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On September 17 2014 04:44 Faefae wrote: Awsome for the fans! Not so much for the progamers
Progamers are all on vacation with no wcs events in December. And no one is forcing tournaments to use steps of war or whatever gets voted. So frankly, who cares what progamers think.
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Now a serious list:
blistering sands jungle basin scrap station akilon waste daybreak cloud kingdom metropolis
3 "weird" maps from the beginning of wol would be fun to play on and very interesting to see how they would play out. And if you want to play only boring standard games you can just veto them so everyone will be happy. In addition to them there are 4 solid maps which will make the mappool a nice mix between "standard" and "nonstandard" maps.
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On September 17 2014 04:47 MstrJinbo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 04:44 Faefae wrote: Awsome for the fans! Not so much for the progamers Progamers are all on vacation with no wcs events in December. And no one is forcing tournaments to use steps of war or whatever gets voted. So frankly, who cares what progamers think. I mean, they are training on ladder, and there'll be a lot of tourneys in november, as usual !
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y nobody vote for shattered temple.
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OK, I was enthusiastic when I first read it, now I'm just afraid. Do people really wish they played on Jungle Basin instead of Overgrowth ? Choose Blistering Sands over Korhal Compound or Frost, two maps I barely ever saw on the wishlists ? I don't understand. What's the point of picking up "fun" maps (I don't think they'd be fun at all) that will get vetoed by everyone once people realize 2 rax, proxy reapers or immortal all-ins are unstoppable on them or that have no viable third ? I'm mesmerized by this nonsense.
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Blistering Sands Steppes of War Jungle Basin Scrap Station Metalopolis
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Tal Darim Altar Shakuras Plateau Daybreak Whirlwind Antigua Shipyard Shattered Temple For my last map I'll go really old...Tbh I want to put Scrap Station, I was always a fan although I felt like one of the few, but it was so different to most other bland maps. However the thought of oracles, speedyvacs and regen mutas scares the crap out of me, so I'll go.. Blistering sands for the Lols
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What was the worst map in history for Terran in TvP? I nominate that one.
Also, I kinda loved Dual Sight. It just looked so damn cool.
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Cloud kingdom! Antiga shipyards! Shakuras plateau!
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It will be the best of times to ladder. It will be the worst of times to ladder.
It will be the age of nostalgia. It will be the age of cheese.
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Ever wonder how Xel’Naga Caverns would play out in Heart of the Swarm?
Nightmares...
But retro maps would be pretty interesting, even if they're super imbalanced.
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What I'm hoping for is redesigned Cloud Kingdom. I love that map so much.
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Taldarim, my best map by far And metropolis :D
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On September 17 2014 03:13 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 03:11 Teoita wrote:On September 17 2014 03:10 brickrd wrote:On September 17 2014 03:08 Sirrush wrote: So all pro players are just completely fucked if they want to practice on the ladder during the off-season? The off-season which is going to be super important for practice, considering EVERYONE has to requalify for WCS?
This is going to suck... why? they will rebalance the maps as necessary. after daedalus point they would be out of their minds not to. i would be truly shocked if they didnt Nothing about Xel naga caverns, Metalopolis, or Steppes of War can be balanced. They are just not competitive maps. you really think people will trollvote noncompetitive maps into the ladder?
Never underestimate how stupid people are. Just see some of the leaders who were chosen by vote. Blizzard will have to monitor the prelist very carefully if we don't want to end up with a Daedalus Point / Steppes of War slugfest. A lot of posts I read here sound like "Duh Blistering Sands again would be so fun, ha ha ha so much nostalgia" without any sensible thought on an actual game on the map.
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On September 17 2014 04:59 eviltomahawk wrote: It will be the best of times to ladder. It will be the worst of times to ladder.
It will be the age of nostalgia. It will be the age of cheese.
I can still... how do you Terrans say it... "Throw down with the best of them!"
So yeah, bring on the cheese
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On September 17 2014 05:05 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 03:13 brickrd wrote:On September 17 2014 03:11 Teoita wrote:On September 17 2014 03:10 brickrd wrote:On September 17 2014 03:08 Sirrush wrote: So all pro players are just completely fucked if they want to practice on the ladder during the off-season? The off-season which is going to be super important for practice, considering EVERYONE has to requalify for WCS?
This is going to suck... why? they will rebalance the maps as necessary. after daedalus point they would be out of their minds not to. i would be truly shocked if they didnt Nothing about Xel naga caverns, Metalopolis, or Steppes of War can be balanced. They are just not competitive maps. you really think people will trollvote noncompetitive maps into the ladder? Never underestimate how stupid people are. Just see some of the leaders they chose by vote. Blizzard will have to monitor the prelist very carefully if we don't want to end up with a Daedalus Point / Steppes of War slugfest. A lot of posts I read here sound like "Duh Blistering Sands again would be so fun, ha ha ha so much nostalgia" without any sensible thought on an actual game on the map.
