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On July 25 2012 02:05 uzushould wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 01:28 hooahah wrote: how can you guys still complain about the queen range when Terrans are doing fine in tournaments the is an obscene lie! Just because 1 terra lucky won a tornament does not mean everything is fine now. But to be honest it was obvios that this will happen......last months 24 tornament wins for zerg 3 for terra (now 4) and suddenly everyone is acting like the game is perfectly balanced...... i know this is not the balance thread but i just have to answer to someone who stone-cold lies. Language! Dont be so offensive ^^
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On July 25 2012 01:28 hooahah wrote: how can you guys still complain about the queen range when Terrans are doing fine in tournaments Terran is next to dead in foreign tournaments.
Maybe they're doing better in Korean weeklies or something, I wouldn't know. But as a terran player who prefers to watch foreign tournaments, I haven't had much to watch lately.
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On July 25 2012 01:41 IPA wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 01:28 hooahah wrote: how can you guys still complain about the queen range when Terrans are doing fine in tournaments Because bad players love having things to blame their losses on other than their own (lack of) skill.
THIS!
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On July 25 2012 02:08 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 01:28 hooahah wrote: how can you guys still complain about the queen range when Terrans are doing fine in tournaments Terran is next to dead in foreign tournaments. Maybe they're doing better in Korean weeklies or something, I wouldn't know. But as a terran player who prefers to watch foreign tournaments, I haven't had much to watch lately.
Taeja at the latest MLG arena?
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Fruitdealer wins 1st GSL = Game is imbalanced Buff Zerg. Nestea wins 2nd GSL = Game is imbalanced Buff Zerg. Teaja wins MLG Arena = Game is fine, if anything Terran is OP.
People never cease to amaze me.
+ Show Spoiler + The only thing that SC2 needs in my opinion:
Terran: Needs a lategame transition. Essentially, this will most likely be a Mech buff.
Zerg: Needs a way to be able to win games before Hive, without going All-In. They also need more diversity.
Protoss: Need more diversity.
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On July 24 2012 17:05 digmouse wrote:The Patch 1.5.0 release patch notes has just emerged from what looks like to be the embedded launcher PN page hereShow nested quote +[b]StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty - Patch 1.5.0
Zerg Morphing units no longer become stuck in their cocoon state if they are underneath a Hatchery.
Does this mean that I can nolonger stop units from spawning by forcefielding around the hatchery and blocking the eggs in?
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On July 25 2012 02:11 Disengaged wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 02:08 Bagi wrote:On July 25 2012 01:28 hooahah wrote: how can you guys still complain about the queen range when Terrans are doing fine in tournaments Terran is next to dead in foreign tournaments. Maybe they're doing better in Korean weeklies or something, I wouldn't know. But as a terran player who prefers to watch foreign tournaments, I haven't had much to watch lately. Taeja at the latest MLG arena? If that supposed to make up for every other premium tournament prior to that having 0 terrans in top 8?
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On July 25 2012 02:05 uzushould wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 01:28 hooahah wrote: how can you guys still complain about the queen range when Terrans are doing fine in tournaments the is an obscene lie! Just because 1 terra lucky won a tornament does not mean everything is fine now. But to be honest it was obvios that this will happen......last months 24 tornament wins for zerg 3 for terra (now 4) and suddenly everyone is acting like the game is perfectly balanced...... i know this is not the balance thread but i just have to answer to someone who stone-cold lies. Saying Taeja got lucky is a lie.
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Glad to see Blizzard has the maturity to realize it can take many months for metagame to evolve and that its too soon to act on the queens. Also looking forward to a more efficient game with cooler physics.
Looking VERY forward to the new interface!
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On July 25 2012 02:18 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 02:05 uzushould wrote:On July 25 2012 01:28 hooahah wrote: how can you guys still complain about the queen range when Terrans are doing fine in tournaments the is an obscene lie! Just because 1 terra lucky won a tornament does not mean everything is fine now. But to be honest it was obvios that this will happen......last months 24 tornament wins for zerg 3 for terra (now 4) and suddenly everyone is acting like the game is perfectly balanced...... i know this is not the balance thread but i just have to answer to someone who stone-cold lies. Saying Taeja got lucky is a lie. Very true, but it's still true that any Terran other than a top-notch, Korean-trained one is having a really difficult time posting any results these days. Any time you see the random Terran make it deep in an international tournament, you can practically guarantee it's a Code S Korean.
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On July 25 2012 02:13 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 02:11 Disengaged wrote:On July 25 2012 02:08 Bagi wrote:On July 25 2012 01:28 hooahah wrote: how can you guys still complain about the queen range when Terrans are doing fine in tournaments Terran is next to dead in foreign tournaments. Maybe they're doing better in Korean weeklies or something, I wouldn't know. But as a terran player who prefers to watch foreign tournaments, I haven't had much to watch lately. Taeja at the latest MLG arena? If that supposed to make up for every other premium tournament prior to that having 0 terrans in top 8?
Never said anything like that.
Just suggested something since you have nothing to watch
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On July 25 2012 02:13 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 02:11 Disengaged wrote:On July 25 2012 02:08 Bagi wrote:On July 25 2012 01:28 hooahah wrote: how can you guys still complain about the queen range when Terrans are doing fine in tournaments Terran is next to dead in foreign tournaments. Maybe they're doing better in Korean weeklies or something, I wouldn't know. But as a terran player who prefers to watch foreign tournaments, I haven't had much to watch lately. Taeja at the latest MLG arena? If that supposed to make up for every other premium tournament prior to that having 0 terrans in top 8? There's a difference between the first 12 tournaments immediately after the patch, and the most recent 12 tournaments. In the more recent tournaments (after terrans had ample time to figure stuff out) they have been doing much better. The actual WINNER of a tournament isn't much balance related. If you look at brackets and take skill into consideration (and their personal best/worst matchup), they're not doing poorly.
