TLDR: First two episodes kind of sucked, great premise for a show though gonna give it sometime to develop might turn out good.
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Necro)Phagist(
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TLDR: First two episodes kind of sucked, great premise for a show though gonna give it sometime to develop might turn out good. | ||
Scarecrow
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6509 Posts
On October 01 2014 13:35 Scarecrow wrote: I usually think it's the opposite. Shows start out strong with a plan and high quality pilot then fall apart later. Starting off poorly, riding an established name, with shitty writing doesn't bode well. They should already have a lot of this worked out, not be figuring it out on the go. Really? That's interesting, normally I have to trudge through the first few episodes of a show. They have a plan and idea but for the most part their plans rarely ever seem to turn out well on screen and they have to tweak the character's and how they write for them. Or even just having to introduce and build up the characters in the first episodes can make the show start off slow. Personally I've always found that shows tend to suck in the first few episodes before getting good later in the season. | ||
Serejai
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I got literally 60 seconds into the first episode and I don't think I can go any further. Catwoman is walking down the street and she steals a half gallon of milk from some lady by cutting open her grocery bag. For some reason this lady doesn't realize that one of the two jugs of milk is missing from the ground, even though it's plain as day. So Catwoman continues walking down the street with a jug of milk sticking out of her... jugs of milk (TITTIES), robs another guy, and escapes. She goes into an alley and sits down a bowl, then pours some milk in it for stray cats. So, what's my problem with the show at this point? CATWOMAN JUST STOLE A BRAND FUCKING NEW HALF GALLON OF MILK BUT WHEN SHE POURS IT FOR THE CATS THERE'S ONLY 10% OF IT LEFT ALREADY. WHERE THE FUCK DID ALL OF THE MILK GO? I MEAN JESUS CHRIST IS IT TOO HARD TO ASK THE DIRECTOR TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE FUCKING SCENES IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE CONTINUITY? And this is completely unrelated but has anyone watched Transformers: Age of Extinction? There's a scene near the end of that where Mark Wahlberg is COMPLETELY ALONE hiding behind a rock. THERE ARE NO OTHER HUMANS ANYWHERE NEAR HIM. The rock gets shot and suddenly a second person appears for one 2-3 second scene and gets blown up right next to Mark. The worst part? THAT SECOND PERSON WAS ALSO MARK. How on earth do you even fuck up a shot that badly? I've lost all faith in comic or cartoon movies because quality is the exception, not the norm. | ||
Serejai
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ThomasjServo
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CW class show then? As expected I suppose. I've been holding off because there is some eye candy on the show my GF is interested in, but I guess you could call this one a mile away. | ||
giftdgecko
United States2126 Posts
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0x64
Finland4395 Posts
On October 01 2014 23:44 Serejai wrote: What kind of low budget shit is this? I thought it would be pretty well done but apparently that isn't the case. I got literally 60 seconds into the first episode and I don't think I can go any further. Catwoman is walking down the street and she steals a half gallon of milk from some lady by cutting open her grocery bag. For some reason this lady doesn't realize that one of the two jugs of milk is missing from the ground, even though it's plain as day. So Catwoman continues walking down the street with a jug of milk sticking out of her... jugs of milk (TITTIES), robs another guy, and escapes. She goes into an alley and sits down a bowl, then pours some milk in it for stray cats. So, what's my problem with the show at this point? CATWOMAN JUST STOLE A BRAND FUCKING NEW HALF GALLON OF MILK BUT WHEN SHE POURS IT FOR THE CATS THERE'S ONLY 10% OF IT LEFT ALREADY. WHERE THE FUCK DID ALL OF THE MILK GO? I MEAN JESUS CHRIST IS IT TOO HARD TO ASK THE DIRECTOR TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE FUCKING SCENES IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE CONTINUITY? And this is completely unrelated but has anyone watched Transformers: Age of Extinction? There's a scene near the end of that where Mark Wahlberg is COMPLETELY ALONE hiding behind a rock. THERE ARE NO OTHER HUMANS ANYWHERE NEAR HIM. The rock gets shot and suddenly a second person appears for one 2-3 second scene and gets blown up right next to Mark. The worst part? THAT SECOND PERSON WAS ALSO MARK. How on earth do you even fuck up a shot that badly? I've lost all faith in comic or cartoon movies because quality is the exception, not the norm. Well, you got to work a bit on your understanding skills. The old jug of milk was almost finished so she stole a new one, but still gave milk from the old one. | ||
Serejai
6007 Posts
On October 02 2014 04:40 0x64 wrote: Well, you got to work a bit on your understanding skills. The old jug of milk was almost finished so she stole a new one, but still gave milk from the old one. But that's not at all what happens. In the scene before she pours the milk she still has the stolen brand-new milk in her jacket. She takes that out of her jacket and the very next shot shows a nearly-empty, different container of milk. You can't just make up a story like "it was an old container of milk". Seems my "understanding skills" are just fine; the director fucked up | ||
NPF
Canada1635 Posts
