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On March 16 2012 11:06 Boxxer wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 11:02 Myles wrote:On March 16 2012 10:57 Boxxer wrote:On March 16 2012 10:23 Mr Showtime wrote:On March 16 2012 10:13 Boxxer wrote:On March 16 2012 07:10 Requizen wrote:Source: http://www.aikenstandard.com/story/0315Followup-with-school--3862406tl:dr - Teacher reads Ender's Game to her class as part of an attempt to get kids more interested in reading. 14 year old kid tells his mom, she complains to the school, teacher is put on "leave". I read Ender's Game (and indeed most of the series) around that age or younger, and it didn't scar me in any lasting way, in fact, it made me more interested in reading in general. However, I suppose I'm not indicative of every child that age. I also read Animorphs (which was actually really violent, reflecting back on it), and I don't know if those would pass the test either. Do you think Orson Scott Card's books are too "pornographic" or offensive? How about other books that are written for that age range? I haven't read it, but the fact you even have to ask if something is too pornographic or offensive obviously means it's not appropriate. You answered your own question. If you haven't bothered to read it, don't formulate an opinion on the matter. You can't. Those questions are asked just to find some sort of rationale to give this teacher leave. If you read the book, you'd know how absurd this is. Doesn't matter dumbass, if I have to check with others if something is going to offend people, it's not a good idea to do it EVER, prove me wrong. Anything can offend someone. Living by your mantra would mean never doing anything ever. Ironically, you made a personal assault in the same post talking about never doing something that has potential to offend someone. In the book's case, I've not read it either, but everyone here has said the only thing even close to offensive is the mention of nudity. And that can't be that offensive considering we have nude statures and other 'tasteful' art all over public places. The OP said porn, not nudity lol., plus teaching and living are two different things, if you take drugs and you like doing it, do you think it's fine to tell others taking drugs is ok? Of course its not. Well, if posters here are to be believed, the parent(s) don't know what they're talking about. And I'm not sure what you mean exactly by 'ok', but I do tell people that smoking pot is fine aside from the legal risks associated with it.
edit: I'd also imagine that it being an award winning book for ages 12+ would say all that's needed.
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I read that book in 6th grade and later on had to in 7th grade and I didn't even consider that kind of stuff (petra's nudity, shower scene, didn't realize what was going on when described one guy's giant holographic penis)
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People in this world have to stop getting butthurt.
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I know someone (4th grade teacher) who got chewed out because they had Ender's Game on their desk and one of their students saw it and then was motivated to reach the book themselves (I think there's some swearing in the book).
And yes, large parts of the US are like this unfortunately. It's not everyone though
Ironically enough it comes from the areas of the country that support politicians who promise smaller government.
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This is insane, parents should not be allowed to monitor things like this, if they are against a book that is critically acclaimed and at a childrens reading level, its not fair to say its child-pornography in the slightest, i read rabbit run and that was much more pornographic as a junior in highschool, that book has legit sex scenes so idk what this book that has little in it like that should be considered porn.
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...and so they banned Catcher in the Rye.
geez I wish people had shown me Ender earlier -_- these parents + these rules = just nonsensical
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if some crazy parent did that in any school here in austria they would get laughed at im pretty sure
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Wait... what? I think when I was 14 Ender's game was required reading for one of the classes... must be a private school.
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wow. when I was 14 I read 1984, which has multiple references to sex(and things much more scary to a young person/parents). And I'm in the Deep South. Jesus Christ...
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There is this thing called Over parenting... there seems to be quite a bit of that in some parts of US. It's really a shame people get in trouble for something so stupid.
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I had to read that in 9th grade, and we read worse stuff than that when I was in 7th grade..
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10 bucks says the parents of this kid have no problem letting him play battlefield or watching violent movies. People are getting more and more retarded...Harry potter is witch craft remember guys? Its like the USA has a personal vendetta against books.
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The Wars by Timothy Findley is taught in high schools here. There are graphic depictions of sadomasochism (in a whorehouse), the violent gang-rape of the main character (committed by fellow soldiers), and general WW1 cruelty. The book is grim is what I'm saying.
But yeah, what a cute moral crusade that parent is on. Here in Canada we apparently just don't give a shit about what our kids read, so long as they do. I wonder what it would be like to care that much about something that matters so little.
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I don't understand America these days, or generally parents of western countries. Its seems ok that TV and Internet filled with violence and almost-pornographic stuff which are available 24/7 and yet they complain about Ender's Game book. What a load of crap. I guess its how parents show off they 'care' about their children. What about the story 'Red hat girl' where wolf eats everybody, its being told to infants for generations.
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On March 16 2012 12:23 BandonBanshee wrote: 10 bucks says the parents of this kid have no problem letting him play battlefield or watching violent movies. People are getting more and more retarded...Harry potter is witch craft remember guys? Its like the USA has a personal vendetta against books.
The USA or this mother and the administration who gave the teacher leave? 10 bucks says that you didn't put all that much thought into what you wrote.
Moreover, I agree with your main point.
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Reminds me of first year in high school when we were watching some educational film I can't remember, and there was a breast on screen for about half a second. Next day we are told someone's parents complained and we cannot watch the rest of the film.
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WHAT?!?!
Ender's Game is possibly one of the most educational and important books of our generation. A ton of entrepreneurs list Ender's Game as their number one book on where they learned the skills of leadership. And it is a classic for kids... how is this grounds for punishment?!?!
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I remember in 9th that Ender's Game was a choice book we could've read out of four other books. The english teach was chill about it. We also read To kill a mockingbird, which for obvious reasons are also frowned upon.
Now we're reading The Catcher in the Rye in junior year, and that book is also frowned upon as well, but I haven't yet found out why since we're only 6 chapters in.
Really silly to put a teacher on leave for that. I can see a soccer mom - who thinks her child's ass has stars shining out of it - doing that.
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Schools in the states get butthurt over the most unimportant shit, at least public schools do. Why else do you never/rarely see movies or read books in school with any amount of violence or serious themes in them? They treat you like fucking children. That said, I actually applaud that teacher for doing something that probably got a few kids curious about the book. Now they will get interested in reading, how the fuck is this a bad thing?
Oh, I just found out the article is from Aiken, S.C. That makes sense. People in S.C. are of the religious nutjob types. I wouldn't be suprised if it was a bunch of christian parents that complained.
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This kids parents are retards. Enders Game is an amazing book. I'd read it to my kids, and would love for schools to read more books like it. Also, the parents clearly haven't read the book, because although there is violent parts, it's all about taking responsibility for your actions and understanding the paths you've taken in life and what effect those choices had on others. If that's offensive then wow...
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