble with. You're getting the stereotype backwards. edit: Although from what I've heard, it's more that many Asian languages have a consonant that's sort of between a western R and L. South Asians have trouble with Ls and Korean/Japanese have trouble with Rs. Not that hard.
While I'm no specialist I have held jobs where I was in daily contact with asians (what I would consider north asians china/japan/koreas) The only truth I could deduce is that northern asians have problems with R's and are in denial about problems with L's. They were very much in the store to buy a raptop not a laptop. It was predominantly korean/japanese/chinese group
/I know I know CSB
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On August 12 2011 21:32 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +STUDENT Rhiannon Brooksbank-Jones has had surgery to lengthen her tongue so she can speak Korean like a native.
Rhiannon, 19, who hopes to live in Korea after university, found she had difficulties pronouncing some words.
Her dentist said it was because her tongue was shorter than average, which meant she could not make a distinctive L-sound that occurs in the Korean language.
So determined Rhiannon had surgeons snip part of the skin flap that attaches the tongue to the mouth - and it now reaches a full centimetre further.
She said: "Surgery was the only option. It's not like you can just stretch your tongue.
"Some people might say it's a bit extreme but I'm a perfectionist. My pronunciation was very foreign before but now I can speak with a Korean accent."
Rhiannon, of Beeston, Notts, is awaiting A-level results and hopes to do a Korean Studies degree at Sheffield University.
Mum Fiona said: "When she sets her mind to something she goes for it wholeheartedly." Source - TheSunInteresting! I have to love The Sun paper! Truely amazing news story i read this lunch time! She states that having a shorter tongue than average meant she couldnt pronouce "L-Words" very well and made her Korean acsent sound Foreign! Wonder if Tastosis have this trouble?
The Sun is probably the worst newspaper in Europe. They never research before they write an article and anyone who believes it is just as bad.
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ㄹ really isn't that hard to pronounce, you just need to practice it and even if you speak without a native korean accent, if your korean is good as a foreigner, no one is even going to give a shit, they will be surprised you attained fluency let alone an accent. This most likely had minimal improvement if the story is even real.
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I demand a recorded file for proof that this tongue job helps your Korean accent. I have a Korean friend who has a REALLY short tongue and he can down right speak fluently with a perfect accent.
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Two years of linguistics and I've never heard of such a problem. I've heard a black impressionist who can do flawless French, American, and Russian accents. I've met Korean students who spoke with perfect English accents, no residual Korean accent at all. I've heard of a certain California governor who meets with an accent coach every couple of weeks. But I've never heard of a tongue being too short to make certain sounds.
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I actually had this type of thing done when I was 4 or 5 years old still living in Russia, as I was having trouble rolling my Rs. Even being a native speaker, I had difficulty with this because of said skin flap..
It's a pretty simple operation. For me it wasnt that my tongue was too short, as much as it was that skin flap being too big. Was too young to remember any more details about it.
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On August 12 2011 22:46 Jombozeus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 22:31 qrs wrote:On August 12 2011 22:25 synapse wrote: Asians can make L sounds? Of course--it's R's they have trouble with. You're getting the stereotype backwards. edit: Although from what I've heard, it's more that many Asian languages have a consonant that's sort of between a western R and L. South Asians have trouble with Ls and Korean/Japanese have trouble with Rs. Not that hard.
Yeah Japanese have real trouble with Rs: らりれろる
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Korean parents cut off this portion of their tongue on their kids through surgery cause they think that will help the tongue become more flexible so their english pronunciation will be more "natural"
ridiculous nonsense
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