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Just a quick heads up, looks like the Raven got the speed buff after all, just not in WoL.
Combined with the lowered energy cost of the Seeker Missile it's easily the best addition for Terran in HotS in my opinion.
Edit: For the people who weren't aware of this yet, the Energy cost of the Seeker Missile has been lowered to 100, allowing 1 Raven to shoot 2.
Pretty cool stuff.
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Combined with the lowered energy cost of the Seeker Missile it's easily the best addition for Terran in HotS in my opinion.
Waaaaaaait. Seeker missile is cheaper ?
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On September 07 2012 21:37 Mauti wrote:Show nested quote +Combined with the lowered energy cost of the Seeker Missile it's easily the best addition for Terran in HotS in my opinion. Waaaaaaait. Seeker missile is cheaper ? Yes, it costs 100 energy. It might be even overpowered now lol, whenever you engage Terran, you just eat 3-4 Seeker Missiles and your army disappears. ;D
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Glad they are actually using the beta to try out new things
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Can be it a joke or true, but Raven can be considered as new unit for Terrans in HotS
Also what is the counter to mass ravens? Don't say me corruptors, they are bad vs PDD
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On September 07 2012 23:28 Existor wrote:Can be it a joke or true, but Raven can be considered as new unit for Terrans in HotS Also what is the counter to mass ravens? Don't say me corruptors, they are bad vs PDD
Anything AA would work pretty well provided you split your units decently. Corruptors would do pretty well despite PDD as they survive 2 direct seeker missile hits i believe.
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On September 07 2012 23:31 Lurk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2012 23:28 Existor wrote:Can be it a joke or true, but Raven can be considered as new unit for Terrans in HotS Also what is the counter to mass ravens? Don't say me corruptors, they are bad vs PDD Anything AA would work pretty well provided you split your units decently. Corruptors would do pretty well despite PDD as they survive 2 direct seeker missile hits i believe.
there is no despite PDD. or do you think the terran player just forgets to use it? :D
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Haha, they make terran great at start of each game (WoL, HotS, LotV). And enjoy the rage while only nerfing them after that. Problem terrans?
Well, they made ghost cloak bad. So It's probably not their master plan...
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the only good thing about terran in hots
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That makes the raven a new unit just like hydras and ultras. Not a new unit but significantly expanded role compared to WoL.
Counter to mass ravens? Vikings and Templars should still annihilate them. Zerg may have trouble as corruptors are barely any faster, and mutas instadie vs seeker missiles. High APM zerg will learn to split speed hydras and mutas. Fungal should still work vs ravens, and abducting into a group of hydras should work as well.
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That's exactly what ravens needed; 125 energy was way too much, it made it such a hit or miss spell that when you intend on using it, you have to cross your fingers and hope your opponent screws up.
Great and needed change IMO.
On September 08 2012 00:36 Piousflea wrote: That makes the raven a new unit just like hydras and ultras. Not a new unit but significantly expanded role compared to WoL.
Counter to mass ravens? Vikings and Templars should still annihilate them. Zerg may have trouble as corruptors are barely any faster, and mutas instadie vs seeker missiles. High APM zerg will learn to split speed hydras and mutas. Fungal should still work vs ravens, and abducting into a group of hydras should work as well.
I think NP on infestor would be excellent against ravens, given enough micro, you could NP one raven and HSM the rest of the Terran army, (seeing as the army will generally be mech, and therefore slow-moving).
Also HSM gives that great spectator aspect to the game of having explosions going off all over the place.
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Mass warhound + 2 Seeker per raven = GG?? That seems pretty deadly :O
But I'm glad they did decide to tweak the Raven in HotS.. Despite chnging their minds in WoL.
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The raven seeker missle energy change is FANTASTIC. Very excited about that.
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Why couldn't they make this change in WoL? Fucking christ.
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T_T Flying baneling Ravens. Spread out(so it takes more than 2 fungals to catch them all), right-click during or right before a battle, then mass HSM the Zerg deathball... Yeah, sounds fun.
/sarcasm
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On September 08 2012 01:53 acrimoneyius wrote: Why couldn't they make this change in WoL? Fucking christ.
Think about it as a little extra incentive to buy HotS.
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Hmm cool does this make toss need to split now? I mean multiple seeker missiles hitting a group of stalkers would hurt.
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On September 08 2012 02:11 Yaldi wrote: Hmm cool does this make toss need to split now? I mean multiple seeker missiles hitting a group of stalkers would hurt.
If it goes unscouted, yes. Otherwise Feedback still out-ranges the Seeker by 3.
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