On November 12 2012 12:41 Damiani wrote: You honestly think Florida,Bama,LSu or Georgia can beat USC or Oregon this year? Seriously?
USC? Really? The team with like a cumulative 25 scholarships missing?
dont forget their non-existent defense
Well from what I ve seen by watching some SEC games this year, you dont need much of defense to stop them. Pete Carroll used to always laugh and point out in his interviews that no SEC was willing to play them, even when USC was willing to come to their house. Arkansas made that mistake ones they were ranked 5 or 6 and USC wasn't even top 20 end result was a blow out by more than 40 points courtesy of John David Booty, USC's worst QB probably ever.
I don't ever recall USC being ranked outside of top 20 during Booty era nor Arkansas top 5 under Houston Nutt. You might want to double check that. But yea, USC had its glory days, but it seems some people just want to keep living in the past when it comes to USC.
I'll root for them nonetheless against ND and hopefully rematch against Oregon.
DENVER -- The BCS commissioners and Presidential Oversight Committee settled on a rotation of six bowls for the semifinals of the upcoming college football playoff system.
Also, the highest-rated champion from the "Group of Five" conferences -- the Big East, Conference USA, Mountain West, Sun Belt and Mid-American -- will receive an automatic berth in one of the six access bowls.
Earlier, ESPN reported the six-bowl rotation would be used, as well as an automatic bid awarded for the "Group of Five" conferences.
On Monday, the BCS commissioners and Presidential Oversight Committee reached an agreement on additional details to implement for college football's postseason.
The national semifinals will rotate through the six bowl games, setting up two playoff games and four major bowl games each season. The national title game will be bid out each year through a separate process similar to the Super Bowl.
The six games will include three "contract bowls" and three "host bowls." The spots in the contract bowls are reserved for teams that have deals with those bowls.
The contract bowls are: Rose (Pac-12 versus Big Ten), Sugar (SEC versus Big 12) and Orange (ACC versus Big Ten, SEC or Notre Dame).
While a Big Ten or SEC team could be selected to the Orange Bowl, the commissioners have agreed that when the Rose and/or Sugar bowls are hosting the semifinals, the Big Ten or SEC champion will not be placed in the Orange Bowl. Instead, it would have to be placed in one of the three other access bowls to increase the worth of that bowl, sources told ESPN.
Those remaining three access or "host" bowls still must be determined, but the leading candidates are the Fiesta, Cotton and Chick-fil-A, sources said.
With the "Group of Five" earning an automatic bid, that will lock up seven of the 12 berths in the six access bowls. The other five berths will be filled with at-large teams chosen, based on their final rankings, by a yet-to-be-formed selection committee.
Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby wasn't concerned that his league does not have a second contract bowl.
"I like our opportunities on the open market," Bowlsby said, noting the Big 12 has had at least two teams in the top 12 of the BCS rankings in 11 of the past 14 years.
The "Group of Five" conferences fought to get automatic access to the six major bowls. It was especially important for the Big East, which has had an automatic berth into the BCS bowls, but in the new system, the conference will not have guaranteed access unless its champion is the top-rated among the "Group of Five."
"I think that it's great," University of South Florida president Judy Genshaft said.
Added Big East commissioner Mike Aresco: "This is a better plan for us. We'll work out the revenue. We'll be fine."
As far as the "Group of Five" not getting the same access or revenue as the "Power Five" leagues (Big Ten, SEC, Pac-12, Big 12 and ACC), Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman said the Presidential Oversight Committee unanimously approved it.
"They did it with a smile on their faces," Perlman said. "They thought it's fair."
Sources said the group is close to finalizing the revenue distribution deal for the new playoff. The oversight committee gave the commissioners authority to finalize a media rights deal with ESPN. It is projected to be worth about $500 million a year over 12 years, Sports Business Journal reported.
The SEC, Big Ten, Big 12, ACC and Pac-12 will receive the biggest chunk of the new revenue. Each of those leagues will receive the same base amount of revenue, sources said. The remaining "Group of Five" leagues -- Big East, C-USA, MWC, Sun Belt and MAC -- will split a smaller amount among themselves. How the "Group of Five" will divide that revenue is still to be decided.
