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On September 28 2012 08:09 SarcasmMonster wrote:Show nested quote +We are concerned that we do something to offer new strategies to all 3 races. I tend to agree that Zerg seem to have new units that seem to be working well. I don't agree that Oracle, Mothership Core, Tempest, Widow Mine and Battle Hellion are doomed. I think that they can (with some play testing and some tuning and balance) find a home that makes them core to a variety of matchups.
I have had and seen both good experiences and bad experiences with Terran and Protoss units. I don't think we are close to done, but we are going to keep testing to see what we can do to buff and tune the Protoss and Terrans into a happier place than they are today.
More patches are on the way!=)
Thanks for the thread on this subject. It's something we talk about daily so your feedback here is appreciated. -Dustin Browder Very interesting. So DB is still not giving up on the design of battle-hellion and meching vs. protoss in general. Blizzard already designed 2 units to make it work and if it fails terran will get little of worth with this expansion. Especially since they scrapped one unit already.
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Buffing units is ok, giving t a unit to replace the war hound is great
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On October 03 2012 15:03 TheLunatic wrote: Buffing units is ok, giving t a unit to replace the war hound is great DB just posted that blizzard isn't hiding any units. It's safe to say that if warhound replacement is coming it will not happen soon.
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Disappointed with HOTS?
Rather fed up with Blizzard as a whole. HOTS is a marketing gag, nothing else. They want cash, and they don't care if customer's are not exactly satisfied (i.e Diablo 3 AH).
They know that we gonna buy it, because the amount of players on WoL battle.net will decrease...
I think WoL has some fundamental problems, like T lategame options versus P & Z...
P is kind of an overall a broken race . OP in lower leagues but pretty harmless in GM and pro tourneys. Take the top 20 on EU GM...how many toss can u count??? 3 at this moment!
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On October 04 2012 21:12 lukasdesign wrote: Disappointed with HOTS?
Rather fed up with Blizzard as a whole. HOTS is a marketing gag, nothing else. They want cash, and they don't care if customer's are not exactly satisfied (i.e Diablo 3 AH).
They know that we gonna buy it, because the amount of players on WoL battle.net will decrease...
I think WoL has some fundamental problems, like T lategame options versus P & Z...
P is kind of an overall a broken race . OP in lower leagues but pretty harmless in GM and pro tourneys. Take the top 20 on EU GM...how many toss can u count??? 3 at this moment!
I dunno man... looks pretty damn strong at the highest level...
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On October 04 2012 21:17 SarcasmMonster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 21:12 lukasdesign wrote: Disappointed with HOTS?
Rather fed up with Blizzard as a whole. HOTS is a marketing gag, nothing else. They want cash, and they don't care if customer's are not exactly satisfied (i.e Diablo 3 AH).
They know that we gonna buy it, because the amount of players on WoL battle.net will decrease...
I think WoL has some fundamental problems, like T lategame options versus P & Z...
P is kind of an overall a broken race . OP in lower leagues but pretty harmless in GM and pro tourneys. Take the top 20 on EU GM...how many toss can u count??? 3 at this moment!
I dunno man... looks pretty damn strong at the highest level...
Yeah aside from the few top Korean Terrans I don't see many of them doing well in tournaments, it's all about P and Z nowadays and we all know how boring most of those MU's (maybe except of ZvZ lately) are... The thing with top tier Protosses IMO is that most of them don't do a very good job at multitasking and harassing overall because they aren't really forced to, it's similar with Zerg... You can turtle and build a strong economy/infastructure while as Terran if you do likewise your army still will be much weaker (not only tech-wise, but also in size), if you don't pressure your opponent.
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Dammit give terran a unit to replace warhound already holy crap
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I'm pretty displeased at this moment. Battle Hellion looks like a good, solid addition but I don't like the strange tech requirements for it. Reaper changes seem *okay*. I don't like the Widow Mine in it's current form (would be cool if it was a mine-placer as someone suggested). If it stays this way then the Terran changes are quite underwhelming but I have confidence in Blizzard. I just hope they haven't committed to an internal release date yet and still have time to mess about.
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On October 05 2012 01:19 willoc wrote: I'm pretty displeased at this moment. Battle Hellion looks like a good, solid addition but I don't like the strange tech requirements for it. Reaper changes seem *okay*. I don't like the Widow Mine in it's current form (would be cool if it was a mine-placer as someone suggested). If it stays this way then the Terran changes are quite underwhelming but I have confidence in Blizzard. I just hope they haven't committed to an internal release date yet and still have time to mess about. Judging by DB's comments, this is just the start, we are nowhere near the final product.
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I probably won't buy HoTS unless it changes dramatically over the next couple of months.
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Like you said, I think that the main thing that's bad for terran so far is because they don't have enough supply efficient vs cost efficient units.
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not planning on buying unless serious changes to terran gameplay are made... i dont mind playing wol for free against less amount of players if the game play for terran is identical to HOTS
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