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It is no longer possible to queue up multiple build commands using a single Drone.
Aww. I used to enjoy giving my drone false hope.
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On July 25 2012 02:18 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 02:05 uzushould wrote:On July 25 2012 01:28 hooahah wrote: how can you guys still complain about the queen range when Terrans are doing fine in tournaments the is an obscene lie! Just because 1 terra lucky won a tornament does not mean everything is fine now. But to be honest it was obvios that this will happen......last months 24 tornament wins for zerg 3 for terra (now 4) and suddenly everyone is acting like the game is perfectly balanced...... i know this is not the balance thread but i just have to answer to someone who stone-cold lies. Saying Taeja got lucky is a lie.
I think he meant to say that Taeja got lucky with having to face only 1 zerg (Losira who isn't so hot in zvt) in the tournament... ofc Taeja played fantastically in MLG.
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On July 25 2012 02:26 mrlie3 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 02:18 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 25 2012 02:05 uzushould wrote:On July 25 2012 01:28 hooahah wrote: how can you guys still complain about the queen range when Terrans are doing fine in tournaments the is an obscene lie! Just because 1 terra lucky won a tornament does not mean everything is fine now. But to be honest it was obvios that this will happen......last months 24 tornament wins for zerg 3 for terra (now 4) and suddenly everyone is acting like the game is perfectly balanced...... i know this is not the balance thread but i just have to answer to someone who stone-cold lies. Saying Taeja got lucky is a lie. I think he meant to say that Taeja got lucky with having to face only 1 zerg (Losira who isn't so hot in zvt) in the tournament... ofc Taeja played fantastically in MLG. I dunno, he kinda said exactly that Taeja lucky won a tournament.
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On July 25 2012 02:18 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 02:05 uzushould wrote:On July 25 2012 01:28 hooahah wrote: how can you guys still complain about the queen range when Terrans are doing fine in tournaments the is an obscene lie! Just because 1 terra lucky won a tornament does not mean everything is fine now. But to be honest it was obvios that this will happen......last months 24 tornament wins for zerg 3 for terra (now 4) and suddenly everyone is acting like the game is perfectly balanced...... i know this is not the balance thread but i just have to answer to someone who stone-cold lies. Saying Taeja got lucky is a lie.
don t get me wrong, he played great and deserves the win, but on the other hand he had luck that stephano didn t made it into the finals because, against stephano it would have been a completely different story....look how stephano owned ryung, and ryungs TvZ is at least as good as taejas....
probably there is allways a little bit of luck required to win such a tornament at least when it comes to the mu and enemies that you have to play against......
all i want to say is that you can not say if TvZ is balanced or not due to one tornament win from a terran player who didn t even had to play against the best zergs out there....
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On July 25 2012 02:13 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 02:11 Disengaged wrote:On July 25 2012 02:08 Bagi wrote:On July 25 2012 01:28 hooahah wrote: how can you guys still complain about the queen range when Terrans are doing fine in tournaments Terran is next to dead in foreign tournaments. Maybe they're doing better in Korean weeklies or something, I wouldn't know. But as a terran player who prefers to watch foreign tournaments, I haven't had much to watch lately. Taeja at the latest MLG arena? If that supposed to make up for every other premium tournament prior to that having 0 terrans in top 8?
Um...which premium tournament are these? There have been terrans in most of the top 8 for almost every tournament.
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Taeja did play fantastic in the MLG. But he did only have to play one ZvT. Additionally Taeja is the first terran to win a major tournament since april I believe? I mean, thats a pretty big drought. When neural had like 9 range and Z's were dominating P in every game, I seem to remember that getting fixed rather quickly. And around that time when the EMP radius was pretty big, and T's were beating the crap out of P because of it, it got fixed relatively quickly. But for some reason, whenever there is something that gets buffed and it hurts a matchup vs T, they are just expected to "l2p." I don't get it.
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On July 24 2012 17:10 Toastie.NL wrote:Queen Range 5 didnt get PTR. A lot of things dont get PTR. Also, this means HotS Beta is one and half a month away?
One and half a month Blizzard time ~ 1 1/2 year real time.
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On July 25 2012 02:28 uzushould wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 02:18 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 25 2012 02:05 uzushould wrote:On July 25 2012 01:28 hooahah wrote: how can you guys still complain about the queen range when Terrans are doing fine in tournaments the is an obscene lie! Just because 1 terra lucky won a tornament does not mean everything is fine now. But to be honest it was obvios that this will happen......last months 24 tornament wins for zerg 3 for terra (now 4) and suddenly everyone is acting like the game is perfectly balanced...... i know this is not the balance thread but i just have to answer to someone who stone-cold lies. Saying Taeja got lucky is a lie. don t get me wrong, he played great and deserves the win, but on the other hand he had luck that stephano didn t made it into the finals because, against stephano it would have been a completely different story....look how stephano owned ryung, and ryungs TvZ is at least as good as taejas....
I am unimpressed with your argument and assumption that Stephano would have crushed Taeja. Until those finals are played at a different event, we don't know. And any claim otherwise is just that, a wild claim with little merit.
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