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A team of explorers travel through a wormhole in an attempt to find a potentially habitable planet that will sustain humanity.
- IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0816692/)
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
Poster: Trailer: Plot: A team of explorers travel through a wormhole in an attempt to find a potentially habitable planet that will sustain humanity. - IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0816692/) | ||
Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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riotjune
United States3357 Posts
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polgas
Canada1719 Posts
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
I am a big fan of chris so i watched it on the 2nd day when it came out. Gravity maybe was spectacular and breathtaking; Interstellar is pure.... intensity and simply magnificent. The important thing about this movie is that you dont need any astrophysics prior watching it, nolan(s) spent 3 seconds explaining wormhole so their story telling ability is serious some top class shit. It is about family love and i cried for so long for different scenes. It is a very exhausting when i walked from the cinema lol. All in all, if you need a line to decide whether you should watch it or not and you don't mind some mild spoiler: + Show Spoiler + It is technically a remake of Armageddon, funnily enough that was from michael bay rofl Pretty pointless to compare to gravity as well because look back of it gravity was all about that visuals really. and chris said that he prevented himself to watch gravity since he was working on this project (that he would watch after he finished this). | ||
Emnjay808
United States10625 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
However, this means that the people of the future was able to survive despite Matt + Ann's character making it or not makes it so that the entire journey through the wormhole, to the planets, and Matt's traveling in the black hole ultimately not necessary. | ||
Coppermantis
United States845 Posts
On November 18 2014 11:41 Xiphos wrote: The idea that Nolan was trying to make everybody understand is that the Tesserac is a machine build by the future mankind in order for Matthew to communicate w/ Jessica's character in the 5th dimension at the exact space to construct the machine in the first place. However, this means that the people of the future was able to survive despite Matt + Ann's character making it or not makes it so that the entire journey through the wormhole, to the planets, and Matt's traveling in the black hole ultimately not necessary. My thoughts: + Show Spoiler + Humanity survives, but is not left in a good state. Probably lots of people died, and the few that survived did so in a broken and battered world, suffering greatly. Eventually they get back on their feet and achieve great science, but wish to use the tesseract to allow their past ancestors to not follow the same route. | ||
SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
I'm pretty sure the idea is that the future can affect the past and paradoxes are possible. The whole idea of his daughters room and the aliens is based on that. Yes, by our logic the wormhole is a paradox, but so is he going back and having an influence on her, or when he touches the other astrounaut in the wormhole, etc. It's not the kind of universe where going back either creates an alternate timeline or where it's impossible to change the past. It's more like a deterministic universe where everything future beings "alter" in the past is part of history. There is no version where the past isn't changed, if something isn't "changed" it simply won't be. So basically the future humans didn't really change the past to save the future, that's just how it happens. In the same way Cooper didn't really change his past in the Tesseract, he just discovered how the past happened. | ||
[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
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ETisME
12083 Posts
Not as good as the prestige imo but it is personal preference. It delivers an amazing magnificent unmatched by any movie in history. The music and the effects blow my mind. Nolan did a lot of nice editing that gives different scenes a totally different atmosphere such as changing the aspect ratio. I might watch it one more time | ||
kwizach
3658 Posts
On November 18 2014 11:41 Xiphos wrote: The idea that Nolan was trying to make everybody understand is that the Tesserac is a machine build by the future mankind in order for Matthew to communicate w/ Jessica's character in the 5th dimension at the exact space to construct the machine in the first place. However, this means that the people of the future was able to survive despite Matt + Ann's character making it or not makes it so that the entire journey through the wormhole, to the planets, and Matt's traveling in the black hole ultimately not necessary. [spoilers ahead] No, I don't think that's correct. The only reason the people of the future exist is that Cooper's journey and sending of the black hole information to Murph was successful. The fact that these future humans helped Cooper achieve this is simply a time paradox in the movie. I enjoyed the movie, although it was a bit heavy-handed at times (especially on the theme of love), but I was hoping for a bit more. Nolan didn't really contribute anything new to the genre (except perhaps the visuals of the "tesseract" at the end). | ||
Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On November 18 2014 12:56 SKC wrote: + Show Spoiler + I'm pretty sure the idea is that the future can affect the past and paradoxes are possible. The whole idea of his daughters room and the aliens is based on that. Yes, by our logic the wormhole is a paradox, but so is he going back and having an influence on her, or when he touches the other astrounaut in the wormhole, etc. It's not the kind of universe where going back either creates an alternate timeline or where it's impossible to change the past. It's more like a deterministic universe where everything future beings "alter" in the past is part of history. There is no version where the past isn't changed, if something isn't "changed" it simply won't be. So basically the future humans didn't really change the past to save the future, that's just how it happens. In the same way Cooper didn't really change his past in the Tesseract, he just discovered how the past happened. The wormhole isn't a paradox, I think you are thinking about the black hole (which I shall get back to that). If you to reach to position Y from position X as quickly as possible, a 3-dimensional fold is certainly one way to do that. The problem is that the wormhole occurring at the exact spot where the mankind wants to be, that's really convenient. Let's get back to the black hole, that's where the "fiction" part of the story came from, or what film critics would call "Deux Ex Machine" for several reasons: + Show Spoiler + 1. It conveniently made Matt's character to arrive at the exact spot where the writer wants him to be to solve the Ghost event in the beginning of the movie so that he can give his daughter the necessary information to render the Earth 5th dimension (which I shall get back to later). 