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On October 07 2012 12:09 M0RE wrote:OK, I can assure you (and anyone else) that there was no hidden requirement to get a key. It just turned out that you needed X games (X varied for each country) to get a key. The only "requirement" was that you did no fake matches, which means "poke a friend, open a game, close it within a minute", or "create a new account, chose a country with very less players and play 1+ match" (which made admin work pretty horrible the last days), those people were sorted out, no matter if or how many legit games there were. And someone who played 10 games compared to someone who played 100+ games was by no means cheating the system, it's just the way it turned out. To be honest, I wonder how many players complain about getting no key although they used fake matches or fake accounts to get a key and were busted but don't know it yet
And it wasn't actually that hard to see how many people, total, qualified for a key:
mysc2info.appspot.com
I wrote this webapp to count the players who had valid games played during the contest period, and then calculate out how many games were required if the minimum ever went over 1. It didn't. I'm guessing there are a bunch of people who thought they were being clever by making fake accounts to get multiple beta keys, but Blizzard is pretty strictly not letting keys go on Ebay or other open markets like has been the case in previous betas.
I'm guessing, when you hear complaints about people sitting in queue for 12 hours and not getting a game, that's where the 'obscure country' caveat is coming from, as obviously there are keys to go around.
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Is there an ETA on the beta or is it still 'probably' Friday?
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On October 08 2012 22:09 MidgetHumper wrote: Is there an ETA on the beta or is it still 'probably' Friday?
I got an email today saying thanks for submitting my info. I hope they come Friday. :D
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I got thx too I rly hope friday is going to be hots friday
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I got an email today saying thanks for submitting my info. I hope they come Friday. :D
I send my info last friday but I didn t recieve the same mail :/ *sic*
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On October 08 2012 22:35 WarSheep wrote:Show nested quote +I got an email today saying thanks for submitting my info. I hope they come Friday. :D I send my info last friday but I didn t recieve the same mail :/ *sic*
omg man no beta for you then. They might considered you as "intruder". T_T
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i got an email aswell, looking forward to friday so fucking much, also i have a day off school on monday so i guess ill know what ill be doing!
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On October 08 2012 23:53 DGB.Zerok wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2012 22:35 WarSheep wrote:I got an email today saying thanks for submitting my info. I hope they come Friday. :D I send my info last friday but I didn t recieve the same mail :/ *sic* omg man no beta for you then. They might considered you as "intruder". T_T
I got it finaly :D thx ESL
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On October 08 2012 22:09 MidgetHumper wrote: Is there an ETA on the beta or is it still 'probably' Friday? I gave Blizzard the list of Battle.net addresses a few hours ago, as far as we know they only add people to the beta on Fridays.
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On October 08 2012 21:57 Cheekio wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2012 12:09 M0RE wrote:OK, I can assure you (and anyone else) that there was no hidden requirement to get a key. It just turned out that you needed X games (X varied for each country) to get a key. The only "requirement" was that you did no fake matches, which means "poke a friend, open a game, close it within a minute", or "create a new account, chose a country with very less players and play 1+ match" (which made admin work pretty horrible the last days), those people were sorted out, no matter if or how many legit games there were. And someone who played 10 games compared to someone who played 100+ games was by no means cheating the system, it's just the way it turned out. To be honest, I wonder how many players complain about getting no key although they used fake matches or fake accounts to get a key and were busted but don't know it yet And it wasn't actually that hard to see how many people, total, qualified for a key: mysc2info.appspot.com I wrote this webapp to count the players who had valid games played during the contest period, and then calculate out how many games were required if the minimum ever went over 1. It didn't. I'm guessing there are a bunch of people who thought they were being clever by making fake accounts to get multiple beta keys, but Blizzard is pretty strictly not letting keys go on Ebay or other open markets like has been the case in previous betas. I'm guessing, when you hear complaints about people sitting in queue for 12 hours and not getting a game, that's where the 'obscure country' caveat is coming from, as obviously there are keys to go around. ~1500 people played a match in the period; the ESL is more than VERSUS
There was no secret threshold; I divided the number of players per country by the total number of players = X, the top X from each country won an invite. (= the invites are distributed by the number from each country, and given to the most active players from each country)
We did not say play X matches and you win a key because then 99% of people would have only played X matches and left, which is not what we wanted.