Each conference also will receive additional revenue for the number of teams it places in the national semifinals and six major bowl games. There also will be an academic component, in which 10 percent of each conference's revenue is set aside for academics.
Schools within each conference that meet the NCAA's APR minimum requirements will divide that revenue within its conference, Perlman said.
"Today's meeting is a unanimous ratification of what we announced last June in Washington, D.C.," said Virginia Tech president Charles Steger, the chairman of the Presidential Oversight Committee, in a release. "I'm delighted that additional details have been resolved and that everything is on track so fans can enjoy the postseason they've been asking for. College football, with its great regular season, is strong and popular -- it's about to get stronger and more popular."
Next up for the commissioners is naming the new structure, details of the selection committee, the rotation of the semifinals and determining the site for the first championship game on Jan. 12, 2015.
In September, sources told ESPN the site of the first title game has been limited to six bowls: Fiesta, Orange, Sugar, Rose, Cotton or Chick-fil-A.
He's fantastic, no argument. But there's never been a freshman Heisman trophy winner and if you look at his competition then I just don't see enough of an argument to diss the seniors and give it to the new guy.
I can definitely see him winning it in coming years, but this year? highly doubtful. In the two games that he lost (LSU and Florida) he passed for 0 touchdown and threw 3 picks combined, and his yards weren't spectacular either. Combine that with the fact that hes freshman, yea... not this year.
Eh guys just wanna say watch out for the Texas Am and Sam Houston game. Might be a little closer than a blowout that everyone is expecting. Sam Houston is a pretty good team in their division. Texas AM coming off a huge win might come out flat. Not saying they're gonna lose just think it's gonna be a lot closer than a 40pts blowout. I usually don't do this but if there's any bettors out there i highly advise you to play big on Florida st. -31 over Maryland. I just thought i wanna share a good hot tip. Maryland is playing a linebacker for the QB i heard.
On November 12 2012 12:41 Damiani wrote: You honestly think Florida,Bama,LSu or Georgia can beat USC or Oregon this year? Seriously?
USC? Really? The team with like a cumulative 25 scholarships missing?
dont forget their non-existent defense
Well from what I ve seen by watching some SEC games this year, you dont need much of defense to stop them. Pete Carroll used to always laugh and point out in his interviews that no SEC was willing to play them, even when USC was willing to come to their house. Arkansas made that mistake ones they were ranked 5 or 6 and USC wasn't even top 20 end result was a blow out by more than 40 points courtesy of John David Booty, USC's worst QB probably ever.
Just curious, are any of the teams in the PAC12 anywhere near as loaded as USC was in the early 2000s? No, none of them are even close, those Pete Carroll teams were absolutely loaded with NFL talent. I mean USC this year has some studs, but nothing like the 2004 team(Look at how long this list of players in the NFL from that team is). Sorry but USC was the PAC12 during the Pete Carroll years and they were damn good, it doesn't say anything about the rest of the conference though.
On November 18 2012 00:21 Damiani wrote: Eh guys just wanna say watch out for the Texas Am and Sam Houston game. Might be a little closer than a blowout that everyone is expecting. Sam Houston is a pretty good team in their division. Texas AM coming off a huge win might come out flat. Not saying they're gonna lose just think it's gonna be a lot closer than a 40pts blowout. I usually don't do this but if there's any bettors out there i highly advise you to play big on Florida st. -31 over Maryland. I just thought i wanna share a good hot tip. Maryland is playing a linebacker for the QB i heard.
Yah Maryland has no actually QBs on the roster, they are on their fifth string, almost as bad as the AIRBHG.
On November 12 2012 12:41 Damiani wrote: You honestly think Florida,Bama,LSu or Georgia can beat USC or Oregon this year? Seriously?
USC? Really? The team with like a cumulative 25 scholarships missing?
dont forget their non-existent defense
Well from what I ve seen by watching some SEC games this year, you dont need much of defense to stop them. Pete Carroll used to always laugh and point out in his interviews that no SEC was willing to play them, even when USC was willing to come to their house. Arkansas made that mistake ones they were ranked 5 or 6 and USC wasn't even top 20 end result was a blow out by more than 40 points courtesy of John David Booty, USC's worst QB probably ever.