Hm, what if they just did the #dreampool for the Unranked Ladder?
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On September 17 2014 05:08 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 05:05 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 17 2014 03:13 brickrd wrote:On September 17 2014 03:11 Teoita wrote:On September 17 2014 03:10 brickrd wrote:On September 17 2014 03:08 Sirrush wrote: So all pro players are just completely fucked if they want to practice on the ladder during the off-season? The off-season which is going to be super important for practice, considering EVERYONE has to requalify for WCS?
This is going to suck... why? they will rebalance the maps as necessary. after daedalus point they would be out of their minds not to. i would be truly shocked if they didnt Nothing about Xel naga caverns, Metalopolis, or Steppes of War can be balanced. They are just not competitive maps. you really think people will trollvote noncompetitive maps into the ladder? Never underestimate how stupid people are. Just see some of the leaders they chose by vote. Blizzard will have to monitor the prelist very carefully if we don't want to end up with a Daedalus Point / Steppes of War slugfest. A lot of posts I read here sound like "Duh Blistering Sands again would be so fun, ha ha ha so much nostalgia" without any sensible thought on an actual game on the map. Hm, what if they just did the #dreampool for the Unranked Ladder?
That's not what is being suggested. If they're going full #dreampool (or is it #nightmarepool ?), yeah they should definitely consider using it only for unranked ladder. Otherwise, careful preselection and some tweaks on the maps will be really needed if they want to offer an interesting and fair competitive gaming environment for the ladder, which is kinda what ladder is about. They have to care about the viability of the maps we'll play on for roughly two months.
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On September 17 2014 05:05 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 03:13 brickrd wrote:On September 17 2014 03:11 Teoita wrote:On September 17 2014 03:10 brickrd wrote:On September 17 2014 03:08 Sirrush wrote: So all pro players are just completely fucked if they want to practice on the ladder during the off-season? The off-season which is going to be super important for practice, considering EVERYONE has to requalify for WCS?
This is going to suck... why? they will rebalance the maps as necessary. after daedalus point they would be out of their minds not to. i would be truly shocked if they didnt Nothing about Xel naga caverns, Metalopolis, or Steppes of War can be balanced. They are just not competitive maps. you really think people will trollvote noncompetitive maps into the ladder? Never underestimate how stupid people are. Just see some of the leaders who were chosen by vote. Blizzard will have to monitor the prelist very carefully if we don't want to end up with a Daedalus Point / Steppes of War slugfest. A lot of posts I read here sound like "Duh Blistering Sands again would be so fun, ha ha ha so much nostalgia" without any sensible thought on an actual game on the map. I am pretty sure the ones that want steppes/daedalus/blistering will know how their games will play out, if the maps get selected. They want the slugfest you mentioned.
But you are correct, Blizzard will probably remove some maps that just won't be viable. I suspect Steppes won't be there. Its like fighting in an elevator.
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On September 17 2014 05:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 05:08 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On September 17 2014 05:05 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 17 2014 03:13 brickrd wrote:On September 17 2014 03:11 Teoita wrote:On September 17 2014 03:10 brickrd wrote:On September 17 2014 03:08 Sirrush wrote: So all pro players are just completely fucked if they want to practice on the ladder during the off-season? The off-season which is going to be super important for practice, considering EVERYONE has to requalify for WCS?
This is going to suck... why? they will rebalance the maps as necessary. after daedalus point they would be out of their minds not to. i would be truly shocked if they didnt Nothing about Xel naga caverns, Metalopolis, or Steppes of War can be balanced. They are just not competitive maps. you really think people will trollvote noncompetitive maps into the ladder? Never underestimate how stupid people are. Just see some of the leaders they chose by vote. Blizzard will have to monitor the prelist very carefully if we don't want to end up with a Daedalus Point / Steppes of War slugfest. A lot of posts I read here sound like "Duh Blistering Sands again would be so fun, ha ha ha so much nostalgia" without any sensible thought on an actual game on the map. Hm, what if they just did the #dreampool for the Unranked Ladder? That's not what is being suggested. If they're going full #dreampool, yeah they should definitely consider using it only for unranked ladder. Otherwise, careful preselection and some tweaks on the maps will be really needed if they want to offer an interesting and fair competitive gaming environment for the ladder, which is kinda what ladder is about.
Honestly, I would love to go full #dreampool for Unranked Ladder. Just bring back all the fucking classics and have everyone revel in the hilariously fun misery that were previous ladder maps haha. It could be a lot of fun from time to time during a normal ladder season.
No one uses unranked play for serious practice anyway, so it seems like a perfect fit.
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