On October 02 2014 06:39 Serejai wrote: But that's not at all what happens. In the scene before she pours the milk she still has the stolen brand-new milk in her jacket. She takes that out of her jacket and the very next shot shows a nearly-empty, different container of milk. You can't just make up a story like "it was an old container of milk". Seems my "understanding skills" are just fine; the director fucked up One possibility is that they did the scene a dozen times and the one that worked the jug was almost empty and they didn't want a new jug each time, or it wasn't the first cat she fed that night... I'm ambivalent about the show, but I'll watch it till if I get bored. Major Crimes is a joke, but I get the broken system where no one cares. | ||
Serejai
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Catwoman looks great. I think the girl they picked to play her does very well, although I'm not sure I like the idea of 13 year old Catwoman in the first place but that's for another post. The Riddler seems out of place. Don't know why. The Penguin is just awful. Instead of being a genius martial artist it's some pimply little kid that has the intelligence of a rock. It may as well be a completely new character because it has nothing at all in common with the actual Penguin. The detective aspect of the show is extremely weak, and the show itself is riddled with bad acting. Gotham looks great; much better than in the Bale movies. | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
Still I think it's a very difficult concept to pull off even with the best writers and actors. How old are Penguin, Scarecrow, the Riddler and Zsasz going to be by the time Bruce Wayne is Batman? Bruce looks about 10 years old now, and they all have to be in their 20's. And the other key problem is that if Gordon was capable of dealing with any of these villains there wouldn't be a need for a Batman. It's also curious that the last episode mentioned Dollmaker, when the new 52 version of his origin would have been perfect for this show. That origin being: + Show Spoiler + As a child, Barton Mathis went on several "hunting trips" with his father Wesley. During these hunts, Barton watched as his father killed people and then cannibalized them. He would also witness his father being shot down by a young cop named James Gordon. After spending only a year in foster care, Barton disappeared for years before he resurfaced as the criminal Dollmaker. His mask is partially made of skin from his deceased father.[ I want the show to be good, just don't think it is so far. | ||
M4nkind
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States21792 Posts
On October 01 2014 23:44 Serejai wrote: What kind of low budget shit is this? I thought it would be pretty well done but apparently that isn't the case. I got literally 60 seconds into the first episode and I don't think I can go any further. Catwoman is walking down the street and she steals a half gallon of milk from some lady by cutting open her grocery bag. For some reason this lady doesn't realize that one of the two jugs of milk is missing from the ground, even though it's plain as day. So Catwoman continues walking down the street with a jug of milk sticking out of her... jugs of milk (TITTIES), robs another guy, and escapes. She goes into an alley and sits down a bowl, then pours some milk in it for stray cats. So, what's my problem with the show at this point? CATWOMAN JUST STOLE A BRAND FUCKING NEW HALF GALLON OF MILK BUT WHEN SHE POURS IT FOR THE CATS THERE'S ONLY 10% OF IT LEFT ALREADY. WHERE THE FUCK DID ALL OF THE MILK GO? I MEAN JESUS CHRIST IS IT TOO HARD TO ASK THE DIRECTOR TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE FUCKING SCENES IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE CONTINUITY? And this is completely unrelated but has anyone watched Transformers: Age of Extinction? There's a scene near the end of that where Mark Wahlberg is COMPLETELY ALONE hiding behind a rock. THERE ARE NO OTHER HUMANS ANYWHERE NEAR HIM. The rock gets shot and suddenly a second person appears for one 2-3 second scene and gets blown up right next to Mark. The worst part? THAT SECOND PERSON WAS ALSO MARK. How on earth do you even fuck up a shot that badly? I've lost all faith in comic or cartoon movies because quality is the exception, not the norm. I just watched the new transformers movie last night and thought I smoked too much when I noticed that. Glad I wasn't just trippin. As for Gotham The Riddler is again my favorite character. | ||
Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On October 02 2014 11:40 Serejai wrote: Some things about the show thus far: Catwoman looks great. I think the girl they picked to play her does very well, although I'm not sure I like the idea of 13 year old Catwoman in the first place but that's for another post. The Riddler seems out of place. Don't know why. The Penguin is just awful. Instead of being a genius martial artist it's some pimply little kid that has the intelligence of a rock. It may as well be a completely new character because it has nothing at all in common with the actual Penguin. The detective aspect of the show is extremely weak, and the show itself is riddled with bad acting. Gotham looks great; much better than in the Bale movies. The problem is that you have to make a choice when it comes to the iconic villains of batman, either they are evil teenagers (and let's face it that would be absolutely awful, especially with child actors) or they are young adults who for some reason are not yet the threats they are when batman is around. I'm actually glad the show took the second option, although both the acting, the character designs (Alfred and the corrupt/bad tempered/stupid detective being the worst for me) and the storytelling could be improved greatly. Personally, I'm giving the show two more episodes to improve. | ||
Pandemona
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0x64
Finland4395 Posts
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Serejai
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BUT WAIT! Suddenly a single balloon randomly floats up from the ground... Continuity. HOW DO I DO IT? | ||
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