Just curious, are any of the teams in the PAC12 anywhere near as loaded as USC was in the early 2000s? No, none of them are even close, those Pete Carroll teams were absolutely loaded with NFL talent. I mean USC this year has some studs, but nothing like the 2004 team(Look at how long this list of players in the NFL from that team is). Sorry but USC was the PAC12 during the Pete Carroll years and they were damn good, it doesn't say anything about the rest of the conference though.
On November 18 2012 00:21 Damiani wrote: Eh guys just wanna say watch out for the Texas Am and Sam Houston game. Might be a little closer than a blowout that everyone is expecting. Sam Houston is a pretty good team in their division. Texas AM coming off a huge win might come out flat. Not saying they're gonna lose just think it's gonna be a lot closer than a 40pts blowout. I usually don't do this but if there's any bettors out there i highly advise you to play big on Florida st. -31 over Maryland. I just thought i wanna share a good hot tip. Maryland is playing a linebacker for the QB i heard.
Yah Maryland has no actually QBs on the roster, they are on their fifth string, almost as bad as the AIRBHG.
Umm.. You might wanna check out Cal Bears in 2004. On offense alone : Aaron Rodgers, Marshawn Lynch, Javid Best (He was a freak at Cal more explosive than LaMichael James or Kenjon imo) J.J Arrington, Justin Forsett, Craig Stevens. Did not bother mentioning O-Line and Defensive players but there were a few of them too. Cal finished the season 10-2 that year. Pac-12 since 2000: 2000: Washington #3 (11-1 Won Rose Bowl) Oregon State #4 (11-1 Won Fiesta Bowl) Oregon #7 (10-2) 2001: Oregon finished #2 (11-1 record beat #3 Colorado in the Fiesta Bowl.) Washington St. #10 (10-2) Stanford #16 (9-3) 2002: Washington State #10 (10-2 Rose Bowl Lost) USC #4 2003: USC #1 (12-1) Washington State #9 (10-2) 2004: USC #1 (12-0) Cal #9 (10-2) 2005: USC #2 (11-1) Oregon #9 (10-2) UCLA #16 (10-2) 2006: USC #4 (10-2) Cal #14 (10-3) 2007: USC #3 (11-2) Arizona State #16 (10-3) 2008: USC #3 (12-1) Oregon #10 (10-3) Oregon St.#19 (9-4) 2009: Oregon #11 (10-3) 2010: Oregon #3 (12-1) Stanford #4 (12-1)
Yea it was pretty much the Pete Carrol Era. But USC without Pete Carrol was and is pretty bad. Other teams stepped up big time too in 2000 + 2001 + 2002 + 2009 + 2010. Sorry i got lazy after 2002. ;/
On November 18 2012 00:42 GTR wrote: I normally don't bet on football games, but I decided to put $10 on the Florida State-Maryland game. Will cry if they don't cover the spread.
I hope the bet wasn't on Maryland. But I don't understand how the payout would be any gain if you bet on FSU :D
Man why did ESPN turn ESPN 3 into such shit this year. I mean complete and utter shit. The only game I've wanted to watch all season on it was UL Monroe versus UL Lafayette. Last season every single weekend we all sat in IRC and watched football together. It was fantastic. This year, every single game has a blackout for some region and it's almost always the goddamn region that wants to watch it. It's 1 step forward 2 steps back set over the course of two years
On November 18 2012 00:42 GTR wrote: I normally don't bet on football games, but I decided to put $10 on the Florida State-Maryland game. Will cry if they don't cover the spread.