When I said earlier that at least (there were some with 1) everyone with at least 2 matches that didn't abuse the system, that was at the time the easy way of letting 99% of people know whether or not they had won before I had finished checking the list and sending the emails (the only definitive list was the people who were mailed)
Though I was mistaken at that time; not everyone with 2 matches got in, I'm sorry for that. There are still a lot of unclaimed invites, so we will be reminding those players, and then anyone still unclaimed by the end of the week we will see about distributing to the next most active players.
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On October 07 2012 14:22 TZerg wrote: I didn't got a key, I didn't plan to complain or anything, but now I'm curious, there are only two player from Mexico, me and another guy who played 12 games, I played 11, I assumed, that there was only one key for mexico, but now I want to make sure that I didn't got placed with the people that abused the sistem, because I didn't. I know I didn't played that much, but still, I would like to be sure that at least it wasn't because somebody thought that I abused the sistem. I wonder why you got no key too. Some official response plz?
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On October 09 2012 01:57 Cheerio wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2012 14:22 TZerg wrote: I didn't got a key, I didn't plan to complain or anything, but now I'm curious, there are only two player from Mexico, me and another guy who played 12 games, I played 11, I assumed, that there was only one key for mexico, but now I want to make sure that I didn't got placed with the people that abused the sistem, because I didn't. I know I didn't played that much, but still, I would like to be sure that at least it wasn't because somebody thought that I abused the sistem. I wonder why you got no key too. Some official response plz? Am messaging him to double check!
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On October 09 2012 02:14 th3rogue wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2012 01:57 Cheerio wrote:On October 07 2012 14:22 TZerg wrote: I didn't got a key, I didn't plan to complain or anything, but now I'm curious, there are only two player from Mexico, me and another guy who played 12 games, I played 11, I assumed, that there was only one key for mexico, but now I want to make sure that I didn't got placed with the people that abused the sistem, because I didn't. I know I didn't played that much, but still, I would like to be sure that at least it wasn't because somebody thought that I abused the sistem. I wonder why you got no key too. Some official response plz? Am messaging him to double check! thanks, hope you sort it out with a positive outcome.
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On October 09 2012 03:05 Cheerio wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2012 02:14 th3rogue wrote:On October 09 2012 01:57 Cheerio wrote:On October 07 2012 14:22 TZerg wrote: I didn't got a key, I didn't plan to complain or anything, but now I'm curious, there are only two player from Mexico, me and another guy who played 12 games, I played 11, I assumed, that there was only one key for mexico, but now I want to make sure that I didn't got placed with the people that abused the sistem, because I didn't. I know I didn't played that much, but still, I would like to be sure that at least it wasn't because somebody thought that I abused the sistem. I wonder why you got no key too. Some official response plz? Am messaging him to double check! thanks, hope you sort it out with a positive outcome.
Me too.
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On October 09 2012 01:57 Cheerio wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2012 14:22 TZerg wrote: I didn't got a key, I didn't plan to complain or anything, but now I'm curious, there are only two player from Mexico, me and another guy who played 12 games, I played 11, I assumed, that there was only one key for mexico, but now I want to make sure that I didn't got placed with the people that abused the sistem, because I didn't. I know I didn't played that much, but still, I would like to be sure that at least it wasn't because somebody thought that I abused the sistem. I wonder why you got no key too. Some official response plz?
Maybe because the other guy got one? Only two active players, I imagine only one gets the key.
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Come on, I think they should be given out based on skill, first waves masters next diamonds and ect. How does this not make sense?
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On October 09 2012 03:56 TheLunatic wrote: Come on, I think they should be given out based on skill, first waves masters next diamonds and ect. How does this not make sense? I think it is one of the Blizzard's requirements NOT to distribute keys based on skill since they want skill diversity in beta. Thus ESL has no choice here and the whole debate (should beta keys be distributed by skill) does not belong to this thread.
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Seems to be alot of people not happy with this or that... but all this aside, I would like to thank th3rouge and ESL for their effort to date. I for one am thankful that you have given us the chance at a beta and also had some fun in the process doing it.
Bring on the next wave a betas Blizzard!
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