2. The chance that Matthew's character could even survive the gravitational pull of the black hole in order to arrive in the Tesserac in the first place is highly hyperbolic. 3. The result that the other side of the black hole lead Matthew's character to our solar system is a device to save the main character. 4. And even if Matthew's character end up there conveniently, it must be a long time before being rescued, what are the chances of him surviving w/ limited O2 supply and the chances of getting hit by a comet/asteroid before being discovered? I wouldn't bet my money on it. For any people that want to see the movie, it is better to go there shutting off your logical brain in the third act. For the movie to make sense to you, you just have to make sense of its conveniences. In respond to kwizach and Coppermantis' on the 5th dimensional space that the mankind somehow ended up unlocking. This assumes a two things: + Show Spoiler + 1. The people of the 5th dimension doesn't need any food supplies because even though you unlocked another dimension, the other dimensional need to survive is still there. This goes back to the basic science of Law of Conservation of Energy. You still need food to survive. So unless the mankind have fixed the whole dust problems on Earth, they are on another planet. 5th dimensional unlocking doesn't solve hunger problems. 2. So Mathew's character end up going to another planet where the weather isn't as harsh as on Earth. In the film, they mentioned "Cooper Station". Could this station be on Earth depends on whether or not the Earth scientists have solved the weather problem or not. This means that regardless of whether Matthew + Hathaway's character making it not, the mankind will eventually find another mean which makes our emotional investment to be futile. | ||
SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + The wormhole is a paradox because it was created by the evolved humans in the future to save the humans in the past. It wasn't a random natural occurance. And they not only created the wormhole, they were actually interacting with NASA and sending some limited information through the wormhole, NASA just thought they were aliens. Cooper Station is also explicitly shown not being on earth. Cooper even steals a spaceship and flies off into space. It seems to be the ship/one of the ships the humanity takes to leave Earth behind. | ||
kwizach
3658 Posts
On November 19 2014 00:23 Xiphos wrote: In respond to kwizach and Coppermantis' on the 5th dimensional space that the mankind somehow ended up unlocking. This assumes a two things: 1. The people of the 5th dimension doesn't need any food supplies because even though you unlocked another dimension, the other dimensional need to survive is still there. This goes back to the basic science of Law of Conservation of Energy. You still need food to survive. So unless the mankind have fixed the whole dust problems on Earth, they are on another planet. 5th dimensional unlocking doesn't solve hunger problems. 2. So Mathew's character end up going to another planet where the weather isn't as harsh as on Earth. In the film, they mentioned "Cooper Station". Could this station be on Earth depends on whether or not the Earth scientists have solved the weather problem or not. This means that regardless of whether Matthew + Hathaway's character making it not, the mankind will eventually find another mean which makes our emotional investment to be futile. [spoilers ahead] The reason mankind is fine when Cooper wakes up in the hospital at the end of the movie is that his daughter managed to unlock the time/space equation thanks to the data Cooper sent up through the tesseract (and into the old watch). Solving the equation granted mankind mastery over the force of gravity, thus allowing it to control ecosystems in such a way as to insure that the hunger problem was solved. Cooper's journey is therefore not useless at all - it is thanks to Cooper that his daughter received the data which allowed her to solve the equation and save mankind. | ||
LostWraithSC
United States111 Posts
On November 18 2014 12:56 SKC wrote: + Show Spoiler + I'm pretty sure the idea is that the future can affect the past and paradoxes are possible. The whole idea of his daughters room and the aliens is based on that. Yes, by our logic the wormhole is a paradox, but so is he going back and having an influence on her, or when he touches the other astrounaut in the wormhole, etc. It's not the kind of universe where going back either creates an alternate timeline or where it's impossible to change the past. It's more like a deterministic universe where everything future beings "alter" in the past is part of history. There is no version where the past isn't changed, if something isn't "changed" it simply won't be. So basically the future humans didn't really change the past to save the future, that's just how it happens. In the same way Cooper didn't really change his past in the Tesseract, he just discovered how the past happened. + Show Spoiler + This guys gets it. The movie presents a deterministic universe, where time is a dimension that can be traversed in the future just like space is now for us. There is no causality in such a world. | ||
c0ldfusion
United States8292 Posts
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c0ldfusion
United States8292 Posts
On November 18 2014 10:38 BurningSera wrote: Well i didnt bother to open a thread on this, my review on my blog already up. Long story short, this is defo not the best work from Nolan(s) but it has to be the most emotional work from him/them. I am a big fan of chris so i watched it on the 2nd day when it came out. Gravity maybe was spectacular and breathtaking; Interstellar is pure.... intensity and simply magnificent. The important thing about this movie is that you dont need any astrophysics prior watching it, nolan(s) spent 3 seconds explaining wormhole so their story telling ability is serious some top class shit. It is about family love and i cried for so long for different scenes. It is a very exhausting when i walked from the cinema lol. All in all, if you need a line to decide whether you should watch it or not and you don't mind some mild spoiler: + Show Spoiler + It is technically a remake of Armageddon, funnily enough that was from michael bay rofl Pretty pointless to compare to gravity as well because look back of it gravity was all about that visuals really. and chris said that he prevented himself to watch gravity since he was working on this project (that he would watch after he finished this). You cried watching this? I honestly don't get why Nolan even spends any time on this human interest stuff. It's not his strong suit. | ||
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