Hacker get HoN password database, posts on reddit - Page 2
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Thienan567
United States670 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On December 17 2012 23:40 TheRPGAddict wrote: They didn't even both to hash the passwords? What a joke. That wouldn't make them that much more secure, given the power of gpgpu the only secure way to store passwords and data is to break it up and store it in 2 or more locations with the encryption, all encrypting it does is delay a guy from reading the data he got off a dump or w.e Givens hons past problems with server loads and database problems in the past i doubt they wanted to spare a few cycles into doing that work. | ||
Martijn
Netherlands1219 Posts
On December 17 2012 23:10 zeru wrote: I have a hard time believing that S2 doesn't hash passwords. link? Because there's surely no databases that allow you to do reverse md5 look-ups :/ Edit: So I've never played HoN, but I still bought it for you know supporting competitive gaming etc. I've managed to figure out what my password was on there and I'll have to see if I'm actually using it elsewhere. My concern right now though is that even if I change my password on HoN, I have 0 confidence it'll stay secure.. So now what? | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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zeru
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noD
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
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Martijn
Netherlands1219 Posts
On December 17 2012 23:47 zeru wrote: Was already deleted when i tried to check back when i posted. guess i was too slow. anyway, no hashing would be an unbelievable failure. Kidding me? why would anyone in the world still use md5? Swing and a miss on the point made there. Point was, for every hash there's a reverse look-up table. Apparently they went to the trouble of salts and that wasn't enough either. So arguing about unencrypted vs encrypted password has little to no relevance seeming as shown encrypted passwords can be broken all the same, it's just a matter of time. On December 17 2012 23:48 noD wrote: What is the link to the list ? I wanna know if my name is there Please don't be part of the problem and make the list accessible to more people. If people really want them, they can go to the effort of finding it themselves. If you have a HoN account, assume your name is on there -_- | ||
AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
On December 17 2012 23:46 Martijn wrote: Because there's surely no databases that allow you to do reverse md5 look-ups :/ Edit: So I've never played HoN, but I still bought it for you know supporting competitive gaming etc. I've managed to figure out what my password was on there and I'll have to see if I'm actually using it elsewhere. My concern right now though is that even if I change my password on HoN, I have 0 confidence it'll stay secure.. So now what? Don't change your Hon password right now... Change your pw on every other site where you use a similar pw. After S2 officially fixed it change your hon password to something that is not related to any other pw you have. | ||
Martijn
Netherlands1219 Posts
On December 17 2012 23:54 AntiGrav1ty wrote: Don't change your Hon password right now... Change your pw on every other site where you use a similar pw. After S2 officially fixed it change your hon password to something that is not related to any other pw you have. That's what I figured, what a hassle though. I've never even played the game >_> | ||
Boblion
France8043 Posts
On December 17 2012 23:45 Thienan567 wrote: To those of you who think HoN is the best, why do you think so? Character design? Items? LoL and Dota look awful and are slower. | ||
Alur
Denmark3899 Posts
On December 17 2012 23:45 Thienan567 wrote: To those of you who think HoN is the best, why do you think so? Character design? Items? Not saying I think HoN is better, but the main argument is usually; the faster pace of the game and the smooth engine. HoN does have other distinguishing factors, but it say the above mentioned ones are the most significant ones. It's quite a shame for HoN-fans that S2 has proven to be incompetent in certain areas. | ||
zeru
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noD
2230 Posts
Please don't be part of the problem and make the list accessible to more people. If people really want them, they can go to the effort of finding it themselves. If you have a HoN account, assume your name is on there -_- well I just want to know if my password is the same of the other games (for email and main accounts I use other ... Do you have the list so you could check if my name is there ? | ||
dapierow
Serbia1316 Posts
On December 17 2012 23:45 Thienan567 wrote: To those of you who think HoN is the best, why do you think so? Character design? Items? Non existence of unit-response delay Faster action and movment of heroes (faster turnrate and speed) : The HoN engine encourages speed. While the speed at which things happen can be difficult to follow at first, experienced players and viewers can easily decipher the action and comprehend what’s happening in almost any scenario. Furthermore, a player with exceptional reflexes can often correct a gameplay mistake the moment it occurs thanks to the fast paced HoN engine. for example you can use shift to queue abilities ie if you push q + Shift-W + Shift+E all three abilities will happen almost instantaniously. Taunting Opponents The non-forgiving nature, if you fuck up expect to pay for it. | ||
Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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plated.rawr
Norway1675 Posts
On December 17 2012 22:43 dapierow wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/HeroesofNewerth/comments/14zj2p/i_am_the_guy_who_hacked_hon/ Apparently according to him, he hacked the database on Friday and since S2 did nothing about it he starting hacking streamer accounts to get recognition. If this is true I will probably end up quitting hon since this is a pretty low blow for the company to only make a statement AFTER he started gloating about it. He verified it by posting his name on the Main S2 caster's Twitter (he had the same passwrod for his twitter and Hon I guess) Edit: Yes S2 Did hash the passwords but the hacker got the individual Salts as well(which quoted by himself were short and ineffective) To be honest, I'm kinda split on the entire company making statement-thing. On one hand, the company should always let its userbase know when major security breaches happens. On the other, the guy was obviously partly motivated by attention and e-fame - statements without a fix would only feed into this purpose. I dunno - as long as no critical information (credit cards, personal info) was aquired, no real harm has been done, so I don't mind S2 not giving much statement. At the same time, I like transparency, but I also hate giving trolls the attention that they want. Shame it happened, really I can't help but feel this was done by some LOL or DOTA-favoring troll in an attempt at further hurting HON as a competitor to the two. I imagine they're actually enjoying this news, which actually reflects really bad on their communities. Then again, all T-BAG-style games have always had terrible communities. | ||
inermis
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azLaR
Canada9 Posts
Comparing it to League is a little different. League is a completely different game in the same genre. League is more 'team-based' and HoN is more 'individual-based'. Of course, both respective games have both incorporated but that's what I feel is dominant. For example in League, team-based play is very important because one champion, no matter how buff, can not take out a whole team. League is very action oriented because of how the heroes work (more skills can be spammed, less to do during laning phase (no denies). In HoN, one champion can solo a team of 5 given the right items. There tends to be more farming because items are extremely vital in this game. There is more emphasis during laning phase (creep kill/denies) and 'generally' less action among heroes. Town Portals (I think they're called that; TPs) are what make this game extremely fast pace. At anytime, when you're ganking a champion by a town, they can receive backup as quick as in 3 seconds. | ||
Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
Now that´s what I call half assed. | ||
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