I hope the bet wasn't on Maryland. But I don't understand how the payout would be any gain if you bet on FSU :D
Man why did ESPN turn ESPN 3 into such shit this year. I mean complete and utter shit. The only game I've wanted to watch all season on it was UL Monroe versus UL Lafayette. Last season every single weekend we all sat in IRC and watched football together. It was fantastic. This year, every single game has a blackout for some region and it's almost always the goddamn region that wants to watch it. It's 1 step forward 2 steps back set over the course of two years
I know that feeling, I think it's because they want more companies to pick up the Watch ESPN app thingy so they can make more money than they already do. Real travesty that we, the fans, are the ones who are really hurt by all of this. Just another one of a million things that makes me hate ESPN more day by day.
They should really disallow games against non-FBS foes. The SEC is feasting (although not looking very good while doing it, right South Carolina?) on cupcakes and the wins alone affect bowl placements and rankings. The Big 12 has been doing it for some time as well, and now all conferences even the Pac 12 are joining in on the stat-padding. Bill Snyder is correct that all strong OOC opponents do is risk your national championship (or BCS) chances. As we've seen from the SEC during their stretch of titles, scheduling cupcakes does not affect conference (or individual team) public perception. So why risk it when the conference can make millions sending 9 teams to bowl games every year, instead of say 6 as a result of playing actual quality opponents?
Money triumphs over all, but in a perfect world, deep in November nearing the end of the season where many teams are on crunch time, we should not see SC vs Wofford. And even in September, we should not see Washington vs Portland State.
Think about it: since every conference is has bottom-feeders and middling teams with if you're lucky 2 or 3 elites, the amount of interesting conference games isn't all that high as we'd like. That's fine. But then when teams schedule 2,3,4 cupcakes and even mixing in some non-FBS games, that's basically approaching a third of all games that will be garbage games, without the amount of bad conference games accounted for yet. Worse scheduling just makes the season, in terms of game quality and not ESPN drama, increasingly uninteresting, all for the sake of money. As I fan I just want entertainment. A storyline shouldn't be how average SC looked against Wofford; it should be something like Texas vs LSU is into its third overtime, or Boise State beats Stanford.
I feel that in mere years, we may never see a OOC game between ranked opponents... until bowl season.
So anyway... Huskies won, Cougars lost. I never get tired of saying that. Gogo Mike Leach!
On November 18 2012 09:51 MountainDewJunkie wrote: They should really disallow games against non-FBS foes. The SEC is feasting (although not looking very good while doing it, right South Carolina?) on cupcakes and the wins alone affect bowl placements and rankings. The Big 12 has been doing it for some time as well, and now all conferences even the Pac 12 are joining in on the stat-padding. Bill Snyder is correct that all strong OOC opponents do is risk your national championship (or BCS) chances. As we've seen from the SEC during their stretch of titles, scheduling cupcakes does not affect conference (or individual team) public perception. So why risk it when the conference can make millions sending 9 teams to bowl games every year, instead of say 6 as a result of playing actual quality opponents?
Money triumphs over all, but in a perfect world, deep in November nearing the end of the season where many teams are on crunch time, we should not see SC vs Wofford. And even in September, we should not see Washington vs Portland State.
Think about it: since every conference is has bottom-feeders and middling teams with if you're lucky 2 or 3 elites, the amount of interesting conference games isn't all that high as we'd like. That's fine. But then when teams schedule 2,3,4 cupcakes and even mixing in some non-FBS games, that's basically approaching a third of all games that will be garbage games, without the amount of bad conference games accounted for yet. Worse scheduling just makes the season, in terms of game quality and not ESPN drama, increasingly uninteresting, all for the sake of money. As I fan I just want entertainment. A storyline shouldn't be how average SC looked against Wofford; it should be something like Texas vs LSU is into its third overtime, or Boise State beats Stanford.
I feel that in mere years, we may never see a OOC game between ranked opponents... until bowl season.
So anyway... Huskies won, Cougars lost. I never get tired of saying that. Gogo Mike Leach!
This is why i have mad respect for Notre Dame and USC. You'll never see them schedule some Div2a teams in the OOC games. NEVER.
On November 18 2012 11:15 GTR wrote: Wake up and see Florida State didn't cover the spread. Read it was because they were running down the clock and lost the ball for a TD.
brb crying.
Oh god it was such an easy pick. Losing like that is so gut wrenching. They were up 27-0 by halftime. Sorry GTR.